And again, this is why you will fail. You are unable to see neither the now or the future. :2 cents:

Dreamworks, Sony, Warner Bros and several other of the TOP mainstream companies who could buy and sell you all day long, with legal teams and video experts that would make your head spin, all have it wrong. While you, the pornographer, the guy where nobody knows your name or your site, the guy who will be looking for a new line of work in about a year or less, has it all figured out. THAT is the mindset of the adult industry that I love. I believe the rest of the world calls it, delusions of grandeur. Classic stuff. Really.

4.5% of your gross, ok, lmao.

w/e your solution good luck but I bet it will be broken in less then a week tops, probably more like 24 hours.

We are not looking for "more customers." We are looking for large clients.

It is not in our or our clients interest for us to help every mom and pop shop online. The more of you who do not protect your content and fail, the better off our clients will be.

Those of you who can afford this and value your place in the industry, will pay for the service. Those of you who can't or won't, will continue on the current path of decline.

Your post makes it clear this is something you can not afford and the sig link tells me you don't even own or produce content. You are not someone we are looking for but thanks for bumping this thread.

In regards to cracking... considering it's been a year now with no cracks (since there is nothing to crack), you are wrong and have shown that not only can you not afford us and own no content, but you also can not read nor do you take the time to skim a thread before posting in it or you would have seen the answer to your "broken in a week" comment.

Then you should check your join forms while Zango toolbar is installed. Maybe you have less joins because they pop up a competitor's site, when a surfer tries to join on yours.

Using Zango to steal Ccbill join form traffic.
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/774597-using-zango-steal-ccbill-join-form-traffic.html
Hey ALL CCBILL SPONSORS - QUICKBUCK IS STEALING YOUR SIGNUPS
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/774606-hey-ccbill-sponsors-quickbuck-stealing-signups.html

ALL of the Dreamworks, Sony, Warner Bros videos are ripped from dvd in 12 hrs after it's appear in a retail store or not? So what we are talking about?

Oh just some for the records of the good ol' times:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...ftc_zango.html
Zango Will Pay $3 Million to Settle Fraud Charges

Wow... just wow people, I can't believe you're DOUBTING this guy's claims.

There is absolutely, positively no way this can be achieved, if you can see it, you can rip it, a digital/analog/digital conversion is all it takes.

The fact that you're being played by 'zango' (infamous for spyware/adware on both adult and mainsrtream) makes the whole thing a lot more funny.

Macrovision can't protect content, big ass movie studios neither, what makes you think a character on a porn board can achieve it? Is it the fantasy to see an underdog succeed where big conglomerates can't, a hero with a breaktrough invention? oh please...

It might just be a boneprone-style prank.

That being said, i'm wiling to crack your system, send the details to [email protected]

We are not a porn company. The porn industry chose to use us. We are mainstream, always have been.

Those "big ass movie studios" you speak of could not protect their own content and neither could you. What we were able to do was think outside the box and find something very, very simple that everyone, and I mean everyone, was overlooking, and turn it into something that you personally could have been responsible for had you opened your mind for a minute on this issue.

It can be done, it was done and it is being done right now.


I'll make sure someone from our team contacts you. Please post your results in this thread.

No chance this will work.

I quit reading at "Zango"

We have been giving demos all day and several very large companies from your industry just got on board. We contacted 10 of the biggest adult companies yesterday directly and as of right now 7 of them signed up and believe in this product.

This is what I expected. The majority of you would just talk about how it can't be done, while those who have a future in this industry will look at new products and will at least take the time to look at something new that will save their business.

Take a look at this thread. Of all of you people claiming it can not be done, only ONE OF YOU left their contact details to try to crack this. Not a single one of you left your details for a demo. Rather than see for yourself you post slanderous and uneducated comments. A pathetic group you are.

This is why you do not have a future in your industry. :2 cents:

Our product does work and we have been proving this all day long with demos in your industry alone. Mainstream is many steps ahead of you.

Enjoy your future.

From your Who's Who page:


"Hi, my names Jason. I got into this as a hobby running tgp's.
I am very interested in selling content. I work with a few girls, but not enough to get me the volume of quality content that one would need for a venture of the type currently."


It's for the best you stopped reading at Zango because you clearly are not the type of client we are looking for. I would be surprised if you are even full time in this business.

Sounds interesting, please contact us: admin AT lb-69.com

I am president of a reasonably successful adult company and interested in a demo.

lol at all of you that are falling for this...

Zango, I'm partnered with 1 giant company and 1 mid-sized.. many many sites of exclusive content... I'd like to see a demo. Contact info in my sig.. icq or email me please.

Well dont be surprised, cause i'm not.

I'm a small buisness owner, irl, but i'm far from unattched to whats going on here. Thanks for taking note.

Zango was the scorn of the industry before tubes took over. That dosent mean you are in the clear because you are not the number one asshole on the block anymore.

You can quote AWW pages all day and assume whatever you choose. Everybody here knows who you guys are.


