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Splum 03-05-2009 12:19 PM

You have a lot of faith in a market that is completely revolting against the current American administration. The cash will stay on the sidelines for years just like it did during the depression, because make no mistake about it, this IS a depression.

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 15587709)
There is so much money on the sidelines right now from all the selling that when it does come back in it's going to be faster then a lot of people think. Many won't be able to get in fast enough for the bottom they are waiting for. Now is a good time to buy as long as it's diversified. ETFs and index mutual funds.


baddog 03-05-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15579065)
yep that poor warren buffet

Did the word "most" slip by unnoticed?

Magnus 03-05-2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15587589)
I just took a look at some of the "sin stock" and I believe you are either a) full of shit or b) some kind of penny stock trader
Are you telling me you sell short ETFs in a market like this AND make money? :1orglaugh

Yes and for as long as your economy is in the shitter..I will continue to do so.

Splum 03-05-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnus (Post 15587866)
Yes and for as long as your economy is in the shitter..I will continue to do so.

Nice of a representative of GTS ads to make money off the American peoples demise, I am sure your customers appreciate the anal fucking.

Penthouse Tony 03-05-2009 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15587743)
You have a lot of faith in a market that is completely revolting against the current American administration. The cash will stay on the sidelines for years just like it did during the depression, because make no mistake about it, this IS a depression.

Yup I do have faith. Look at the Wilshire 5000
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^DWC&t=6m

We are at the same place we were in November's low. But with the way the media has been covering the market (focusing more on the DOW) it sounds worse. The Dow Jones Industrial average is outdated and under represents our industries. There are only 30 stocks in there.

tranza 03-05-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by james_clickmemedia (Post 15580473)
He has a good point.

very good point...

Magnus 03-05-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15587881)
Nice of a representative of GTS ads to make money off the American peoples demise, I am sure your customers appreciate the anal fucking.

Read some news about other Countries now and then and you will know that Canada is not doing much better, nor is the the rest of the world, so yes I am making money from ALL our shitty economies too. When the markets go the strategies will change, better then sitting around crying foul on the boards.

WTF does being at GTS and the world markets have to do with anything?

Splum 03-05-2009 12:52 PM

Actually Sagi you are BELOW Novembers bottom, I cant believe you dont see the complete wealth destruction across all indexes. Look at a comparison chart betwenn the S&P and Wilshire. This is carnage and it isnt stopping, sure you may have a couple small rallys but the overall trend is absolutely sickening.
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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 15587929)
Yup I do have faith. Look at the Wilshire 5000
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^DWC&t=6m

We are at the same place we were in November's low. But with the way the media has been covering the market (focusing more on the DOW) it sounds worse. The Dow Jones Industrial average is outdated and under represents our industries. There are only 30 stocks in there.


Splum 03-05-2009 12:56 PM

The point is a President making a blanket statement that now is a good time to buy stocks when he knows damn well they will lose money is completely irresponsible and borderline criminal. I understand you dont want him talking about how bad it is, but dont give bad advice. The President of the United States isnt some TV analyst, his words are completely parsed and taken literally.
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Originally Posted by Magnus (Post 15587940)
Read some news about other Countries now and then and you will know that Canada is not doing much better, nor is the the rest of the world, so yes I am making money from ALL our shitty economies too. When the markets go the strategies will change, better then sitting around crying foul on the boards.


Reak AGV 03-05-2009 12:57 PM

Since the president of the USA says so. I'm now a stock broker :)

Penthouse Tony 03-05-2009 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15587962)
Actually Sagi you are BELOW Novembers bottom, I cant believe you dont see the complete wealth destruction across all indexes. Look at a comparison chart betwenn the S&P and Wilshire. This is carnage and it isnt stopping, sure you may have a couple small rallys but the overall trend is absolutely sickening.

Why would you compare the S&P to the Wilshire? The S&P is included in the Wilshire. And yes we are below November a little. But all the panic and media coverage from the past month would lead you to believe shit was way worse.

Ethersync 03-05-2009 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15580318)
Obama should send everyone bailout money to buy stocks with.

Give every American a $10,000 investment account to buy stocks with. We can buy, sell, short, etc... but can not cash out for at least 10-15 years. That would make things interesting... :)

Splum 03-05-2009 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 15588006)
Why would you compare the S&P to the Wilshire? The S&P is included in the Wilshire. And yes we are below November a little. But all the panic and media coverage from the past month would lead you to believe shit was way worse.

Use any index, combined or not, it doesnt matter across the board they are the same basic trend.
This isnt media hype this is REAL wealth destruction. People across America(not just Wall street) have lost so much money most will never trust that system again, or at least for a long time. Most of the companies you invest in now for the long term will not even be around in their current form in 10 years and if you are selling short you better be on your toes.

SlammedMedia 03-05-2009 01:14 PM

now is the time to buy real estate, stocks, etc. long term ... why would you think it wouldn't be?

Magnus 03-05-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15587994)
The point is a President making a blanket statement that now is a good time to buy stocks when he knows damn well they will lose money is completely irresponsible and borderline criminal. I understand you dont want him talking about how bad it is, but dont give bad advice. The President of the United States isnt some TV analyst, his words are completely parsed and taken literally.


Welll I agree with you there is was a poorly thought out blanket statment especially to those who don't invest or even have the money to invest.
We had a bozo minister in Ontario a few years back say on the news that poor people on welfare should buy canned tuna fish cuz it's always on special VS offereing job or education strategies.

Penthouse Tony 03-05-2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15588104)
Use any index, combined or not, it doesnt matter across the board they are the same basic trend.
This isnt media hype this is REAL wealth destruction. People across America(not just Wall street) have lost so much money most will never trust that system again, or at least for a long time. Most of the companies you invest in now for the long term will not even be around in their current form in 10 years and if you are selling short you better be on your toes.

Right and people won't ever run huge debt on their credit cards or buy more house then they can afford. Everyone learned their lessons. :upsidedow

Splum 03-05-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 15588693)
Right and people won't ever run huge debt on their credit cards or buy more house then they can afford. Everyone learned their lessons. :upsidedow

I only wish this were true, unfortunately what will happen is people will turn towards more socialism. You have several generations of fat lazy selfish ignorant Americans playing victim and wanting everything handed to them now. Obama will give it to them, or what he can.

TheStout 03-05-2009 03:36 PM



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