I quit reading at "Zango"

We have been giving demos all day and several very large companies from your industry just got on board. We contacted 10 of the biggest adult companies yesterday directly and as of right now 7 of them signed up and believe in this product.

This is what I expected. The majority of you would just talk about how it can't be done, while those who have a future in this industry will look at new products and will at least take the time to look at something new that will save their business.

Take a look at this thread. Of all of you people claiming it can not be done, only ONE OF YOU left their contact details to try to crack this. Not a single one of you left your details for a demo. Rather than see for yourself you post slanderous and uneducated comments. A pathetic group you are.

This is why you do not have a future in your industry. :2 cents:

Our product does work and we have been proving this all day long with demos in your industry alone. Mainstream is many steps ahead of you.

Enjoy your future.

From your Who's Who page:


"Hi, my names Jason. I got into this as a hobby running tgp's.
I am very interested in selling content. I work with a few girls, but not enough to get me the volume of quality content that one would need for a venture of the type currently."


It's for the best you stopped reading at Zango because you clearly are not the type of client we are looking for. I would be surprised if you are even full time in this business.

Sounds interesting, please contact us: admin AT lb-69.com

I am president of a reasonably successful adult company and interested in a demo.

lol at all of you that are falling for this...

Zango, I'm partnered with 1 giant company and 1 mid-sized.. many many sites of exclusive content... I'd like to see a demo. Contact info in my sig.. icq or email me please.

Well dont be surprised, cause i'm not.

I'm a small buisness owner, irl, but i'm far from unattched to whats going on here. Thanks for taking note.

Zango was the scorn of the industry before tubes took over. That dosent mean you are in the clear because you are not the number one asshole on the block anymore.

You can quote AWW pages all day and assume whatever you choose. Everybody here knows who you guys are.


Now, good luck with your product. I really do wish you all well. But knowing your past and what you are currently claiming you can do....... good luck.

Well this is an "Epic" thread for sure! :winkwink::thumbsup

I'm interested in hearing more about this
contact me at tom -- at -- cyberskymedia -- com


Thanks

tom

Is it better then http://www.mediahedge.com/ (powered by Philips) ?

Interesting turn in postings. It went from all shit-for-brains & haters to some heavy hitters who are looking to protect their content.

While I am somewhere closer to the "shit-for-brains" group, I do produce a ton of content (200+ scenes a year) and would like a demo as well.

thedwb --- at --- gmail --- com

Any of them actually going to come forward and say it so we know you're not just blowing smoke? So far this thread has been you you you...you're saying big companies are on board but have shown absolutely no proof of that.

Besides, I think the people that would be interested in cracking it would much rather crack it when customers are paying you for it so that it pisses off more people and ruins your parade. :)

Screen recording will always be an obstacle to DRM.

Do you have a test video?

I don't think i'll be able to hack it. but i bet i can record and upload it here within a matter of minutes.

As a not-yet-started 'mom and pop' operation (without the mom) I would be interested in this technology.

If it does in fact work as claimed... It should become the de-facto industry standard, adult and mainstream.

Being in the computer industry since 1984, as a programmer and on the hardware end of things, I do have my doubts, but you can't blame anyone for doubting a 'holy grail' claim.

but... hit me up, I would love to see a demo.

zangoholygrail @ gmail.com

i sincerely hope that what you say is true

P.S. Send me a demo to test:

siissi126 @ hotmail .com

BTW quick search on Zango and piracy brought me to this article - oh the irony!

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9112 881

Adware vendor Zango profits from pirated movies, says researcher

Zango argues that sites serving up The Dark Knight, other hits, are search sites

By Gregg Keizer

August 18, 2008 (Computerworld) Adware company Zango Inc. profits from copyright infringement, a Harvard University researcher charged today, after the company claimed that sites serving up links to pirated movies were operating within its rules when the sites pressed users to install Zango's software.

The sites, Movietvonline.com and Bestcinemaonline.com, list dozens of recent movies and popular TV shows, including the recent blockbuster The Dark Knight. That was the film that caught the eye of Chris Boyd, the director of malware research for FaceTime Communications Inc., who last week said he had spotted Zango installation prompts on both sites.

"They want you to agree to install Zango in order to view whole movies, some streamed on the movietvonline site from other sources, others in the form of broken up downloads hosted on file-downloading sites," said Boyd in a post to the FaceTime security blog last week.

"Here's a shot of what appears to be a badly made camcorder (complete with people talking and scrunching up paper in the background) streamed on the site," said Boyd, referring to a screenshot from a portion of The Dark Knight viewed via Movietvonline.com.

In a follow-up posting, Boyd reported finding identical Zango installation prompts on Bestcinemaonline.com, which also touts full-length movies. "I'm starting to wonder how many of these are actually out there," he said.

Zango has long been criticized by security and privacy advocates, who have charged that the company distributes adware ? software that pops up advertisements while a person is browsing ? using illegal methods. In 2006, Zango paid a $3 million fine to settle Federal Trade Commission charges that it used unfair and deceptive practices to download software to users' PCs.

