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mrsoccer 03-31-2009 09:07 AM
I have an account with bangbros since 2006 and works perfect getting sales and sending traffic never got a problem and the support was always good. I think whomever has issues with them has two options talk to them to solve it or move on..

Paul Markham 03-31-2009 09:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scuba steve (Post 15691783)
first off we have never pointed fingers or deferred blame from anyone. we said there was a problem, we are doing our best to fix. so paul i don't know where that comes from. yeah we were all confused as to why you were trying to instigate on another board when you aren't an affiliate(which if i recall correctly not a single person of the 40 or so posts supported you). we don't get into your business about content, and i know you're trying to say "i'm looking out for everyone else" or "ethics". but it makes our jobs a lot easier trying to fix everyone we can instead of causing/creating more rumors.
This is a lie. I'm sorry if it's strong language but it's true. You are pointing fingers at me just because I may or may not be an affiliate, do you know this for sure?

Doing your best to fix it? Doing your best to fix it would mean you going to EVERY board and posting a message there, have you done this?

Doing your best to fix it would mean, you emailing every banned, terminated or blocked affiliate since you updated the program, checking their accounts with a fine tooth comb and making sure they are contacted and asked if they can log in.

Doing your best would mean, you checking the system as soon as people started to contact you, finding the problem, fixing it and not asking for passports. Unless you want to blame someone lower in the chain. Then doing your best would mean giving that job to someone higher.

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jel, i'm sorry i wasn't given your cb stats over the weekend. most people don't work over the weekend(not referring to myself). then i was given the wrong dates for you yesterday. then when i told you this you told me to forget it, you said cancel your other account with us(which i didn't yet). so please don't go and add this to our "lack of business". you said forget it, i moved on. do i want to lose you as an affiliate? not at all. but you said you can't do business with us, so be it.
Is Jel the only person who contacted you with the same complaint?

Think about that folks.

If he was the only person, then they should be thankful he brought it to the boards. If he is not the only person then clearly their "best" was not good enough. Maybe if you want to keep his and other peoples accounts you had better look at this from the other side. You should not be flaming him for doing what he did bringing it to the boards. Not anyone else to boards that have been missed while you're doing your best.

And getting the wrong dates given to you, if this was an internal employee your best is not good enough.

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you few guys are really trying to blow something out of proportion. a small, small percentage of people have been affected compared to our numbers of affiliates we have. i have dealt with everyone that has msged or emailed me, including seeking out those that were saying they had a problem but weren't getting in touch with me. (i guess this makes me a stand up guy now paul). as i've said several times, i'm available at 438528520 or [email protected]
Getting your account canceled is not a small problem, it might be for you but it's not fot the people who suffered from this.

Yes contacting all those who were terminated and did not contact you makes you a stand up guy NOW. Did you need me to nudge you towards that, because originally you did not ask for that. So please be careful who you flame and over what.

Stop pointing fingers at people who are making suggestions you're taking up.

WarChild 03-31-2009 09:29 AM
Paul shut the fuck up you crazy old fool.

scuba steve 03-31-2009 09:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15692022)
This is a lie. I'm sorry if it's strong language but it's true. You are pointing fingers at me just because I may or may not be an affiliate, do you know this for sure?

Doing your best to fix it? Doing your best to fix it would mean you going to EVERY board and posting a message there, have you done this?

Doing your best to fix it would mean, you emailing every banned, terminated or blocked affiliate since you updated the program, checking their accounts with a fine tooth comb and making sure they are contacted and asked if they can log in.

Doing your best would mean, you checking the system as soon as people started to contact you, finding the problem, fixing it and not asking for passports. Unless you want to blame someone lower in the chain. Then doing your best would mean giving that job to someone higher.

Is Jel the only person who contacted you with the same complaint?

Think about that folks.

If he was the only person, then they should be thankful he brought it to the boards. If he is not the only person then clearly their "best" was not good enough. Maybe if you want to keep his and other peoples accounts you had better look at this from the other side. You should not be flaming him for doing what he did bringing it to the boards. Not anyone else to boards that have been missed while you're doing your best.

And getting the wrong dates given to you, if this was an internal employee your best is not good enough.


Getting your account canceled is not a small problem, it might be for you but it's not fot the people who suffered from this.

Yes contacting all those who were terminated and did not contact you makes you a stand up guy NOW. Did you need me to nudge you towards that, because originally you did not ask for that. So please be careful who you flame and over what.

