http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00047723.htm

Scroll down to the first table. Stats from 1979-1996, pit bulls lead with 60, rottweilers in second place with 29, german shepherds in third place with 19.

Children are as likely to be bitten or mauled by smaller dogs.... They consider them "cute" and try to get up close, the proximity (and the fact that smaller dogs are more easily hurt when handled by uncaring hands) lends itself well to facial bites.

Now you're taking your own narrow experience and applying it as fact all the while ignoring the oppinions of people that have much more experience than you. Namely animal health care professionals.

I have 3 Rottweilers would also never bite me or anybody else. By your own standard I have just proven no Rottweilers are dangerous.

Then there's this, it took me 2 minutes to find these examples for you:

Now you've been educated.

so what?

See, you keep saying these things as if they were facts. They're not. It kind of reminds me of the same ignorant approach you take to politics. :2 cents:

Bullcrap. I have a friend who has 3 pits and 5 kids, and the pits obey the children as they do her. She has trained her dogs like DOGS and trained her kids to be the LEADERS OF DOGS and ANY dog no matter how big or small will not turn around and attack a pack leader for nothing, unless they are frustrated or lacking a release of energy. Or mistreated.

I've seen cats cause as many stitches as dogs in some cases, maybe they should be banned. ALL ANIMALS ARE CAPABLE OF HARM, and when you take a working, gladiator breed and put them in an environment with no rules, no limitations, and no clear leader (which is the kind of situation about 90% of dogs I've ever seen are in), they will follow their instinct and take over top job. That enables and empowers them to do whatever they see fit, as the "boss". Training dogs is not like training kids is not like training horses or cats or any other animal. If one does not understand how the natural psyche of an animal works, they can't even hope to begin to train it or to predict it's actions.

The difference between a cat or any other animal is the owner can most likely get the animal off the person attacked. A owner CAN NOT get a pit bull off the attacked. I know personally.

Let me guess, next you're going to tell us about their magical locking jaws, right?

ok point taken i will make it much simpler.. almost every person with a pitbull and a baby has a car, i'm sure there are no stats but i bet more than 2 pitbull owners children die per year in car accidents, so if we want to hate things because they end up higher on a statistical scale, we should hate cars or swimming pools more than pitbulls.

If you have children and own a pit bull and you leave them in the same room without supervision you = a bad parent. Period.

you have either seen EVERY pitbull attack that has ever existed or more likely you extrapolated your theory from 1 isolated attack you saw..


I haven't seen very many black people be arrested in front of me, infact probably only one , and the cop couldnt arrest the guy cuz he was huge .. therefor "cops CAN NOT arrest black people, i know personally"


I have seen alot of dog attacks of all different breeds, most owners are pretty stupid and can't control their dog.

Parents are more likely to kill a child than a pitbull , so there goes that theory.

BAN PARENTS !!!

OMG you actually stated a fact!!! Maybe there is hope for you yet... :thumbsup

I give up on this subject. I'll just stick to changing minds one at a time by letting people get to know my 85# teddy bear...

This is so fucked up...the parents shouldn't let the dogs near the children..

If you train your pitt the right way, he will never attack anyone :2 cents:

PS: i have two of them

Says the owner of said pet. :thumbsup

First of all you cannot ban parents and second you comparison is riddled with problems.
Have you ever taken into consideration that EVERY child has a parent, well you get the point.

wonder where is PETA when shit like this happens

Here is a couple of good top 10 lists.

http://www.dogpolitics.com/my_weblog..._most_dan.html

http://doggies.com/blog/2008/07/15/t...gressive-dogs/

Top 10 most aggressive dogs.
10. German Shepherd - I thought this one would be higher, because of their use in police work.

9. Border Collie - I can see this. They face off against sheep much larger than they are every day.

8. English Springer Spaniel

7. Beagle - This one surprised me. My beagle demonstrates every submission posture known to man.

6. Pit Bull - Popular legend has it that these dogs are the most aggressive, but I guess they really aren’t, if the study is on target.

5. Australian Cattle Dog

4. Akita - I had also heard these were dangerous dogs, like the pit bull.

3. Jack Russell Terrier

2. Chihuahua

1. Dachshund - one in five owners reported that their dachshund had tried to bite strangers, and one in 12 reported that their dachshund had tried to bite them!