Now, good luck with your product. I really do wish you all well. But knowing your past and what you are currently claiming you can do....... good luck.

Well this is an "Epic" thread for sure! :winkwink::thumbsup

I'm interested in hearing more about this
contact me at tom -- at -- cyberskymedia -- com


Thanks

tom

Is it better then http://www.mediahedge.com/ (powered by Philips) ?

Interesting turn in postings. It went from all shit-for-brains & haters to some heavy hitters who are looking to protect their content.

While I am somewhere closer to the "shit-for-brains" group, I do produce a ton of content (200+ scenes a year) and would like a demo as well.

thedwb --- at --- gmail --- com

Any of them actually going to come forward and say it so we know you're not just blowing smoke? So far this thread has been you you you...you're saying big companies are on board but have shown absolutely no proof of that.

Besides, I think the people that would be interested in cracking it would much rather crack it when customers are paying you for it so that it pisses off more people and ruins your parade. :)

Screen recording will always be an obstacle to DRM.

Do you have a test video?

I don't think i'll be able to hack it. but i bet i can record and upload it here within a matter of minutes.

As a not-yet-started 'mom and pop' operation (without the mom) I would be interested in this technology.

If it does in fact work as claimed... It should become the de-facto industry standard, adult and mainstream.

Being in the computer industry since 1984, as a programmer and on the hardware end of things, I do have my doubts, but you can't blame anyone for doubting a 'holy grail' claim.

but... hit me up, I would love to see a demo.

zangoholygrail @ gmail.com

i sincerely hope that what you say is true

P.S. Send me a demo to test:

siissi126 @ hotmail .com

BTW quick search on Zango and piracy brought me to this article - oh the irony!

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9112 881

Adware vendor Zango profits from pirated movies, says researcher

Zango argues that sites serving up The Dark Knight, other hits, are search sites

By Gregg Keizer

August 18, 2008 (Computerworld) Adware company Zango Inc. profits from copyright infringement, a Harvard University researcher charged today, after the company claimed that sites serving up links to pirated movies were operating within its rules when the sites pressed users to install Zango's software.

The sites, Movietvonline.com and Bestcinemaonline.com, list dozens of recent movies and popular TV shows, including the recent blockbuster The Dark Knight. That was the film that caught the eye of Chris Boyd, the director of malware research for FaceTime Communications Inc., who last week said he had spotted Zango installation prompts on both sites.

"They want you to agree to install Zango in order to view whole movies, some streamed on the movietvonline site from other sources, others in the form of broken up downloads hosted on file-downloading sites," said Boyd in a post to the FaceTime security blog last week.

"Here's a shot of what appears to be a badly made camcorder (complete with people talking and scrunching up paper in the background) streamed on the site," said Boyd, referring to a screenshot from a portion of The Dark Knight viewed via Movietvonline.com.

In a follow-up posting, Boyd reported finding identical Zango installation prompts on Bestcinemaonline.com, which also touts full-length movies. "I'm starting to wonder how many of these are actually out there," he said.

Zango has long been criticized by security and privacy advocates, who have charged that the company distributes adware ? software that pops up advertisements while a person is browsing ? using illegal methods. In 2006, Zango paid a $3 million fine to settle Federal Trade Commission charges that it used unfair and deceptive practices to download software to users' PCs.

When asked last week whether it approved of Movietvonline.com using pirated content to get users to install its software, the company said the site was breaking none of its rules. "We do not sponsor, [or] partner [with], any site hosting copyrighted streaming content," said company spokesman Steve Stratz in an e-mail. "In this case, [Movietvonline.com is] not actually hosting the content. We view services that don't actually host content as if they were a search engine. In this instance, this Web publisher is not violating our terms today."

According to Boyd, Movietvonline.com and other sites linking to pirated movies and TV programs that require Zango to be installed steer users to secondary sites such as Megavideo, or to offshore BitTorrent- and YouTube-esque sites hosted in China.

Stratz also acknowledged that Movietvonline.com currently receives revenue from Zango, which pays sites for each installation they obtain.

But noted antispyware researcher Ben Edelman, a lawyer and assistant professor at Harvard Business School, said Zango is also making money from the practice. "Zango is profiting directly from copyright infringement," said Edelman, who has tracked the company's moves for years, most recently in research he published in May that took Zango to task for, among other things, offering up copyrighted content on its own site.

Zango's revenues come from serving up the pop-up ads its software displays on users' computers.

That means Zango is not eligible for the "safe harbor" provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), said Edelman. "To claim safe harbor, a site cannot 'receive a financial benefit directly attributable to the infringing activity,' " Edelman said, reading from the statute.

"Google, for example, knows it would become ineligible for the DMCA Safe Harbor if it ran ads alongside copyrighted content on YouTube, because then Google would be profiting directly from the copyright infringement," Edelman continued. "That's why most have no ads."

