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$5 submissions 03-21-2009 02:05 AM

He's in good company. Failure is often the step leading to success. Many very successful people didn't hit a homerun on their first turn at bat. Sometimes you have to swing many many times until you can hit it out of the park. In this case, he built a company, it went bust and now he's deep in debt and has to deliver pizzas to make ends meet.

As long as he keeps his dreams alive and keeps trying, he should be okay. Tons of famous men like Washington, Lincoln, even KFC's "Colonel" Sanders failed often and failed hard before they got it right. Same with Andy Grove of Intel--he once said that in his life, he tried and failed with 99 companies... his hundredth was Intel.

If you're an entrepreneur going through tough times and knocked to your knees a few times, keep coming up and keep learning. Success is one step away if you let it.

kane 03-21-2009 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by EthnicLover (Post 15656262)
No sympathy for this guy. If you're making $100,000's of dollars a year for many years you should have saved so much money that you wouldn't have to work anymore if you didn't want to. His hedge fund goes down, so what. He should have a million dollars sitting in savings to support him and his family. He spent his money instead of saving at least some of it.

I have to agree. I salute him for swallowing his pride and doing what he has to do to feed his family, but he brought this on himself.

He mad a ton of money, but he bought a huge house, expensive vacations, country club memberships and it looks like they spent every penny he made. Then he decides to quit his job and start a hedge fund. As it turns out most of these hedge funds were doing nothing but creating fictitious wealth based on the hopeful equity of all the sub prime mortgages. When that came crumbling down it showed the reality was there were about $30 worth of outstanding loans for every $1 of actual sub prime equity so these hedge fund guys were betting on something that was already way over extended. It sounds like he got greedy and tried to cash in on this bubble and he either did it wrong or did it at the wrong time. Either way when it failed he didn't walk away. He put his savings and 401K into it to try to keep it afloat. So it wasn't like he blew through his savings and 401K supporting his family, he did it trying to cash in on a hedge fund that didn't pay out.

Had this guy been paying off his house and stashing money in things like money market accounts and very low return very low risk to solidify his future and right now he would have a ton of cash in the bank and could ride it out until things turned up and he could get the job he wanted.

The Seduction of Art 03-21-2009 08:10 AM

Didn't Al Goldstein wind up working in a deli at one point?

Phoenix 03-21-2009 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin (Post 15655206)
In 8 months it will be a news story about how a pizza delivery boy went from 7.29/hr to 750,000/yr investing in the market lol.

thats what i want to see

there are going to be some major rags to riches stories coming up

im hoping that when forced into a corner, humans react favourably to the pressure

tony286 03-21-2009 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Seduction of Art (Post 15656778)
Didn't Al Goldstein wind up working in a deli at one point?

yep read his autobiography, he pissed it all away over 10 millions.

topnotch, standup guy 03-21-2009 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Horny Alf (Post 15656079)
lol good to see his wife stuck with him through the hard times!

Indeed :thumbsup

John-ACWM 03-21-2009 08:35 AM

Stupidity gets one from millions to zero,no big news

fuzebox 03-21-2009 09:43 AM

I think you guys are being hard on the guy. My theory is he's not stupid, he's actually very smart, and he's working the system for now.

raven1083 03-21-2009 09:45 AM

that's bad! ouch!

bushwacker 03-21-2009 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bo$$ (Post 15655426)
boo fucking hoo for him

if he was smart, he would invest a little bit, set up a trust fund for his kids, and put a few hundred K in CD's. The interesest youd get from just half mil in one year is enough to live off of.

:eek7:eek7

the Shemp 03-21-2009 10:18 AM

He was CEO of his own company...he made most of his money previously working for a company where he bought and sold stocks for institutional clients...
so he left a great job to start up on his own and he failed... maybe he is not CEO material...

sweetcuties 03-21-2009 12:32 PM

I saw the story last night on 20/20... What I don't understand is why didn't he pay off his house when he was rolling?? He topped out at 750k which will drop him down to 500k being in the 28% tax bracket. He should have paid off his mortgage or most of it... he had 500k to start his own hedge fund that didn't work and he hasn't made a mortgage payment in 2yrs, very sad story but a great 20/20 :2 cents:

kane 03-21-2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetcuties (Post 15657325)
I saw the story last night on 20/20... What I don't understand is why didn't he pay off his house when he was rolling?? He topped out at 750k which will drop him down to 500k being in the 28% tax bracket. He should have paid off his mortgage or most of it... he had 500k to start his own hedge fund that didn't work and he hasn't made a mortgage payment in 2yrs, very sad story but a great 20/20 :2 cents:

It looks like he made that good money for a lot of years, but it also looks like they spent it as he made it. He talked about Aspen ski trips and exclusive vacations as well as country club memberships and things like that so I have the feeling it went out just as fast as it came in.

notoldschool 03-21-2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 15656197)
Fucking dumb ass that lived his life to the max. Golf, vacatons, trophy wife.. I bet he had less than 50K in his savings the whole time. They haven't made payment on their house in 2 years? what the fuck is that about?

