Nice site man, I've seen your shit around... reminds me of mine. There's nothing like the amateur girl next door. I run sweetcuties btw, among others :thumbsup

All of my content is shot in the state of Florida.

Hi Mutt, people here just don't see how it works in favor of the guy who can afford to pay top dollar. You nailed it. :thumbsup

To create a level playing field with models payments you have to convince the high payers that it's in the benefit to pay low. Good luck with that.

Saving a few hundred dollars on a model is not going to help at all. In fact it could harm them.

I can relate to where you are coming from but for someone such as myself who specializes in shooting very amateur girls....those particular types of girls are exclusive no matter how much or how little they get paid. 95% of the girls on my site were approached by myself in public locations so they have absolutely no experience with the adult industry whatsoever. No reason to pay top dollar to a bunch of amateur girls with no experience...but it works for me because that's the type of site that I specialize in running.

Believe me, I can afford to pay big $$$ for models but I am not going to pay some random amateur girl $500 when she is just some amateur girl off the street.

This thread shows on the the main reasons that Adult online has soooo many problems.

Sooooo true.

I phoned the boss of Vivid over here in Europe and told him he was over paying the girls and it meant I had to pay the same to get the same models.

He just does not get it, he said he was going to pay the girls more. :1orglaugh

I hear what you're saying as well. If you can find all the girls you need by walking up to them in the street and paying them $50 for a BJ then good on you. Never had that much luck. The girls here today know about porn and know what it pays. They don't hear about the $50 jobs, only the $500 ones.

You must recruit in a very remote part of Florida.

There's a lot of truth in this thread

Most of the girls that I shoot are from the Tampa area so it's not a very remote area at all. A few of the producers that I know (that shoot in the same area) pay around $100 for bj scenes....and there have been a few times when I have paid that amount too but on many occassions, the girls were fine with making $50 for participating in a very short and photo based bj scene. I think $100 is a fair rate to pay but anything over $200 for a 20 minute bj scene from a very amateur girl is too much in my opinion. But again, I am talking about amateur girls. Not girls that have established a well known name for themselves in the industry.

ahmmm.. craigslist adds do not constitute the cost levels of the industry..

i shoot in LA, and not even agent quote that high for a bj scene unless it is a "name" model like shyla stylez etc..
and btw most those models will not come on set just for a bj scene anyways.

People are DUMB.....they cry and whine about girls getting their asses kissed in la la land and getting those overinflated "LA" rates....well if your not in LA....tell them just that.....something is better then NOTHING...if they want to stick to their guns then they will end up with NOTHING!

there are always going to be guys overpaying.....unless you dimwits form a cartel (see OPEC)....you will never have that power........it would also be in your best interest to have something besides the FSC...to do your bidding on Capitol Hill....some type of PAC for fuck sakes.....porn makes BILLIONS of dollars per year but naturally everyone wants to be greedy and tightwad.....


suppose you could run a company into the ground get the govnt to help you X4 and still give away $$$ in bonus to people that have robbed the american taxpayer....

oh shit you can.....but you cheapos wont pony up the cash.........you selfish pricks....:disgust

I think this is the part where someone says....


Supply and Demand? :2 cents:



that being said, who the fuck pays 500 for a blowjob scene? if she wants 500 bucks to suck pole, thats a polite way of saying 'I dont want to shoot with you...'

chicks should pay me to have the honor of blowing me

whats the going rate of video fo me beating off on camera

Juicy babe.....its the same as on the mastercard comm....."priceless"! :winkwink:

Actually, its mostly sugar (carbs) :Oh crap

Dont tell the girls that!

I?m not saying Jane is wrong?..but as they said in the last pres campaign?..something along the lines of you can put lipstick on a pig?..but its still?..a pig. In whatever way you sell your body you will be considered a WHORE by some?.that is the path the walk on and that is how they call it?..some girls get off on it?..so to each their own?.


Danza?.you have been around the block enough to know that even though you may think no one has any bad things to say of you?.they probably don?t??of course this is naturally just to your face?.models are like webmasters, producers, directors, etc?.they have their own clique?s some even have them within those clique?s??trust me?..I know you have heard of this one?..

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

So for fuck sake don?t think everyone LOVES and adores you?..chances are it maybe the other way around?.and in all business there are HATERS?..jealous people, old business partners, etc, etc??.NO ONE IN PORN COULD RUN FOR PRES AND GET THE ENTIRE POPULAR VOTE!

There are also no angels in porn either??the business was founded by the ?mob?.

Someone should really teach a class called porn 101?..of make a book ?being a pornographer for DUMMYS?!

We will write a girl tell her our g/g rate and she will either say great not my thing or I get some large amount for girl girl. I don't negotiate,I dont want someone who doesnt want to really be there. We say well we cant do that and if you ever change your mind let me know. We have had a bunch come back and the price was then ok. Also I will not pay crazy money for a shoot that takes 45 mins with paperwork.

I have to disagree, the mob is gone out of it. If they were tubes and piracy wouldnt exist. lol Its middle class kids from the suburbs. its not the same business.I worked in bricks and mortar adult for a long time. The owners I worked for ran their businesses with integrity. I think for some porn is the excuse that is used for being a scumbag. That same person would be a scumbag if they owned a flower shop .