That's a nice list and I don't dispute it.

Ask yourself this. Out of the 10 dogs on that list, if you had to face one that was attacking you, which one would you be the least afraid of and which one the most afraid of.

For me I could care less about 1. a Dachshund. I'd pick that thing up and tie it into a knot before it got a second bite.

My biggest concern would 6. a Pit Bull because of it's biting power and tenacity.

If I was being going to be attacked I would be concerned about the Pit Bull, along with the Akita, Australian Cattle Dog and German Shepherd.

The least scary for an attack would be the Dachshund. I have heard that Chihuahua's do like to try and bite a lot. Not scary to me, but that would be scary to a child. :winkwink:

That was my point. The most aggressive on the list was the least threatening :winkwink:

An Akita coming at you would be scary too :helpme

There's a little old lady that has this HUGE, beautiful Akita that she walks over by my sister's house. The dog comes up to her shoulders in height so it makes the dog seem even bigger. Someday I'll get a picture of them walking down the sidewalk.

Great. My kids have an Aussie Cattle Dog, a JRT, and a Dachshund.

The only dog I've ever seen do a "death attack" was a Jack Russell..
Our Jack Russell went alpha on one of our shih tzus a while back... and literally sunk his teeth into the throat of the shih tzu.. and was trying to rip out his throat. The shih tzu spent the night in the ER...

Then when I pulled them apart.. the Jack Russell attacked me... taking out a half inch literal chunk of flesh from just above my elbow...

We started researching... and Jack Russells are terribly territorial... and there are lots of stories of Jack Russells killing house cats randomly... and things like that when their balls drop and they get all "alpha"...

We gave him to the ASPCA with a $100 donation... Told them he was extremely alpha.. and had attacked... They were going to put him under.. but the Vet at the ASPCA fell in love with him.. He's now a single household dog... who gets to go running in the park all the time..

So environment plays a huge part in a dog's actions.

Only one question out of curiosity. Why do so many pitbull owners give their dogs vicious sounding names?

that probably proves what he s talking about

Yeah I know. Irresponsible ownership. Totally.


Which I'm sure is the case in a LOT of dog attacks

exactly , so if they didnt have parents then there wouldn't be so many people killing their own kids :thumbsup

exactly , so if they didnt have parents then there wouldn't be so many people killing their own kids :thumbsup more kids would be saved, in my opinion less dead children is better, unless you disagree and enjoy seeing more kids killed :winkwink:

wow two scathing comebacks. LOL!

You'd be surprised how much damage a small dog can do. the problem is they are smaller so people tend to go down to their level, allowing their faces to be closer for mauling. Sure, Pitts are formidable dogs, but any animal that's being aggressive can do massive amounts of damage given the opportunity. Doesn't take long.

Jacks can be VERY aggro and they are almost always dominant. I knew a jack that was the boss of a pack of 14 dogs on a ranch I worked at.. the biggest being a great dane, and the others all dogs that were labs or bigger. They wouldn't mess with the Jack, he latched onto their throats and wouldn't let go.

id put my money on a german shephard.

i know ive told this story here before...but man....i like it..lol

i saw our dog when we were growing up rip the shit out of some terriers...big ones but not pit bulls...some kind of english bull or something....anyway, they had been a problem all summer....and had attacked me and my grandmother...everyone.

and honestly i think our dog knew about it.

so these two terriers chased after us, and caught my sister first...and bit her in the legs as she was running, she screamed as they actually drew blood and was a semi serious bite.

that scream brought our big ass german shephard out of her dog house in one motion...she broke her chain like it wasn't even there, she just ran right through it.
she was up the hill and past me in the time it took me to take just a few steps back towards my sister....and she just charged into the first dog at full speed and basically slammed it with her chest and the dog went flying....she stopped on the spot and turned on the other, and bit it in the rib cage as it was still sideways to her...she shredded it and it instantly did not want to be around anymore and decided to high tail it out of there.

then she turned on the other and fucked his world up until he could get away.

:)

other then that, i had never seen her show any kind of serious aggression ever...but man o man did she have it when she needed it.

so...yeah i think terriers are a problem dog, as they pop up all the time in the news...but i bet even a semi problem dog could be trained to behave if they were given a proper home.


dickheads who own powerful dogs should be charged when their dog goes ballistic
cause i think it is the owner