Don't get busted reverse domain hijacking. That's a precedence you don't want to set so early.

Do you really need to be such an ass to him? There is no need for Twisty's to try and take his site. Like someone pointed out Shap owns a lot of copyright infriging names. I would like to see LightSpeed come after you.

As i posted earlier on our position let Steve hit us up about it.

tube.com trademark is going to go after sextube and youtube

So your position is, it's OK if Shap does it. It's BAD if anyone else does it.

Ok. I will send him the link to this thread. I am sure he will hit you up about it. :winkwink:

No, what's stupid is your inability to formulate an intelligent response to my statement.

let we see exposed how hungarians sue a company for a few millions of bucks

yeah who keep alive the puretna where all of the youporn contents come from

expose?

I am sorry why am I being and ass? he owns a trademarked domain that he built illegally with stolen content and using our trademark? We sent a letter asking him to turn it over, thats his problem, if Steve would like his domain back thats up to him, and if he has the trademark we would by law have to turn it over wouldn't we.

i do, i have legal documents, also i have top lawyers.. money speak you know...

SHAP... yo make 100k per month of profit...

I can't believe that your LAWYER SUCKS SO MUCH DUDE... LOL...

Are there no real lawyers in bahamas or what???

He don't even know the law... LOL....

just checked out http://www.hardsextube.com, it's a pretty big site according to alexa...if i were shap i'd try to take the domain away as well :1orglaugh

Not bad good business.

how can you say this when you run tube sites? come on now...

if hardsextube.com was there before sextube.com as the guy from hungary claims he has nothing to fear anyway....

We sure got a lot of snow here in NY. It's crazy how it just keeps coming down. Like an unending cascade.

:1orglaugh Can I pay you in beer then ?

Check ours for any stolen content we are 100% legit, and always have been even when people called us out no one found a single link that had illegal content instead we advertise the sites completely, by surrounding their videos with contextual ads.

We police every video on our sites and check with the users who do submit to double check the age and verification of the videos. We also invite sponsors to submit and work closely with many to make sure their videos get the most clicks and sales we make money 100% as affiliate based tubes.

If hardsextube.com needs to find a great lawyer to defend his position with ICANN, contact me. I'd be glad to help. Any domain owners with generic domains need to make sure their domain rights are protected against reverse domain hijackers.

it was not

How is that good business? You are doing the same exact thing that you are going after other people for. :2 cents:

I don't claim to be a trademark lawyer, but from what I have heard / been told, if you know of a site infringing on your trademark, and don't take action, you could potentially lose your mark.

So I don't think it has anything to do with "abusing a policy", but I think it has everything to do with protecting their mark.

if hardsextube.com had an alexa rank of 5 million would you guys still be going through all of this?

Registration date and even trademark date isn't as important as USAGE.

"What are common law rights?

Federal registration is not required to establish rights in a trademark. Common law rights arise from actual use of a mark."

Arguably, since "tube" isn't yet technically considered a generic term referring to a website with videos on it, YouTube could have the jump on all sites with "tube" in them that are operating a similar style video site because such sites are piggybacking on the popularity of YouTube, which has had common law trademark rights since its first usage of YouTube as a video site. From the looks of things, SexTube was still under construction in at least part of 2006 while YouTube was very much in use as a video site.

All that said, given SexTube's usage began before HardSexTube and they are trademarked, they probably will win. But if I were them or any other tube site with "tube" or possibly even "you" in the name, I would not be surprised if sometime in the future, YouTube knocks on their door. Google has bullied others out of their domains/sites before and will gladly do it again with their ridiculous amount of lawyers/money.

What I don't get are people that support copyright infringement but not trademark infringement or vice versa. I don't think Shap would look bad at all in this thread if he wasn't supporting tube sites with stolen content or had typo domains. There's a difference between protecting your trademark/wanting law upheld and thinking law should only apply to you when you can benefit from it and not when you're breaking it or supporting those that break it. You can do whatever you want, but don't be surprised when others don't take kindly to it.

Then why didn't your respond with the legal documents instead of having your friend post here?

actually sextube was first registered in 1998 :2 cents:

problem you guys have is that sextube was never a "tube" site until just recently (past 6 mos or so), so you might have a hard time in court :2 cents:

If Steve didn't know about it or any other names that you guys own have trademarks in them it's still trademark infringement. The law isn't broken if you refuse to hand it over it's broken when you used someone elses trademark to make money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_infringement

"Trademark infringement is a violation of the exclusive rights attaching to a trademark without the authorization of the trademark owner or any licensees (provided that such authorization was within the scope of the license)."

We already are, we have hardsextube.ca which was already turned over, and are continuing to go after the others as I post this.

Correct - that's why sometimes even when names are turned over, the owners are then sued for damages, legal fees, etc. They were breaking the law the moment they infringed on the trademark.

Good luck. You are going to lose affiliates over this. Funny that you are going after people, but you are doing the exact same thing. Which in turn means someone will come and sue you.

Funny thing on that I have had more people hit me up today because of this thread so thats why i keep bumping it, I really don't care what people think, its making me money the more this stays at the top, and in the end we will get the domain, I dont really put faith in GFY legal opinions I pay lawyers for their opinions.

BTW thanks for everyone hitting the site, looks like best day ever on http://www.sextube.com keep it up.

Yeah, it`s the time of crisis. Low-lives will do everything to make a buck. Some of them hit surfers with hidden prechecked crossales, others steal content and others steal domains.

I just dropped all Twistys links, good day

I think almost everyone here bitching about trademark law really does not understand it very well. Go read up on it for about 10 minutes and you will count the people who know what they are talking about on one hand in this thread.

I thought somebody was quoted in some other thread about how the affiliate model is on its last legs and priorities are moving to other business models that will cut out the affiliates completely?

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/810316-gaytube-com.html yup always lol

Yep....:pimp

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QUOTE=wjxxx;15573202]Yeah, it`s the time of crisis. Low-lives will do everything to make a buck. Some of them hit surfers with hidden prechecked crossales, others steal content and others steal domains.

I just dropped all Twistys links, good day[/QUOTE]


I dropped them too. If a lot of affiliates drop them then maybe that will teach them a lesson. This needs to be posted on all of the adult forums so everyone can see that Michael thinks it is ok to go after people while doing the same thing. :2 cents: