It has nothing to do with Bush. You insist on making a statement about his race and to me that makes you come off like an idiot. If you hate him because he is black - which is exactly what I take that statement to mean - then it removes some of the credibility of your other statements.

It is kind of like saying, "That guy really can pitch. . . for a black dude." It makes it seem like the reason he is doing what he is doing is because he is black. It just makes you come off as ignorant. That is all.

I'm just saying that calling people socialists for wanting universal health care is hypocritical. If you like having a police and fire department, you're a socialist. If you like having roads you're a socialist. If you like having schools, parks, and a military then you fall in line with socialism. We are a socialist country. Always have been and always will be.

Ok so in the midst of the greatest economic crisis the world has seen Obama decides to pass a half socialist/half debt deferred to taxpayer bill? :error:error:error:error

He is taking action, but not on the right things at all. Stress test will only make banks horde cash, you think they are going to lend while the government has them under a microscope? Worst idea ever. You expect capitalists who are competing against each other to act equal? They are gonna all try to pass the tests and I bet the administration comes out of this with not a fucking clue as to which ones they should save.

I know exactly where the money comes from. The question was will universal health care help the economy. I said it could. I didn't say it wouldn't cost money, but it could do a little help. The potential benefits of a universal health care plan are far and wide, just as are the potential problems with it if it is done poorly.

So would it help stimulate the economy? Maybe. At what cost? Who knows.

I guess we will see. The guy has been in office for 30 days. I don't think he is a messiah. I don't agree with everything he has done. In the end there are a ton of economist who say his plan will help. There are also a ton of economist who say it will not. Only time will tell.

As for the banks, again, I said before taking some time to look at the banks and make the right choice is not a terrible thing.

the "I know you are, but what am I?" defense.

Brilliant.

Semantics my friend semantics. Obviously Canada is more socialist than America. There is no doubt of that. America is the king of Capitalism, and there is no doubt of that.

I wouldn't go that far yet. I believe this is the year we pass them up for percent of GDP spent. And if the Kings of Capitalism just nationalized most of the banking, mortgage, investment, and insurance industry, I'd hate to see what the Queen is doing.

Splum, it's okay to get out of the closet and see the light. You won't be chastised for being Rush Limbaughs little cocksucking bitch.

You won't win any SEO awards by combining words like "cocksucking". :error:error:error

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lol, good luck

you do realize that there's NO ONE in the world that can fix all the problems in the US just like that, right? I don't care if Obama said he will try shit to fix thing. He never said "I will fix shit as soon as I'm in office and life will be like heaven"

I don't care who the new president was. It would not help shit and especially not quickly IF it did. Seems that you're blaming the new president for the dow dropping... again.. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but that started way before Barrack was president.

Things are only going to get worse mark my words.

Yes as long as monkey boy is running the show we are fucked.

This is all Obama's fault, he's the reason why the banks collapsed and the Dow closed at levels that haven't been seen since 1997. If McCain was elected there would be no recession and the Dow will be at record highs.

I just spot checked this thread... but, have any of you thought about shorting the market?

29 dow lost 90 percent of it's value... we are at half right now. There is some money to be made...

Correction, the markets have gone into the toilet since Obama was officially nominated.

The markets knew what was coming.

What the current administration fails to recognize is that every time they distribute money the market tanks further.

Lastly, who has held control of both houses for the last two years? Bush was a lame duck starting two years ago. Are you so fickle that you forgot who swept into power in 2006 + 2008?

The mid-term elections in 2010 will be quite interesting... if the country does not fall into complete civil unrest by then.

The only positive note, is that the people born from 1980 forward are going to get a big heaping dish of what it was like to live under FDR and Jimmy Carter. Enjoy.

Got ammo?

Your initial statement is probably correct... as McCain rolled over and went back to Washington to vote for the initial bailouts.

The problem, long term, is foundation differences between the left and right on how these issues can be resolved. I am of the belief everything they are doing now will only make the situation worse... as was done during the depression (the first one) and in Japan (90's forward).

