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pornlaw 03-25-2009 08:46 PM

While KB argues his celebrity status, let me take this one...

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Are you basically saying that to use this service you would need to upload your entire members area to your servers?
Hey Robbie -- if the site is too large, you can send a hard drive of your content to our hosting company and they will upload it directly. It will be compressed automatically.

You would then need to upload the 2257 docs and IDs and then attached them to the corresponding content.

TheAmericanCannibal 03-25-2009 09:57 PM

Michael I am definitely a celebrity, right?
:-))


hahahaha

WarChild 03-25-2009 10:04 PM

At this point I should point out that I may have confused Pornlaw with Chadknowslaw? I'm not sure if it's the same person or two completely different people. In either case, that's the reference to Chad I made.

Further, I have no reason to doubt the compitence of Pornlaw and in that regard I'd be confident that this new service meets all the legal criteria.

So in short, I have no reason to believe this won't be a great service. I'm just surprised anything that includes KB would ever be great, being as he's such an enormous tool.

Elli 03-25-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 15673193)
Wont be in Phx this year man , JDL is taking a long hiatus from shows will be awhile till I make a return tbh

But who will have the poolside suite????

PSSuperstars 03-25-2009 10:12 PM

I know that this is a LIFESAVER for a lot of independent cam girls... and female talent in the phone sex industry.

THANK YOU :)

MikeSmoke 03-25-2009 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 15673296)
Hey Robbie -- if the site is too large, you can send a hard drive of your content to our hosting company and they will upload it directly. It will be compressed automatically.

You would then need to upload the 2257 docs and IDs and then attached them to the corresponding content.

Michael - it's a great idea. The "problem" is that (unless I'm missing something) many, many years' worth of data entry would have to be completely redone :(

Ycaza 03-25-2009 11:07 PM

i got the lowdown from kb and it is very cool

Ozarkz 03-25-2009 11:17 PM

You have to upload the content along with the identification and contracts?

I think it's going to take a while to gain people's trust on this.

Having PornLaw a part of it is key tho.

pornlaw 03-25-2009 11:42 PM

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At this point I should point out that I may have confused Pornlaw with Chadknowslaw? I'm not sure if it's the same person or two completely different people.
I am not Chad, but I have alot of respect for him. He's a stand up guy.

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Further, I have no reason to doubt the compitence of Pornlaw and in that regard I'd be confident that this new service meets all the legal criteria.
Thanks Warchild.

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I know that this is a LIFESAVER for a lot of independent cam girls... and female talent in the phone sex industry.
Thanks.... we really feel that the small to medium websites are our target market. The big guys already have their 2257 solutions in place and have had them for years...

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Michael - it's a great idea. The "problem" is that (unless I'm missing something) many, many years' worth of data entry would have to be completely redone
We realize www.2257Safe.com isnt for everyone. But I will talk to Dan, our programming partner, and ask if there is a script that can be written to import existing data into our system.

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You have to upload the content along with the identification and contracts?

I think it's going to take a while to gain people's trust on this.

Having PornLaw a part of it is key tho.
Per 28 CFR 75 a copy of the depiction (pics/vids) has to be kept with the docs & IDs.
However, the content will be so compressed at upload it will not be of a quality that can be used commercially. Also, the media server will be behind a PCI compliant firewall, no one will want or be able to get to it anyway.

MikeSmoke 03-26-2009 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 15673658)
We realize www.2257Safe.com isnt for everyone. But I will talk to Dan, our programming partner, and ask if there is a script that can be written to import existing data into our system.

Thanks...I think there are only a couple of major 2257 systems currently out there, so it would (I think) make business sense if your system could take those major databases and directly import the data from them - since that could significantly increase the client base.

JFK 03-26-2009 03:45 AM

Fitty http://www.2257safe.com 's in Phoenix:thumbsup

V_RocKs 03-26-2009 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15673192)
I don't have any following using my real name. I can accept that I'm not a celebrity. I don't have to try and force myself in to the spot light.

I guess we'll see how your reality show works out. I'm guessing big fail. If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll gladly say it.

Maybe I can highlight the situation for you a little easier with pictures and google (since you seem to like google).

http://www.mtv.com/shared/promoimage...al/281x211.jpg
Kevin Blatt - Marketing himself on the Internet for what, 10 years?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kevin+Blatt
Results 1 - 10 of about 215,000 for Kevin Blatt.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...tar9/boxxy.jpg
Boxxy - Internet Meme. No marketing done at all.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Boxxy
Results 1 - 10 of about 324,000 for Boxxy

How long did it take you marketing yourself as hard as you could to reach about half the celebrity status of a goofy looking girl posted on 4chan? Yeah, you're a celebrity alright.