When asked last week whether it approved of Movietvonline.com using pirated content to get users to install its software, the company said the site was breaking none of its rules. "We do not sponsor, [or] partner [with], any site hosting copyrighted streaming content," said company spokesman Steve Stratz in an e-mail. "In this case, [Movietvonline.com is] not actually hosting the content. We view services that don't actually host content as if they were a search engine. In this instance, this Web publisher is not violating our terms today."

According to Boyd, Movietvonline.com and other sites linking to pirated movies and TV programs that require Zango to be installed steer users to secondary sites such as Megavideo, or to offshore BitTorrent- and YouTube-esque sites hosted in China.

Stratz also acknowledged that Movietvonline.com currently receives revenue from Zango, which pays sites for each installation they obtain.

But noted antispyware researcher Ben Edelman, a lawyer and assistant professor at Harvard Business School, said Zango is also making money from the practice. "Zango is profiting directly from copyright infringement," said Edelman, who has tracked the company's moves for years, most recently in research he published in May that took Zango to task for, among other things, offering up copyrighted content on its own site.

Zango's revenues come from serving up the pop-up ads its software displays on users' computers.

That means Zango is not eligible for the "safe harbor" provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), said Edelman. "To claim safe harbor, a site cannot 'receive a financial benefit directly attributable to the infringing activity,' " Edelman said, reading from the statute.

"Google, for example, knows it would become ineligible for the DMCA Safe Harbor if it ran ads alongside copyrighted content on YouTube, because then Google would be profiting directly from the copyright infringement," Edelman continued. "That's why most have no ads."

Nor does Zango's explanation that Movietvonline.com acts as a search site hold water. "It doesn't look like a search site to users," Edelman argued. "The site puts itself out as offering the videos directly, not by linking."

Movie and television copyright holders would have a strong case against Zango if they wanted to pursue the matter, Edelman added. "It's just a question of how many they want to file," he said. "I think this would be a pretty good one to pursue, because Zango is profiting directly from the infringement."

This is the second time in the past three months that Zango has made the news. In June, the Bellevue, Wash.-based company, formerly known as 180solutions Inc., laid off nearly 70 employees, a third of its workforce.

Zango also remains locked in a legal battle with security company Kaspersky Lab, whose software blocks the adware company's programs from installing. Although Kaspersky won the first round of a Zango-filed lawsuit, Zango appealed the verdict to federal court last year. A decision on the appeal has not yet been handed down by the Ninth Circuit Court.

Anyone who believes that last bit is a fucking moron.

The main problem with tubes isn't that they take your content and give it away for free, it's that they give content away for free that competes with your paid content.

Most surfers don't particularly care whether they blow their load to "Assbanged Cumsluts 4" or to "Cumsluts get Assbanged 6". If they know a site with a very large amount of free content in the niches they desire, they will use that.

So, for DRM to be at least somewhat effective, virtually everyone needs to adopt it. Otherwise, there will still be plenty of pirated alternatives available.

But wait! It gets worse!

Even if all paysites had perfect DRM, tube sites could simply buy cheap, non-exclusive content - something that many are doing already. Even with a measly budget of only $10k, they could buy thousands of scenes. Enough to satisfy a sizable portion of surfers. Given a more realistic, higher budget, they can quite easily build a library of tens of thousands of scenes.

Here's the cold, hard truth: most of you aren't getting those tube site surfers back. Ever.

Of course, there are exceptions. If you have truly unique content that is of specific (rather than general) interest to the surfer, effective DRM will definitely help a great deal.

But Zango is rather unlikely to offer truly effective DRM. Instead, they'll probably scam the fuck out of a bunch of you gullible fools. It's Zango. They're scammers, remember? :disgust

Yes you do have shit for brains. :thumbsup

you should hire a sales rep and leave this board forever. They don't hate your idea / product, they hate Zango. :2 cents:

My solution is much more elegant. My encoding software secretly attaches hidden logic that is embedded into the electrons. When they detect a computer where they shouldn't be played they seek out all the other electrons they can find and convince them to stop working. Think of it like a union. This effectively cuts the power to the machine and makes it so the video can't be played. In addition, the electrons will flow back through the Internet to my server and let me know the SSN, street address, and IP of the owner of the computer.

This is a snake oil post, and this "magic" technology does not exist. If it does, then someone will steal the code, and begin knocking it off.

If you want to make up unbelievable stuff, just to see who falls for it, then you should make up a realistic (albeit fake) pricing scheme that is not so fucking stupid. Like $100 p/protected site, or $1 p/protected video, etc.

If someone can view an image, or watch a video on their computer screen, you can not stop anyone from copying it. IT CAN AND WILL BE COPIED.

Give us an update when you receive your first 4.5% profit split from Dreamworks films, or Viacom or Sony etc...

I'll be wearing my tinfoil hat and watching out for flying pigs in the meantime....

April fools!!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I think the logic here is wrong, and its a situation where once the cat is out of the bag, its out. No matter how many ppl you protect, there will always be a glutton of free content on the market and free alternatives. So even the ppl you protect, the ppl who are not protected will have the same impact on the ppl you protect.

