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mynameisjim 04-07-2009 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 15718847)
Anyone who believes that last bit is a fucking moron.

The main problem with tubes isn't that they take your content and give it away for free, it's that they give content away for free that competes with your paid content.

Most surfers don't particularly care whether they blow their load to "Assbanged Cumsluts 4" or to "Cumsluts get Assbanged 6". If they know a site with a very large amount of free content in the niches they desire, they will use that.

So, for DRM to be at least somewhat effective, virtually everyone needs to adopt it. Otherwise, there will still be plenty of pirated alternatives available.

But wait! It gets worse!

Even if all paysites had perfect DRM, tube sites could simply buy cheap, non-exclusive content - something that many are doing already. Even with a measly budget of only $10k, they could buy thousands of scenes. Enough to satisfy a sizable portion of surfers. Given a more realistic, higher budget, they can quite easily build a library of tens of thousands of scenes.

I've seen this argument a lot and I have to say I disagree with it.

Porn is a mostly disposable product, you view it once and look for something new. If you cut down the amount new material for the tube sites to steal, you put a big dent in what makes them so popular.

Go surf the big illegal tubes. There are constant reposts and the surfers complain in the comments. If there is so much available, why are they reposting? Believe it or not, they are running out of scenes.

What I am saying is tube sites could buy a ton of non exclusive content but it won't last forever, they will run out and surfers come back to the tubes for the new stuff. Once they run out they start to decline in their popularity.

Any DRM doesn't have to perfect and really only the big players need to sign up for it to work if you are looking to defeat the tubes. To stop file sharing it would take perfect DRM, but the tubes only need their supply cut off by a sizable amount. Over time the surfer will exhaust the content and start searching again in other places.

CrkMStanz 04-09-2009 02:12 PM

sooooo....

1) fail-filled april fools joke? (note original post date)
2) Lame attempt to get webmaster email addresses?
3) hasty retreat due to someone proving its easy crackability and not wanting to pay the 100K?
4) posting while drunk/high?
5) bitch-slapped by the boss?
6) ?


hmmmmmm.

Adam X 04-09-2009 02:35 PM

yeah has anyone gotten a demo yet??? I doubt it... I didnt get an email from him..

so its bullshit.. stop bumping the thread already.

BossDVDs 04-09-2009 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam X (Post 15727337)
yeah has anyone gotten a demo yet??? I doubt it... I didnt get an email from him..

so its bullshit.. stop bumping the thread already.

Yes, I got an email + demo ... two words, FUCKING WOW!!

PornMD 04-09-2009 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrkMStanz (Post 15727241)
sooooo....

1) fail-filled april fools joke? (note original post date)

Er, April 6th? Did April Fools Day become April Fools Week or something?

biskoppen 04-09-2009 03:34 PM

4.5% lol... as if

Adam X 04-09-2009 04:31 PM

bossdvds, whats so fucking wow about it?

I'll still welcome a demo. If its for real, its a miracle because anything you can see on a screen can be ripped.. I'm open to them proving this wrong... could be a huge turning point for all industries.. less fresh exclusive content out there means better conversions for exclusive sites..

ok Zango where are ya? If the product proves to be groundbreaking without failure, my companies are game, but nevermind that, I would help resell it.. help drown the tubes.

BossDVDs 04-09-2009 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam X (Post 15727814)
bossdvds, whats so fucking wow about it?

I'll still welcome a demo. If its for real, its a miracle because anything you can see on a screen can be ripped.. I'm open to them proving this wrong... could be a huge turning point for all industries.. less fresh exclusive content out there means better conversions for exclusive sites..

ok Zango where are ya? If the product proves to be groundbreaking without failure, my companies are game, but nevermind that, I would help resell it.. help drown the tubes.

I've tried to rip it, even with my camcorder ... no such luck. Currently buying into their technology ... MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT SOON

Adam X 04-09-2009 05:06 PM

bossdvds, you and zango both have no contact info.. red flag?

someone send some contact info for Zango please.

XX_RydeR 04-10-2009 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossDVDs (Post 15727869)
I've tried to rip it, even with my camcorder ... no such luck. Currently buying into their technology ... MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT SOON

I find it hard to believe you can not even rip it with a cam corder.

