Maybe you'll learn your lesson and not try to fuck dogs up the ass, dumb fuck

you're not suppose to grill that close to your dwelling... atleast 6-10ft.

Funny how all these ignorant fuckers say its just the owner...LOL...did anyone notice that the dog owner was a grandmother? So your saying this old lady trained him to attack..LOL..Such fucking retards in this thread...Jane B's opinion is expected because of her background in trailer park life, but the rest should seek help.

Yes of course, everyone is ignorant except you. Never mind that professionals in the field simply don't agree with what you have to say. You might want to have a look at the word "irony". :2 cents:

German sheps bond extremely close to 1 person or 1 family and will do ANYTHING to protect them. Simple fact, don't rough house around a dog like that! They are easily one of the smartest and most trainable dogs BUT can also be attack dogs.

I personally HATE pitbulls because my former brother in law had 1 that MOST of the time was the sweetest dog BUT if I wore this certain hat he'd attack the hat and go INSANE to try to get the hat. This same dog got into some bad fights with my nice fluffy golden retriever over a literal pissing match.

There is simply no place in this world for pitbulls and they need to be eradicated and banned. They do absolutely no good in the world. Same with those ugly ass Chihuahua's. They are evil pea brained bitches.

wine... he's turning into a whino in his old age.... :winkwink:

rahahahahahahahaha...
so you can train a tiger to not kill or a snake to not bite..
people who think they can alter DNA evolved nature of living creatures are just complete dumbasses.

Dogs have been domesticated for thousands of years, Tigers have not. You don't think selective breeding can have an effect in that period of time? Remember of course that many of the modern breeds of dog are less than 100 years old. Where did they come from????? Please use your head.

Even still, yes of course you can train a Tiger or even a Lion:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph...n_1364998i.jpg

2 seconds until some moron blames every pitbull for an isolated case.

More people die from choking on their own spoon than from pitbulls, more people die masturbating every year than pitbulls.

So yes pitbulls can be dangerous , although not nearly as dangerous as a spoon or your penis.

If you know the facts as well as you pretend you do, you well know these kind of animals (born fighters) will always be UNPREDICTABLE.

And that is the big problem. :2 cents:

LOL

Where is the number that are bitten badly or maimed?

Nope, I understand i am not the all knowing, but your ignorance is shown by you saying that pit bulls are all nice until trained by a mean person. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Maybe you should leave your kids alone with a couple great pit bulls for a while and see how great they are. Douche.

Blame the owners, not the Breed!

from spoons, masturbating or pitbulls ?


You are 100 times more likely to be killed by your own parents or a babysitter than a pitbull.

So if you want kids to be safe you should ban humans not pitbulls :)

No, it's not these alleged "born fighters" that are UNPREDICTABLE, it's all animals. When a powerful animal behaves like an animal, you have the potential for a huge problem. It's cute when a 10 pound teacup poodle nips at you, but not so much when it's a Rottweiler/Doberman/German Sheppard/Pit Bull/Standard Poodle/Mastif/Bull Mastif/Bull Dog/Fila Brasileiro etc, etc, etc. See the problem is any dog is capable of being aggressive.

Currently Pit Bulls are highly desired for their image by the worst kinds of owners. It wasn't always the case, they used to be considered the "Nanny Dog". If you ban one breed, these image chasing losers will simply go back to Rottweilers, or Dobermans, etc. You'd have to ban them all and unless you're willing to ban everything that someone else's negilgence can cause to do harm, then stay the fuck away from dog breeds too.

You're right in that some dogs have a higher desire to chase prey. Big sporting dogs like Rottweilers and Dobermans especially so. This should not be confused with aggressive behavior, this is simply the nature of these dogs. They don't chase children because they hate children and want to eat them. Rather it's because children run in jerky movements and make strange noises, unlike an adult. It looks like prey and it should be chased in their mind. This is why children should never be unsupervised with dogs of any kind. You wouldn't leave a child alone to play in a running car for even a few minutes and neither should you do it with a dog.

Damn that's crazy

No, just try to pay attention for a moment and you might actually learn something. At this point it's just stupidity not ignorance anymore.

YOU SHOULD NEVER LEAVE KIDS ALONE WITH ANY POWERFUL DOG. Pit Bull or otherwise. That's because DOGS CAN BE DANGEROUS.