So long as tube sites exist giving out content with ease, and legal content that they pay for, there will be someone who will opt for free instead of pay. The people with advanced pirating are already spoiled, there not all of a sudden going to go back and pay, they will change their likes and dislikes to mold around free, so your comments about not caring if people use it, and only the select few who use it are at a benefit, is in a way wrong. This is like a telephone network, the more ppl who use it, the less quality of free porn is out there, the more value for everyone who is signed on - there are clear network benefits. The adult business doesn't operate in a vacuum.

Now lets say the technology has value, nothing is crackable, everyone knows that, but lets say that it does make it more difficult for people to swap around, upload, etc. If it only protects you from downside, and not upside, theres value there, but not 4.5% of gross. No big company will give you that, unless they are desperate and making poor decisions imo. Too often I see technology companies overplay their hands, you should think about a monthly pricing option and sign up as many clients as possible or make it very affordable to score market share and scale up. Make it an easy decision vs a hard decision, in this scenario, for it to truly be successful, either you or the companies are going to have to make big concessions from your expectations. Chances are, its going to be you in order to reach the level of success you expect. Just my opinion. :2 cents:

I tried to download a demo and it wanted me to install some weird toolbar...

Ok, so your "client" DreamWorks total revenue was 4.5 billion last year

so they owe you 202 million for your "uncrackable" software?

Get the fuck outta here

Please name a DVD that is protected by this technology.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I've seen this argument a lot and I have to say I disagree with it.

Porn is a mostly disposable product, you view it once and look for something new. If you cut down the amount new material for the tube sites to steal, you put a big dent in what makes them so popular.

Go surf the big illegal tubes. There are constant reposts and the surfers complain in the comments. If there is so much available, why are they reposting? Believe it or not, they are running out of scenes.

What I am saying is tube sites could buy a ton of non exclusive content but it won't last forever, they will run out and surfers come back to the tubes for the new stuff. Once they run out they start to decline in their popularity.

Any DRM doesn't have to perfect and really only the big players need to sign up for it to work if you are looking to defeat the tubes. To stop file sharing it would take perfect DRM, but the tubes only need their supply cut off by a sizable amount. Over time the surfer will exhaust the content and start searching again in other places.

sooooo....

1) fail-filled april fools joke? (note original post date)
2) Lame attempt to get webmaster email addresses?
3) hasty retreat due to someone proving its easy crackability and not wanting to pay the 100K?
4) posting while drunk/high?
5) bitch-slapped by the boss?
6) ?


hmmmmmm.

yeah has anyone gotten a demo yet??? I doubt it... I didnt get an email from him..

so its bullshit.. stop bumping the thread already.

Yes, I got an email + demo ... two words, FUCKING WOW!!

Er, April 6th? Did April Fools Day become April Fools Week or something?

4.5% lol... as if

bossdvds, whats so fucking wow about it?

I'll still welcome a demo. If its for real, its a miracle because anything you can see on a screen can be ripped.. I'm open to them proving this wrong... could be a huge turning point for all industries.. less fresh exclusive content out there means better conversions for exclusive sites..

ok Zango where are ya? If the product proves to be groundbreaking without failure, my companies are game, but nevermind that, I would help resell it.. help drown the tubes.

I've tried to rip it, even with my camcorder ... no such luck. Currently buying into their technology ... MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT SOON

bossdvds, you and zango both have no contact info.. red flag?

someone send some contact info for Zango please.

I find it hard to believe you can not even rip it with a cam corder.

Though i am not knocking the product without knowing if it is true or not, as i say i just find it hard to believe,..

whats your email to contact you?

Whoever gets a demo, I will record it and prove this crap wrong.

I can't believe this thread is still alive ... you guys are sheep for entertaining the clown OP

2 pages and no demo/url yet? :1orglaugh

Upload a protected clip, let s have a go at cracking it. :)

It's looking like a bullshit post to me.

What if no one would believe YOU? What if its the biggest fail to come here with that nickname? Would it be dumm to play here the big guy and spit on every 'small' webmaster? Let me tell you something, with this kind of approach, arrogancy, without a single proof you turned out the biggest troll around. Notwithstanding you have the worst marketing skills ever. As couple of times it was mentioned before, and if you only had a little clue about things, would bear this in your mind, write it on your wall at home, learn it by head: " My dear fellow, this would be the internets. Welcome. On the internets, we be judges based on half a post and less than that. "

Youre being judged based on your previous acts, and now this one you did here, so dont be surprised, or are you?

Pardon me? Just think a little, affiliates will get lower payouts from the sponsors, they WILL charge the affiliates for their expenses, thats for sure, members will pay higher prices for the content, its a double execution actually, has nothing to do with raising profits.

:helpme ... me eyes hurt. sounds like a seed plot for epilepsy.

The one who cracks it in the end will care very little about the money you offered...
:2 cents:

Someone else can invent it for cheaper. :P

Shit, i never thought i would agree to one of your posts !
We got to stop the freeshit flying around. This is insane !
And no, i never used/worked with ZANGO

I'd still like to hear from even just one major media company that's currently looking into their technology as they claim. Just one. There's no reason another breath should be wasted on this BS until it's proven not to be BS.