Now Danza Ive heard very nice things about you. Is use of the word whore over and over part of the dirty danza personna?

Im sure many hate me....

I think jane is one... she is still coming to reality with what she is....

I still like jane though... she's a hott whore with a nice body....

yeah I like the word... when I say it in person I put a nice ephasis on it... I mean no harm by it...

I'm a fucking whore for god sakes...


I call my wife either my

"number one hooker"

or

My kitchen whore....



that is until she slaps the shit outta me... LOL

kitchen whore lol you are a trip lol

if I got a group of girls with me... no joke it could be my mother, my wife, my grandmother.... and we go out to eat... I tell the little hostess whore...

I need a table of 4 for me and the hookers here....


honestly I mean no harm by it... I use use a girls real name... that normally means im pissed at her for some reason... if I say whore, hooker.. sluzy, slut I always have a smile on my face......

what funny is this Jane girl (who by the way I would still give some 2 ball compound to) gets so upset and starts calling them talent and all that shit... blah blah blah... models.. yeah they model cock.... and then you see the white knights come in and say oh thats wrong to say... but you know as well as I do... when it's just them and the boys they say it all the time....

panzies... panzies I tell you

Ill pay a girl $500 if i know the return on the content will be worth it. But I generally pay $300 to $350 for bj scenes here in LA with very hot models.

tony man....I said it WAS founded by the mob.....just as a little place where Danza lives and the have that god awful convention once a year.....I?m thinking...wait....wait....oh yeah VEGAS....it too was built by the "mob"......now as for today.....not anymore Corporations run the game now.....you have to have a Las Vegas Sheriff's card to flip burgers on Fremont St. I would like to hope folks still have integrity in any business....but this one kinda is a magnet for the unethical. It is too bad...but forums like this would cease to exist if everyone was on the level.

If you think the "mob" is gone from vegas you have another thing coming brother....

ive been here my whole life and my family has been here for decades ....

although I have no idea what you mean by 'mob" there is no such thing.... :winkwink:

Exactly but you know that Vegas girls are $100-$200 and very rare $300 for a HOT girl that is experienced or that will never shoot again.

True but if a girl wants $500 Its America just say no thanx

what he said...

I do not hate you at all. I just hate the word whore. That word pisses me off for some reason. I would rather be called what I am, a bitch. :winkwink:

You are one wild one Danza.....BTW...I think you can now take the KS.......now I know you knows who I is taking about.....

KS....Nasty D....IceyM......"The Silverback" pink haired mofo took him......need I say more!

I cant say Bitch or Kunt/Cunt....way tooo personal. :helpme

Is that rate per hour or per scene? I find those rates for a BJ interesting. I ony shoot hardcore for my own site, so I do not know what the going BJ rate is. I do know that most of the photographers I know pay the models at least $150 to $200 per hour for penthouse style shoots. So I would think a BJ would pay more then a penthouse style shoot.

Really? I think a lot of women would rather be called a bitch than a whore. :upsidedow

Shit. Escorts can make more than the shit you guys are talking about...

can we settle on whitch ?

LOL...

as for the hour... thats rare for me to be shooting an hour... so the way I see it honestly.. doing penthouse style shoots is much harder than filming a BJ scene... you gotta pose.. hold the pose ect ect... bj and sex scenes are natural.. you blow guys and you have sex with guys... so that shit comes natural... sometimes on photo shoots you will be in the snow, outdoors, holding odd poses for a while... thats just my opinion I guess to each his own...

btw me saying whore just means I like you.... if I start using your name that means something is wrong LOL

ive been shooting 8 almost 9 years... avg rates are 100-300 most the time... ill splurge sometimes if I really want the girl for a scene but never would I ever pay 500 bucks... I think guys that do that are just retarded and it lets the rate go to the girls head...

ive done scenes before for other companies and never even asked what I was getting paid... I just collected a check at the end.. to me a shoot is a shoot and money is better than no money...

when I see girls put a price on their head.. it just shows ego and you know they are going to be a clock watcher...

I would say honestly I keep girls at the studio maybe an hour and a half total.. as for video time... I'm good at what I do ... I go over the shoot before it even starts so they last tops 30 mins... thats if she takes a break in the middle due to roughness.. if not then around 20 min... I keeps my vids to the point....

well I will take it from you that that would be the correct terminology....my mistake.

I do think the TV censors now let the word "bitch" in prime time now...so with that it mind its more "mainstream".

What type are you speaking of....streetwalker, brothel girl or call girl? :helpme

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there are always going to be guys overpaying.....unless you dimwits form a cartel (see OPEC)....you will never have that power........it would also be in your best interest to have something besides the FSC...to do your bidding on Capitol Hill....some type of PAC for fuck sakes.....porn makes BILLIONS of dollars per year but naturally everyone wants to be greedy and tightwad.....
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So right. Look what a lousy $200,000 to Chris Dodd, $200,000 to W and $100,000 to O bought AIG. Billions.

LOL... the fuck was I thinking with that thread... I think my point got proved when a pink haired dood did the job though huh....

little bit of training will take a brawler any day...