You think the number of fatal dog attacks will actually go DOWN by banning Pit Bulls? It doesn't even pass the common sense test.

they are still more likely to be killed by the babysitter than the pitbulls.

Put a baby in a room with a spoon a pitbull and a babysitter and the safest thing in the room according to the stats is the pitbull :)

Sadly too many stories about violent pitt-bulls :(

If any dog is capable of being aggressive, why get a breed that is also capable of doing serious damage? Why go for the breed that tops the list of fatalities caused?

It's interesting you say that because a lot depends on how those stats were collected.


We can assume that every household has at least one spoon in it.

Every child should have at least one parent or caretaker.

Percentage wise, very few of those households with a spoon and a parent would also have a Pit Bull as a pet.

To say that more children die at the hands of the parent or spoon is misleading because very few are also exposed to pit bulls. A more accurate representation would be to only take into account the households that contain a parent, spoon and a pit bull. If the stats were collected in this way I'm willing to bet the gap would narrow.

Never heard of a lab killing anything. My Lab is the friendliest dog you will ever meet. A few people on GFY have met him and he wouldnt hurt a fly. I can do whatever I want to him and he will never even think about biting me.

Some dogs are plain evil and others aren't. Labs aren't, pit bulls are.

let me guess , you own a lab and not a pitbull.

LAB kills 2 month old baby

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/so...E9SLBF9QE53O1H

Officer Jason Willingham said Monday the baby was mauled by the Labrador at the boy's home and died at the scene.

I am a fan of pits, I can't wait to get one. I do want to bring up another point here. No not all owners that have pits attack are bad owners. Too often people get their animals from puppy mills which practice shady and unhealthy breeding of animals. If someone does not care about the animals and are just trying to make a quick buck they will breed agressive animals carelessly. If you want to own ANY large breed dog you have to make sure you have the time, room, patience and the willingness to make sure the animal you are getting come from a reputable breeder.

Owners also have to know their dog. Maybe they got the dog as a pup and raised it lovingly but the dog is aggressive anyway. Instead of thinking that even though the dog has aggressive tendancies they can control or train it out of them. If you have an animal that you have a fear "could" one day attack a stranger or another animal no matter how much you love them you need to have them put through an agressive test and if they fail PUT THEM DOWN before they hurt someone.

Perfect example my uncle owned a seafood store in a not so great part of town. He had the biggest rottie I have ever seen that lived at the store and slept there at night. She was the sweetest dog ever when you were "introduced " to her by someone she already knew. When she got on in years and it was time for her to be retired I begged my uncle to let me have her. He absolutely refused and looking back he was definitely right. Her whole training and life had been as a guard dog. I seriously doubted she would have ever turned on me but what if someone walked in the house that hadn't been introduced to her by how she had learned? She would have torn them to pieces.

ANY dog is capable of violence, as unbelievable as it seems. Anyone who owns animals and is not constantly watching them around small children are absolutely stupid and should either not have pets, not have children, or both.

I have heard of labs gone bad. Up north I have seen more than a few put down for aggressiveness. It really does happen, and even "non violent" breeds can become aggro given the right circumstances. They are dogs first, pets second.

Please tell me where you got this information... Link maybe?

WarChild is posting some great info for those with an open enough mind to actually read and maybe learn something new... But with the mean pitbull subject most people are simply blind to any form of fact. Fucking sad really, I hope you people don't run your business with the same closed minded approach... :Oh crap

:disgust

"Chocolate Lab kills elderly woman." http://www.dogflu.ca/05092006/14/wom...ter_dog_attack

Very correct, and very well put.

Maybe you need to pay attention. I NEVER said to ban them. I just said they are worthless peice of shit breed. No matter how good an owner is, you have a pretty high chance it will attack someone some time. Blame it on what you want, but they shouldnt be aloud to roam freely in our neighborhoods either. Its always someonelse getting hurt by these dogs and the ignorant owner ALWAYS say how great their dog was..blah blah blah... they should have to register these devils just like child violaters have to. They are too dangerous and uncontrollable.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00047723.htm

Scroll down to the first table. Stats from 1979-1996, pit bulls lead with 60, rottweilers in second place with 29, german shepherds in third place with 19.

Children are as likely to be bitten or mauled by smaller dogs.... They consider them "cute" and try to get up close, the proximity (and the fact that smaller dogs are more easily hurt when handled by uncaring hands) lends itself well to facial bites.