Stop pointing fingers at people who are making suggestions you're taking up.
please tell me when i blamed you for our software problem. actually tell me when i blamed anyone else for OUR software problem. go on every board and show me that. and please go and reread where it says "i just signed up for this board to address this problem" and why have i not posted on netpond? because admin didn't authorize me till yesterday, and by that point we were accused of colluding with the government to catch terrorists under the patriot act. a little too ridiculous for me to get involved at that point. and why did i not post on the one the thread where you got torn up on another board? because of that point exactly, i didn't need to contribute anymore to it.

and it wasn't an internal employee with the wrong dates. chargebacks come from the processor and/or the credit card companies. bangbros does not own a credit card company.

i'm sorry you don't feel i'm qualified to handle this. i would disagree with you on that. i didn't need you to "nudge" me towards anything. i myself and others were on top of the problem, trying to get in touch with people. you want credit for something i was doing days before you said it? be my guest.

and yes, i never said it was a "small" problem. i've helped out everyone from 2 sales a month guys to much more. i'd appreciate if you'd stop accusing us of things, trying to take what i or anyone else says out of context. why did you even icq me yesterday? to say hi? and that you're working on something that doesn't concern us?

from the beginning, we've said there is a problem and not everyone is affected. the people that were, all they have to do is talk to me and i will try to fix it for them.

TeenCat 03-31-2009 09:36 AM
software problem ... every software have a logs, once the problem is filled, you had to send email to everyone whos account is or was suspended ... that was not done, now it is not fault of software but no interests to do that of the crew ... no more comments needed ...

mpahlca 03-31-2009 09:37 AM
Hey Steve fuck em all just means more joins for me. They are all just wasting your time when you could be serving me, leave them banned and spend your day working with me. Pipecrew will let you I know it.

Sin 03-31-2009 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15692070)
Paul shut the fuck up you crazy old fool.
No shit!

Its gone from "believing in something" to "telling them how to run their business"

Business must be slow on Paul's side because those are some long ass posts.

WarChild 03-31-2009 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 15692113)
software problem ... every software have a logs, once the problem is filled, you had to send email to everyone whos account is or was suspended ... that was not done, now it is not fault of software but no interests to do that of the crew ... no more comments needed ...
The reason that you are and will always be a failure is purely owing to you. Just so you know. :2 cents:

Sin 03-31-2009 09:40 AM
I LOVE BANG BROS!!!

esp their artistic talents with things like 'beefcurtains'

Paul Markham 03-31-2009 10:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scuba steve (Post 15692089)
please tell me when i blamed you for our software problem. actually tell me when i blamed anyone else for OUR software problem. go on every board and show me that. and please go and reread where it says "i just signed up for this board to address this problem" and why have i not posted on netpond? because admin didn't authorize me till yesterday, and by that point we were accused of colluding with the government to catch terrorists under the patriot act. a little too ridiculous for me to get involved at that point. and why did i not post on the one the thread where you got torn up on another board? because of that point exactly, i didn't need to contribute anymore to it.
When did I claim the software problem was my fault. Sorry you lost me on that one. I never said you blamed me.

Were you registering on ALL boards to do your best to inform every one?

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and it wasn't an internal employee with the wrong dates. chargebacks come from the processor and/or the credit card companies. bangbros does not own a credit card company.
The wrong dates came from your credit card processor? Fine.

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i'm sorry you don't feel i'm qualified to handle this. i would disagree with you on that. i didn't need you to "nudge" me towards anything. i myself and others were on top of the problem, trying to get in touch with people. you want credit for something i was doing days before you said it? be my guest.
I never said I did not feel you were qualified. So where did you get that from. I said I did not think you were doing enough. Days after telling affiliates they had to contact you it now seems you were already contacting them. You should of said that and if you had, andf it was trus, affiliates would not of been posting here.

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and yes, i never said it was a "small" problem. i've helped out everyone from 2 sales a month guys to much more. i'd appreciate if you'd stop accusing us of things, trying to take what i or anyone else says out of context. why did you even icq me yesterday? to say hi? and that you're working on something that doesn't concern us?
You said mountain out of a mole hill what does that imply to you? Ever seen a big mole hill. :1orglaugh

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from the beginning, we've said there is a problem and not everyone is affected. the people that were, all they have to do is talk to me and i will try to fix it for them.
So they have to talk to you, before or after you contacted them via email and the other boards?

Stop flaming people for reading what you say.
Stop flaming people for bringing it to the boards.