The politicians in this country hate pain and assume the people of this country hate pain... so they will take the band-aid/kick the can attitude which will only main this more painful. I would take 2 years a carnage then decades of wondering "why ain't this shit working".

We will never address the root causes so we are patching the Titanic until it all implodes. The time bombs planted during the first depression are all going to explode in the coming years. The time bombs they are planting now will explode quicker than expect.

The entire system, thanks to Lincoln, FDR, Wilson, and every other shitty president this country has had - is doomed to fail. You can not have a strong centralized government robbing the earners and spreading it to other parts of the nation... long term. Balkanization is an option and an option that might gain traction if things really fall apart. During boom times business/social relationships ignore issues... During blow ups people go primal and survival is the motivation.

Sales are through the roof yo!

WOOHOO!

the stock market had a drop below 7000 back in 97.

this didn't happen overnight you fucking idiot :1orglaugh

Only one policy? I could write a book on why we are where we are at.

Your entire comment assumes that all of our problems occurred in the last 8 years and everything up until 2000 was great.

Your blind party devotion is exactly what the machine needs to survive. Us against them, and completely ignore the facts... or not bother to review history.

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why not write on my blog?? It's a good cause brother and this topic seems appropriate as well.

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That about sums it up for you. :2 cents:

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it was "nut to butt" at costco ... :1orglaugh

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Yes investors really seem to be loving what he is doing. Most of his speeches on the economy where he makes a statement pointing towards a course of action ... the lemmings cry because their Jesus spoke, and the investors get the fuck out of the stock market because they feel a fool is in charge. If the people with money had any confidence in what he promises then they wouldn't be jumping ship after each of his pretty speeches.

LOL you are just a middle man making money off of other people. What "sales" are you talking about? Desperate webmasters trying to regain traffic because they are losing money? LOL

:2 cents: :thumbsup

That is pretty much spot on.

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Should have been builing stuff instead of sending almost all manufacturing over seas.:2 cents:

Good luck dow!

he is partying it up at the White... err I mean Black House.

So we finally get to the bottom of this!!!!! It all comes down to hate in the end....... All of your arguements are moot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:321GFY

He cant fix thing in a minute....he'll need time to start doing that

The countries who perform the most aggressive actions to get out of this mess are going to be the ones who end up stronger than ever. So this situation is extremely dangerous to those countries currently at the top.

The Republican plan is to essentially do nothing about this. Just let the free marketplace take it's course, allow huge companies to fail and hope that something great rises out of the ashes after a depression.

I don't like what we've done, but it was a necessary evil. The Republican alternative is just nuts.


The only reason why the Republicans didn't support the bailouts at all is because if the economy turns around in 2010, that would look like the Republicans endorsed the Dems. And with mid-term elections in 2010 they can't have that. At this point their only hope is for the economy to continue to fail though 2010 so that they can pick up seats on the claim that they were against failed bailouts.

Your out of your fucking mind bro. Regardless of Obama being good or not. He has not enough time yet. Anything you see now is a result of Bush. Talk to us when Obama gets eight years under his belt.....douche bag. :) I bet you could do a better job with the fucking mess Bush left us???!!! Douche

I don't think that's the Republican plan. They've made it clear in the past year or so that their plan is capitalism for profits and socialism for losses in the business sector.

Put down the haterade and grab a bottle of hope-erade.

We just have to ride out the storm, stay liquid, be careful and conscious of all investments, and don't panic...it's a nightmare now but we're all in the same boat.

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good ole repuk comeback ...

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Seems like Splum has a gay side to him .... aside from the idiot one.

and things were so much better when you had Bush running the show? Thanx to him your country is seriously fucked up and now the new president is stuck trying to fix all of it. White, black, red, green or whatever color the president is NO ONE can fix all that shit quickly. It will take many years for everything to get back to normal or somewhat normal.