Now you're taking your own narrow experience and applying it as fact all the while ignoring the oppinions of people that have much more experience than you. Namely animal health care professionals.

I have 3 Rottweilers would also never bite me or anybody else. By your own standard I have just proven no Rottweilers are dangerous.

Then there's this, it took me 2 minutes to find these examples for you:

Now you've been educated.

so what?

See, you keep saying these things as if they were facts. They're not. It kind of reminds me of the same ignorant approach you take to politics. :2 cents:

Bullcrap. I have a friend who has 3 pits and 5 kids, and the pits obey the children as they do her. She has trained her dogs like DOGS and trained her kids to be the LEADERS OF DOGS and ANY dog no matter how big or small will not turn around and attack a pack leader for nothing, unless they are frustrated or lacking a release of energy. Or mistreated.

I've seen cats cause as many stitches as dogs in some cases, maybe they should be banned. ALL ANIMALS ARE CAPABLE OF HARM, and when you take a working, gladiator breed and put them in an environment with no rules, no limitations, and no clear leader (which is the kind of situation about 90% of dogs I've ever seen are in), they will follow their instinct and take over top job. That enables and empowers them to do whatever they see fit, as the "boss". Training dogs is not like training kids is not like training horses or cats or any other animal. If one does not understand how the natural psyche of an animal works, they can't even hope to begin to train it or to predict it's actions.

The difference between a cat or any other animal is the owner can most likely get the animal off the person attacked. A owner CAN NOT get a pit bull off the attacked. I know personally.

Let me guess, next you're going to tell us about their magical locking jaws, right?

ok point taken i will make it much simpler.. almost every person with a pitbull and a baby has a car, i'm sure there are no stats but i bet more than 2 pitbull owners children die per year in car accidents, so if we want to hate things because they end up higher on a statistical scale, we should hate cars or swimming pools more than pitbulls.

If you have children and own a pit bull and you leave them in the same room without supervision you = a bad parent. Period.

you have either seen EVERY pitbull attack that has ever existed or more likely you extrapolated your theory from 1 isolated attack you saw..


I haven't seen very many black people be arrested in front of me, infact probably only one , and the cop couldnt arrest the guy cuz he was huge .. therefor "cops CAN NOT arrest black people, i know personally"


I have seen alot of dog attacks of all different breeds, most owners are pretty stupid and can't control their dog.

Parents are more likely to kill a child than a pitbull , so there goes that theory.

BAN PARENTS !!!

OMG you actually stated a fact!!! Maybe there is hope for you yet... :thumbsup

I give up on this subject. I'll just stick to changing minds one at a time by letting people get to know my 85# teddy bear...

This is so fucked up...the parents shouldn't let the dogs near the children..

If you train your pitt the right way, he will never attack anyone :2 cents:

PS: i have two of them

Says the owner of said pet. :thumbsup

First of all you cannot ban parents and second you comparison is riddled with problems.
Have you ever taken into consideration that EVERY child has a parent, well you get the point.

wonder where is PETA when shit like this happens

Here is a couple of good top 10 lists.

http://www.dogpolitics.com/my_weblog..._most_dan.html

http://doggies.com/blog/2008/07/15/t...gressive-dogs/

Top 10 most aggressive dogs.
10. German Shepherd - I thought this one would be higher, because of their use in police work.

9. Border Collie - I can see this. They face off against sheep much larger than they are every day.

8. English Springer Spaniel

7. Beagle - This one surprised me. My beagle demonstrates every submission posture known to man.

6. Pit Bull - Popular legend has it that these dogs are the most aggressive, but I guess they really aren’t, if the study is on target.

5. Australian Cattle Dog

4. Akita - I had also heard these were dangerous dogs, like the pit bull.

3. Jack Russell Terrier

2. Chihuahua

1. Dachshund - one in five owners reported that their dachshund had tried to bite strangers, and one in 12 reported that their dachshund had tried to bite them!

That's a nice list and I don't dispute it.

Ask yourself this. Out of the 10 dogs on that list, if you had to face one that was attacking you, which one would you be the least afraid of and which one the most afraid of.

For me I could care less about 1. a Dachshund. I'd pick that thing up and tie it into a knot before it got a second bite.

My biggest concern would 6. a Pit Bull because of it's biting power and tenacity.