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Its gone from "believing in something" to "telling them how to run their business"
Point out what I said was wrong please.
Is it wrong to make things public when keeping it quiet failed.
Is it wrong to point out a company who is waiting on others to contact them, to right their mistakes.
Is it wrong to tell people on a board that had missed this.

Maybe someone else would like to check some of the other major boards to see if it's been brought to their attention. I won't do it. I'll get flamed. :1orglaugh

Don't see them replying to anyone on B&B. Should I mention over there they are now contacting all terminated affiliates. They will be reassured with that news.

Don't see anything on Xbiz either.

That's it for me. I'm finished with this as long as Steve does not start flaming me again. I pick holes in him too easy. Maybe he is doing his best.

Porko 03-31-2009 10:15 AM
BangBros rules!

Hazlewood 03-31-2009 10:33 AM
Scuba Steve is the man...He will take care of you...but go one on one, this is stupid and a waste of everyone's time

scuba steve 03-31-2009 11:01 AM
i'm done with dealing with this in regards to paul. you win, you picked me apart. i really don't care, i have more important things to worry about.

if you are actually an affiliate of ours, and have something that actually concerns us, please get in touch with me. i'll also be in phoenix, more than happy to meet you there and discuss anything. get in tomorrow, be there till sunday. 438528520/[email protected]

Iron Fist 03-31-2009 11:07 AM
Cliffnotes? Or not even worth mentioning? :1orglaugh

baddog 03-31-2009 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by scuba steve (Post 15680519)
i can do a lot more if you guys talk to me on a one on one basis than i can hashing this out here....438528520
I feel your pain just reading this. Unbelievable.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-31-2009 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15692567)
Cliffnotes? Or not even worth mentioning? :1orglaugh
Cliffnotes, BangBros had a software bug, caused a "please contact support" message to actually say "banned" by accident, Paul Markham and a few other numb skulls started to call BangBros worthless and are conspiring with the government to out terrorists from al queda or some shit like that, Bangbros continues to be a leading sponsor program and pushing record numbers once again.

Mr Jefferson almost got away with it, if it weren't for those pesky kids and their dog Scooby doo.

That about sums it up, anybody here not already pimping BangBros and their genius BangBus and the always hilarious BaitBus, signup here www.bangbrosonline.com

WarChild 03-31-2009 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15692567)
Cliffnotes? Or not even worth mentioning? :1orglaugh
Paul Markham is a crazy old bastard.

TeenCat 03-31-2009 11:53 AM
you can blame paul or whoever will be against that bangbros fault or whoever you want, but if bangbros had problem and they knew about it, they had to make announcement and send emails to affected webmasters. they didnt do that and it looks like there are still webmasters sending traffic to codes that are linked to closed accounts ... what the hell is this discussion about then? you say bangbros is cool? wake the fuck up!

Allxfunclub 03-31-2009 11:59 AM
They've always been great with me

Sin 03-31-2009 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 15692789)
you can blame paul or whoever will be against that bangbros fault or whoever you want, but if bangbros had problem and they knew about it, they had to make announcement and send emails to affected webmasters. they didnt do that and it looks like there are still webmasters sending traffic to codes that are linked to closed accounts ... what the hell is this discussion about then? you say bangbros is cool? wake the fuck up!
Interestingly enough, nobody here is 'blaming' anybody except people like you who don't read the whole thread before opening your mouth, and Paul who apparently his business has gotten so slow he has nothing better to do than critique that of others.

Bangbros doesn't "have" to do shit, like Steve has said a number of times already some webmasters simply contacted them and then others came running to the boards, then there's the asshats who hopped on board on the forums, and decided it was better worth their while to complain and bitch and whine like a menopausal female, than to actually get on icq and do something about it.

Paul thinks he's "in the right" and he can think that all he wants, but I'd love to see how he would react if someone got as in his face as he is getting, trying to tell him how to run his business. Maybe something like "Keep your wrinkly old ass outta the content production, people don't want to see it" Point is, its none of his business; he doesn't own and operate or even work for BangBros, and if he was sincere in his motivations, he would have come up with a much more pleasant approach to his "helpful suggestions" instead of running all over the entire web throwing threads here and there like chicken little screaming that the sky is falling.

Ultimately, I think that the sponsors are there to provide the paysites, the promotional content, but it is up to the webmasters to keep track of and maintain their own accounts. BangBros is not here to babysit every single fucking one of you...

Shit happens. Deal with it.