Nor does Zango's explanation that Movietvonline.com acts as a search site hold water. "It doesn't look like a search site to users," Edelman argued. "The site puts itself out as offering the videos directly, not by linking."

Movie and television copyright holders would have a strong case against Zango if they wanted to pursue the matter, Edelman added. "It's just a question of how many they want to file," he said. "I think this would be a pretty good one to pursue, because Zango is profiting directly from the infringement."

This is the second time in the past three months that Zango has made the news. In June, the Bellevue, Wash.-based company, formerly known as 180solutions Inc., laid off nearly 70 employees, a third of its workforce.

Zango also remains locked in a legal battle with security company Kaspersky Lab, whose software blocks the adware company's programs from installing. Although Kaspersky won the first round of a Zango-filed lawsuit, Zango appealed the verdict to federal court last year. A decision on the appeal has not yet been handed down by the Ninth Circuit Court.

Anyone who believes that last bit is a fucking moron.

The main problem with tubes isn't that they take your content and give it away for free, it's that they give content away for free that competes with your paid content.

Most surfers don't particularly care whether they blow their load to "Assbanged Cumsluts 4" or to "Cumsluts get Assbanged 6". If they know a site with a very large amount of free content in the niches they desire, they will use that.

So, for DRM to be at least somewhat effective, virtually everyone needs to adopt it. Otherwise, there will still be plenty of pirated alternatives available.

But wait! It gets worse!

Even if all paysites had perfect DRM, tube sites could simply buy cheap, non-exclusive content - something that many are doing already. Even with a measly budget of only $10k, they could buy thousands of scenes. Enough to satisfy a sizable portion of surfers. Given a more realistic, higher budget, they can quite easily build a library of tens of thousands of scenes.

Here's the cold, hard truth: most of you aren't getting those tube site surfers back. Ever.

Of course, there are exceptions. If you have truly unique content that is of specific (rather than general) interest to the surfer, effective DRM will definitely help a great deal.

But Zango is rather unlikely to offer truly effective DRM. Instead, they'll probably scam the fuck out of a bunch of you gullible fools. It's Zango. They're scammers, remember? :disgust

Yes you do have shit for brains. :thumbsup

you should hire a sales rep and leave this board forever. They don't hate your idea / product, they hate Zango. :2 cents:

My solution is much more elegant. My encoding software secretly attaches hidden logic that is embedded into the electrons. When they detect a computer where they shouldn't be played they seek out all the other electrons they can find and convince them to stop working. Think of it like a union. This effectively cuts the power to the machine and makes it so the video can't be played. In addition, the electrons will flow back through the Internet to my server and let me know the SSN, street address, and IP of the owner of the computer.

This is a snake oil post, and this "magic" technology does not exist. If it does, then someone will steal the code, and begin knocking it off.

If you want to make up unbelievable stuff, just to see who falls for it, then you should make up a realistic (albeit fake) pricing scheme that is not so fucking stupid. Like $100 p/protected site, or $1 p/protected video, etc.

If someone can view an image, or watch a video on their computer screen, you can not stop anyone from copying it. IT CAN AND WILL BE COPIED.

Give us an update when you receive your first 4.5% profit split from Dreamworks films, or Viacom or Sony etc...

I'll be wearing my tinfoil hat and watching out for flying pigs in the meantime....

April fools!!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I think the logic here is wrong, and its a situation where once the cat is out of the bag, its out. No matter how many ppl you protect, there will always be a glutton of free content on the market and free alternatives. So even the ppl you protect, the ppl who are not protected will have the same impact on the ppl you protect.

So long as tube sites exist giving out content with ease, and legal content that they pay for, there will be someone who will opt for free instead of pay. The people with advanced pirating are already spoiled, there not all of a sudden going to go back and pay, they will change their likes and dislikes to mold around free, so your comments about not caring if people use it, and only the select few who use it are at a benefit, is in a way wrong. This is like a telephone network, the more ppl who use it, the less quality of free porn is out there, the more value for everyone who is signed on - there are clear network benefits. The adult business doesn't operate in a vacuum.

Now lets say the technology has value, nothing is crackable, everyone knows that, but lets say that it does make it more difficult for people to swap around, upload, etc. If it only protects you from downside, and not upside, theres value there, but not 4.5% of gross. No big company will give you that, unless they are desperate and making poor decisions imo. Too often I see technology companies overplay their hands, you should think about a monthly pricing option and sign up as many clients as possible or make it very affordable to score market share and scale up. Make it an easy decision vs a hard decision, in this scenario, for it to truly be successful, either you or the companies are going to have to make big concessions from your expectations. Chances are, its going to be you in order to reach the level of success you expect. Just my opinion. :2 cents:

I tried to download a demo and it wanted me to install some weird toolbar...

Ok, so your "client" DreamWorks total revenue was 4.5 billion last year

so they owe you 202 million for your "uncrackable" software?

Get the fuck outta here

Please name a DVD that is protected by this technology.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh