Wow I thought you were smarter then that. Do you have trouble reading? Read my previous post. If you still don't get it ask a friend to explain it to you. If you have a question email me and we can discuss. I'm done answering questions on gfy.

sounds like you are letting it bug you man, you are lashing out at everyone who has an opinion. Seems kinda silly to me. Who cares how rich you are.. i have opions about bill gates too, i'm sure you have opinions about people richer than you too. you "might" make 30 times more than me but i betcha bill gates makes much more than 30 times what you make :winkwink:

Imagine how silly anyone would sound saying " I make 30 times what you do therefor i am obviously always right and nobody can have an opinion because i am so rich "

but hey what do i care i might make more than you do in a month every day and then that would make everything you say useless and wrong:winkwink:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Like I said if you want to have a man to man chat email me. If not you are just trying to stir up shit and waste my time.

dude chill out before i turn twistys into a scrap yard lol i was still writing the previous post so i didnt see your post because some of us aren't smoking meth to post so fucking fast. :winkwink:

I started making that post then went away from the computer and came back , i didnt realise the thread was moving so fast or that you had responded.

And I'm sure hard work is what made you what you are today. Not a shitload of capital to get started.

i am thinking of just buying a gun and jacking domains at gunpoint...

I'm sure you can understand I'm through being patient or nice to people that I don't know or don't do business with. This thread, last thread, the other thread. It's just retarded. No matter what I say people find something to cry about. So I'm done being nice. The serious people will email me. I'm open to talking to anyone and doing business. I'm still the same person I ever was. Except I'm just not going to have any tolerance for the retards on here.

reserving my sig spot. jezz

That's exactly right. I started without a dime while I was in university. Started by submitting free sites to pk. Then with circle jerk sites. Then tgps. Then Twistys. My wife and I worked 16 to 20 hour days. We'd work all night. Sleep from 11am til about 1pm. And wake up and do it all over. I put every single ounce of energy I had in my body to building up my company to what it is today. I've always lived way below my means. Re-invested a lot back into the business and saved what wasn't re-invested. Nothing that we have came easy. We built Twistys up on matrix content and today it is bigger than Penthouse and rivals Playboy.

This is what pr reps are for heh , you hate when they respond but the drama ends so quickly.

PR RESPONSE ( by smokey)

This issue is complicated , when you run a successfull online business you run into issues like trademarks, there are many "trademark sharks" that will take advantage of businesses who ignore things like "protecting your trademark" when twisty's originally filed for trademark , we did so because a "trademark shark" tried trademarking our site name sextube of sextube.com We did this to "protect our investment" , part of "protecting a trademark" is enforcing cases of infrignement, this simply cant be done on a case by case basis. in order to "protect your trademark" it is essential you don't selectively enforce the rules or you can jeopordize your trademark and risk losing it. While we at twisty's welcome the competition and would hate to see an innocent site with no ill intentions bear the brunt of our trademark enforcemnt , we cant risk losing our trademark to be "fair". We will try to work with hardsextube.com to come with a fair solution without risking our trademark.

twistys pr

Well then my hats off to you. You deserve all the success you have achieved. Although you should keep in mind that many others have done similar things and never hit the big time. I wouldn't say that makes them worthless.

Thank you.

What makes them worthless is sitting on gfy all day looking for shit to start. Not having the balls to say who they are or what they run. Hiding behind a nick that protects their identity. That is what makes them worthless.

Anybody who is busting there ass working hard trying to make a living. I have 100% respect for and I'm always willing to help out in anyway I can.

Calling people nobodies who think what you're doing is unethical... is really bad.

I"m not a nobody... I"m someone with a few shreds of business ethics left inside of myself... and I think that if you go after everyone who is a keywordsextube.com ... you're being a dick...

You've turned into a corporate sized beast...

I know plenty of people who wouldn't even think to see if it's trademarked or CARE what's on sextube.com ... they'd buy theirnichesextube.com .... and not even think twice.. and run an honest business that has zero to do with you..

And I think if you go after all of them.. that makes you an asshole...

But calling people nobodies for having a personal opinion on the issue is uncalled for.

Not all of us are in millionaire status with lawyers waiting at the helm.. but we do work 24/7 just the same.

YOu don't think it's because you've became "corporate" and have an air of "fuck the little man" about your posts more recently?

You don't think that plays any part of it?

I mean.. I'm sure there are dickheads who post a ton who are real assholes..

But there are also just regular ol' porno webmasters.. who don't get into the drama or backstory.. who stop and read what you write.. and are like. WTF...

What you're saying may be spot on for the true, idiot, assholes to read...

But you have to own that a few people came at you.. are coming at you.. because your words are very reminiscent of corporate spinning and bullshit.

Like you've forgot where you've came from.. except when you want to remind people of your hard work.

As an outsider who doesn't do shows.. who doesn't chat with anyone... who just works and reads GFY.. I can tell you that reading the way you handled shit a YEAR ago.. and reading the way you handle it now.. two very different things on different offensive/assholish levels.

Like I said. The nobodies are the guys who sit on gfy all day and do nothing but post retarded shit and wait for drama. Those are 100% nobodies. They have no traffic. They have no business. They have no clue.

I understand your thoughts. Which is why (Like I said in an earlier post) we've decided to get another opinion and talk to someone who knows more about domain disputes than just about anyone. Our goal has always been to protect SexTube.com and to protect our Trademark "SexTube". We aren't out to ruin people's sites or lives we are just going to protect what is ours.

Cool so you made more money then all of us yesterday, yet you still feel the need to take shitty little domains/sites with the words gaytube & sextube in them. Are you just sooo baller that you dont want to steal traffic generated by these sites that just type in "sex tube" when looking for similar sites?

Every time someone builds another sextube or gaytube that that makes that many more surfers looking for these terms... terms that people have been searching for well before you put your sites together.

Are you simply afraid that by not enforcing your TM, someone will just take sextube.com? This would never happen, unless Google showed up, but Google can take just down about any internet company now if they feel like it.

I've been on gfy for over 3 years and managed barely over 700 posts, yet did 25-35 yesterday just because I own domains. You aren't trying to "steal" other peoples domains like SexTube, you are trying to "protect your interests". But both of these outcomes you want to be the same.

I totally understand that. Just so you know I'm the idiot big program owner that addresses GFY. Ask anyone. That's who I am. It's retarded. The other program owners ignore everyone here. They laugh and how useless the people on gfy are. I'm just being honest. That's not a knock it's the truth. Do you think Brazzers gives a shit about GFY? LOL. They've grown to the biggest program in our industry. What do they care what any of you think. They wipe their ass with gold nuggets what gfy thinks means nothing to them.

I've always been open and always tried to keep that connection with all webmasters regardless of size. I've admitted when I'm wrong. I've explained why I made the decisions I did. I didn't have to do that but I did. No matter what I do or say we still get attacked. The bigger we get the more we get attacked. So over the past year with every attack I've become less and less tolerant. You can say I've become more of a dick or asshole. It's probably because every time we are hit with drama I realize how much time it takes up, how much energy it drains from me and how absolutely insignificant it is to our bottomline. It changes nothing. Traffic, sales and business are as usual this week. I haven't lost a single hit, lost a single sale, lost a single anything. Yet I've been exhausted and stressed out of my mind trying to make this situation right. Today it just hit me. Fuck it. Fuck trying to make it right. The only thing I'm going to do is make as much money as I possibly can. That is why I'm in this business. To get as rich as I possibly can. Then retire and live life like I never dreamed I would.

You are facing no threats to gaytube or sextube. You keep behaving like there is some vast conspiracy to steal your domains Shap, yet it is YOU who is trying to steal our domains

If you ever met me you'd know I'm not the type of guy to steal something from someone else. I built my empire from the ground up and I don't plan on changing that any time soon. I'm just looking to protect my entities.

Do you have any sextube domains? Is that why you are so worried?

I'm just pissed I cant reg any tube domains with sex or gay in them.

Email me. Let's discuss.

Also, that is just the beginning... first sextube & gaytube... then whats next? The pornotube.com guys? the porntube guys? the freeporn.com guys? every freakin domain that isn't lksjdfs.com? Its the principle of what is happening I have a problem with, it sets a standard.

Just like the first cross sale is fine, the second cross sale is fine, and then some jack ass starts hiding xsales on joins forms... then guys just start running lists of CCs

You have to expect anyone with a Trademark will look to enforce it. So check before you register a domain. If they have a trademark try to find out who they are and email them. At least you are doing your part to avoid any problems.

AlienQ 2.0?

That's our industry. You always have to look out for yourself because no one else is.

Shap my brotha' - you can't explain shit to people who don't want to listen and at least "try" to understand. The more successful you get, the more haters will come out of the woodwork to try and destroy you. Why? Because your relevant, because your successful and because they are jealous not to be in your shoes. Don't let them get to ya' man......that's what you used to say to me when my jealous haters would attack me over silly bullshit. So I'm tell'n ya....don't let them get to ya'. Turn off the computer and go play with your little boy and enjoy some of your success :winkwink:

By the way - I shot Ryan Keely for you today - the video is hot, hot fugg'n hot! It's going out tomorrow for Friday delivery! :thumbsup

Once again, generic terms... I don't know how trademark offices work, but as google trends shows it was an accepted term for "porn videos" well before the trademark went through. But I'm off, 'night

are they going after these too?

yousextube.com
firstsextube.com
enjoysextube.com
thesextubesite.com
naughtysextube.com
sextube-video.com
thefreesextube.com
asextube.com
homemadesextube.com
momsextube.com
newsextube.org
sextubedirectory.com
grannysextube.net
onesextube.com
maturesextube.net
flashsextube.com
hornysextube.com


There's thousands of registered domains and active websites with sextube in the url.. :2 cents:

If this was about protecting a mark, why aren't they going after sextube.org? Maybe because it has no rank, serp, alexa or traffic? :2 cents:

What about sextube.biz ? :2 cents:

How about going after the tens of thousands of torrent pages with sextube as the pages title and meta description not to mention several thousands of scraper pages with sextube in it, or the millions of urls with sextube.com in the url such as somedomain.com/dir/dir/sextube or somedomain.com/dir/dir/sextube.com

Im not much for conspiracy theories.

Typically people that stick to honest business practices tend to not be fucked with much. It's normally when people like your self or 12clicks do things that are shady and hence earn the "fucking with" they get.

Only "you" are to blame for what you are doing no one else. You seemed to keep things honest for several years and seemed like you made pretty good money doing it. Yet in this last year or you have turned to shit supporting illegal tubes sites and now trying to steal others websites.

I hope the extra money you have made is worth it, but that damn greed is a bitch isn't it?

woah
the shap attack

I have 1 and Im not giving it up. I registered it before I knew Shap was on a quest to own every domain that contains sextube in them

I'm sorry, I'm all for you protecting your TM but you can't say this when you have alternative billing options on your join pages.

Those are all tracked it just runs the cascade or to another biller that you get credit for, if you don't understand how NATS or billers work please send an email to support at toomuchmedia.com they can tell you that all billers we use are integrated just like any other nats client.

Ryan Keely is hot :thumbsup

Unless this has changed in the past 3-4 months please pass this on to your support reps. This was brought up with one of them some time back.

Are you saying that NATS tracks the GXPlugin telephone billing option and the 'snail mail' option now?

Nats is tracking all gxbill sales.

Mail in accounts for <1% of sales. It is not accounted for.