Jel 03-31-2009 12:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scuba steve (Post 15692089)

and yes, i never said it was a "small" problem.
Yeah you did. In this thread.

Jel 03-31-2009 12:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15692600)
I feel your pain just reading this. Unbelievable.
Read the OP, then come back. Shit in my fucking hat, you Bro suckers are unreal, did you read the thread? In it's entirety? I cant believe half the fucking posts in this thread, it's like 'oh lets skip to page 3'. Read from page fucking one.

Sausage 03-31-2009 01:46 PM
Wow the Bro Club is definitely switching into action.

I am sure Steve etc are 'stand up guys', but this isn't anything small like what they are claiming and definitely not limited to a mere 15 people. Hell I have personally spoken to more than 15 people myself who have been shitcanned, and that doesn't include the 2 accounts here that were killed off. Also a mere login error doesn't require a passport verification and a reference to excessive chargebacks.

Bangbros reps you need to all get your stories straight with eachother first.

Pipecrew 03-31-2009 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 15693349)
Wow the Bro Club is definitely switching into action.

I am sure Steve etc are 'stand up guys', but this isn't anything small like what they are claiming and definitely not limited to a mere 15 people. Hell I have personally spoken to more than 15 people myself who have been shitcanned, and that doesn't include the 2 accounts here that were killed off. Also a mere login error doesn't require a passport verification and a reference to excessive chargebacks.

Bangbros reps you need to all get your stories straight with eachother first.
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Socks 03-31-2009 03:12 PM
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bdld 03-31-2009 03:14 PM
i want to know if campaign tracking is coming to BB stats..

Ron2k1 03-31-2009 03:39 PM
I don't want to defend anyone here but couldn't bangbros simply put something on their login page like

"You might have troubles logging in, we are updating our software. If you can't get in contact us at bllaabla @ gmail.com"

Wouldn't that avoid all this drama?

Socks 03-31-2009 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron2k1 (Post 15693952)
I don't want to defend anyone here but couldn't bangbros simply put something on their login page like

"You might have troubles logging in, we are updating our software. If you can't get in contact us at bllaabla @ gmail.com"

Wouldn't that avoid all this drama?
but but but... what fun would life be if we all did things to make it easier?

Pipecrew 03-31-2009 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bdld (Post 15693830)
i want to know if campaign tracking is coming to BB stats..
yes sir, and lots of other cool stuff.

Lace 04-01-2009 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 15690352)
I think nats is great and I think the nats guys are all great. We have been on the same software since even before Nats was around and our support is excellent. Would not make much sense changing at this point.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

AlexUA 09-03-2009 08:56 AM
They close my account for nothing afters 3 years only because I am from Ukraine. And also they close accounts of many other fair webmasters. I was talking with their support, they show totally disrespect. Dont send traffic to them.

CaptainHowdy 09-03-2009 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexUA (Post 16271973)
They close my account for nothing afters 3 years only because I am from Ukraine. And also they close accounts of many other fair webmasters. I was talking with their support, they show totally disrespect. Dont send traffic to them.
Damm ........

kristin 09-03-2009 10:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 15683095)
As i've stated before, 90% of the people seeing a "terminated message" are not actually terminated, it's a software bug thats being worked out. It's not affecting everybody.

And to debunk your point of us "clearly keeping their money" if you are terminated for chargebacks, fraud, or anything like that. We automatically refund all your transactions and any future ones that might come in. Please tell me how we make money from that? It actually costs us money and manpower to do that.
So your programmers can't get you a dump of the accounts that are in "terminated" status?

Pipecrew 09-03-2009 10:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexUA (Post 16271973)
They close my account for nothing afters 3 years only because I am from Ukraine. And also they close accounts of many other fair webmasters. I was talking with their support, they show totally disrespect. Dont send traffic to them.
This is the first i've heard about this, do you want to hit me up?

9062599

Pipecrew 09-03-2009 10:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16272279)
So your programmers can't get you a dump of the accounts that are in "terminated" status?
This thread is 5 months old. All is resolved.

AlexUA 09-03-2009 11:04 PM
Pipecrew, I already talk with your friend unrespectful guy name Steve. No need to hit you up anymore since you are CHEATERS!

sexandcash 09-04-2009 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmiDean (Post 15679731)
Milkdudes suck
I strongly disagree with you-I love that caramel in teeth about to loose my crown feeling :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Joe King 09-04-2009 01:16 AM
interesting thread


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