Actually he had a million in savings then lost it all staying in that fucking house. He was down to 500,000. in savings and fucked him self with bad investments. He is a fucking retard and he deserves the dissapointment his family will have in him forever.

RadicalSights 03-21-2009 12:51 PM

What a fucking loser.

seeandsee 03-21-2009 01:36 PM

rich fucking pizza delivery fail

SilentKnight 03-21-2009 01:37 PM

I can't generate any sympathy for this guy (or his wife) - although I feel sorry for his children.

"Sorry kids...your mother and I spent your future education and inheritance...living the lavish lifestyle."

This is typically what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket and don't plan for a rainy day. The moment they couldn't make their mortgage payment - the 'For Sale' sign should have gone on the front lawn. Instead - they buried themselves deeper in the financial hole to keep up the appearance of wealth and status to their friends, family and neighbours.

And now they've got a real dose of reality.

I don't think people in this thread are being "too harsh" on the guy. Why soften the blow? He fucked up and didn't plan for tomorrow. He failed to read the writing on the wall.

Sympathy is still in the dictionary between shit 'n syphilis.

Reak AGV 03-21-2009 01:37 PM

That must hurt.

eroticsexxx 03-21-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jai (Post 15656017)
what a fuckn idiot,

why would you keep a house worth over 1 million dollars and not pay the mortgage for 2 years???


the day he cudnt pay his mortgage, he could of sold this house, and bought a 200K condo! and been perfect

instead he has 100K on creditcard debt and gets 500$ free from gov't a month for FOOD

fuckn loser idiots fuck up america and canada and deserve if the majority of the US and canada are like this, then north america deserves to lose all its jobs and become a 3rd world



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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 15657479)
I can't generate any sympathy for this guy (or his wife) - although I feel sorry for his children.

"Sorry kids...your mother and I spent your future education and inheritance...living the lavish lifestyle."

This is typically what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket and don't plan for a rainy day. The moment they couldn't make their mortgage payment - the 'For Sale' sign should have gone on the front lawn. Instead - they buried themselves deeper in the financial hole to keep up the appearance of wealth and status to their friends, family and neighbours.

And now they've got a real dose of reality.

I don't think people in this thread are being "too harsh" on the guy. Why soften the blow? He fucked up and didn't plan for tomorrow. He failed to read the writing on the wall.

Sympathy is still in the dictionary between shit 'n syphilis.

Valid and rational reasoning.

His plans for the future might have appeared on the surface to be solid, but were absolutely shaky. Living on credit and defaulting on loans and mortgages is the worst financial strategy ever.

He was supposed to cut all extraneous expenses from the break, keep his credit intact and attain as many revenue generating assets as possible once he saw that his fund was going belly up.

The ability to generate revenue is priceless, credit status even more so as the ability to rebuild will sometimes depend upon it.

He is completely screwed as no bank will lend him a dime, nor will anyone want to hire him as he has exercised no semblance of financial intelligence.

His story also does not seem to add up as his education and contacts should have been able to get him in a sensible position in the meantime. He is not being forthright about something.

Rakie 03-21-2009 09:34 PM

Regardless of what happened, what kind of plan he had, how dumb he is or isn't.

God damn if I'm not impressed he's doing whatever he has to for his family... How many guys out there wouldn't find reason to get out of bed in the morning after something like that ?

Agent 488 03-21-2009 09:44 PM

same story will happen to many "big players" in the adult webmaster biz. the easy money days are long gone.

Rochard 03-21-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask (Post 15655198)
Ever seen who's the president of the USA right now?

:2 cents:

Have you see who was the president for the past eight years?

Clearly this didn't all happen in the past three months.

Drake 03-21-2009 10:22 PM

There are many others like him who didn't make preparations for hard times. I gather from him saying he's lived well for 45+ years that he's always had money and has never known what it's like to not have it. Tough lessen to learn.

rowan 03-21-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jai (Post 15656017)
what a fuckn idiot,

why would you keep a house worth over 1 million dollars and not pay the mortgage for 2 years???


the day he cudnt pay his mortgage, he could of sold this house, and bought a 200K condo! and been perfect

How do you know the market value of the house is more than what they owe the bank?...


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