Not fair. Why would Kevin compete with Boxxy for pedos? I am sure he isn't looking for that kind of fan base.

pornlaw 03-26-2009 07:15 AM

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Thanks...I think there are only a couple of major 2257 systems currently out there, so it would (I think) make business sense if your system could take those major databases and directly import the data from them - since that could significantly increase the client base.
I dont mean to sound ignorant but what systems are you referring to ? I can really only think of a couple...

(1) ZEI2257
(2) Y-Tracker -- 2257Safe.com is fully compatiable with Y-Tracker
(3) Mavis

What are the other formats you are referring to ?

MrPinks 03-26-2009 07:50 AM

Is there a way that this can help "secondary producers"?

pornlaw 03-26-2009 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPinks (Post 15674423)
Is there a way that this can help "secondary producers"?

2257Safe.com is for secondary and primary producers.

TheAmericanCannibal 03-26-2009 09:59 AM

For anyone not familiar with the current verdict that has been appealed in Phoenix AZ for Jeff Kilbride and James Schaffer should check out this link and notice that they were also in violation of 2257 recordkeeping.


http://az.findacase.com/research/wfr...3.DAZ.ht m/qx


This is very interesting to me, since it's like comparing Al Capone back in the 40's with his crimes. While the DOJ wasn't able to convict Al on the various felonies he had committed, they DID get him on Tax evasion.
I don't want to see hard working webmasters get indicted like Jeff and Jim for 2257.

I hope in the near future there won't be a witchhunt against webmasters- but I also feel our product will give many the piece of mind they are looking for. It's another layer of protection that most webmasters still haven't a clue about.

2257 is THE LAW. We are here to keep all of your valuable documents with an intuitive solution.

Email me to set up a meeting in PHX

MikeSmoke 03-26-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 15674345)
I dont mean to sound ignorant but what systems are you referring to ? I can really only think of a couple...

(1) ZEI2257
(2) Y-Tracker -- 2257Safe.com is fully compatiable with Y-Tracker
(3) Mavis

What are the other formats you are referring to ?

You've got them all there :)

WebairGerard 03-26-2009 02:57 PM

KB emailed you. let's get together in PHX.

TheAmericanCannibal 03-26-2009 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WebairGerard (Post 15676174)
KB emailed you. let's get together in PHX.

got it-
And Michael and I will be scheduling time with you!

pornlaw 03-26-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke (Post 15676161)
You've got them all there :)

I will talk to Dan and see if he can program a script that can pull information from other programs. However, I suspect that ZEI and MAVIS are proprietary and would require reverse engineering -- which I am pretty sure they would say is a violation of their licensing agreement.

Some people I know have used Excel for their database. We should be able to handle that, since exporting is one of the features of Excel.

kmdguy 03-26-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 15676910)
I will talk to Dan and see if he can program a script that can pull information from other programs. However, I suspect that ZEI and MAVIS are proprietary and would require reverse engineering -- which I am pretty sure they would say is a violation of their licensing agreement.

Some people I know have used Excel for their database. We should be able to handle that, since exporting is one of the features of Excel.

Hi Michael and everybody,

Dan here, programmer for 2257Safe and YTracker. It's likely that each major program has their own proprietary way of storing their data and how it's named, etc. I've never had my hands on the other two packages so I don't know what kind of inherent exporting capabilities they may or may not have. If anyone knows whether those other programs can export data then let us know and maybe I can make some kind of script mechanism that we can use to move the records. Since I wrote YTracker I obviously have access to how it stores its data and have some methods already in place to automatically move most of their records in the new 2257Safe format.

Anyone that has used Excel would have to send us their files because obviously no two people will be doing it the same way, but I can most likely massage the data out of it and into the new 2257Safe format.

Even though a lot of data can probably be exported out, there is no way to export 100% of all data out of anything because model IDs need to be uploaded, model release forms and content, but the main structure of all your information can most likely be massaged out. Again if anyone knows how the other two main programs deal (or not deal) with exporting data let me know and we'll definitely see what we can do as I would expect a number of people interested in moving their records.

Either way, we'll try to make it as painless as can possibly be to move your records into the 2257Safe system.

Take care,
Dan Underhill


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