Though i am not knocking the product without knowing if it is true or not, as i say i just find it hard to believe,..

fris 04-10-2009 07:51 AM

whats your email to contact you?

Si 04-10-2009 07:55 AM

Whoever gets a demo, I will record it and prove this crap wrong.

BossDVDs 04-10-2009 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XX_RydeR (Post 15729718)
I find it hard to believe you can not even rip it with a cam corder.

Though i am not knocking the product without knowing if it is true or not, as i say i just find it hard to believe,..

I can't believe this thread is still alive ... you guys are sheep for entertaining the clown OP

woj 04-10-2009 08:04 AM

2 pages and no demo/url yet? :1orglaugh

Sam Granger 04-10-2009 08:05 AM

Upload a protected clip, let s have a go at cracking it. :)

Si 04-10-2009 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 15729768)
2 pages and no demo/url yet? :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Granger (Post 15729773)
Upload a protected clip, let s have a go at cracking it. :)

It's looking like a bullshit post to me.

l0lf4c3 04-10-2009 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zango (Post 15714795)
What if I were to tell you that we have created an encrypted content tagging system (ECTS - patent pending) that will stop your videos from being copied, recorded or uploaded to any website, bit torrent, message board or news group?

What if no one would believe YOU? What if its the biggest fail to come here with that nickname? Would it be dumm to play here the big guy and spit on every 'small' webmaster? Let me tell you something, with this kind of approach, arrogancy, without a single proof you turned out the biggest troll around. Notwithstanding you have the worst marketing skills ever. As couple of times it was mentioned before, and if you only had a little clue about things, would bear this in your mind, write it on your wall at home, learn it by head: " My dear fellow, this would be the internets. Welcome. On the internets, we be judges based on half a post and less than that. "

Youre being judged based on your previous acts, and now this one you did here, so dont be surprised, or are you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zango (Post 15714795)
and all we ask in return is 4.5% of your gross

Pardon me? Just think a little, affiliates will get lower payouts from the sponsors, they WILL charge the affiliates for their expenses, thats for sure, members will pay higher prices for the content, its a double execution actually, has nothing to do with raising profits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zango (Post 15714831)
It can not be recorded via video camera. The tagging system displaces bursts of white lines on the video that can not be seen by the naked eye.

:helpme ... me eyes hurt. sounds like a seed plot for epilepsy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zango (Post 15714831)
We don't believe this to be hackable. We have offered 100k over the past year in the hacking world for anyone who could hack this and so far nobody has even come close.

The one who cracks it in the end will care very little about the money you offered...
:2 cents:

LadyMischief 04-10-2009 08:35 AM

Someone else can invent it for cheaper. :P

Fabien 04-10-2009 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zango (Post 15714937)
I'm sorry to inform you that your entire industry is going to "fail" very soon unless action is taken right now, and it is mindsets like yours that will speed it along.

If you are unable or unwilling to adapt because your simple mind will not allow it, please get out of the way for those who want to succeed or you very well may get trampled.

Shit, i never thought i would agree to one of your posts !
We got to stop the freeshit flying around. This is insane !
And no, i never used/worked with ZANGO

PornMD 04-10-2009 09:14 AM

I'd still like to hear from even just one major media company that's currently looking into their technology as they claim. Just one. There's no reason another breath should be wasted on this BS until it's proven not to be BS.

SpicyM 04-10-2009 09:19 AM

This thread is funny just in the same way as when the guy from the "new" ibill started posting here again and doing business just like nothing had happened.. now we have a guy from zango doing the same :)

When I first saw you posting I thought your nick is a joke.. but now I am shocked you really represent a company that was a #1 dry fuck for this business 2 years ago.. yet you have the balls to post here. You guys should probably check out the other well known WM board and see, its filled with posts about them stealing sales.

Anyway, if this is still true it is going to fail either because:

1. you are going to be paid fucking % fom our profit (even if this protection wont help us to gain $$)
2. because you support big companies and not average webmasters
3. because you are a company of thieves selling a product protecting us from theft LOL

MIS 04-10-2009 09:54 AM

Most of you guys in this industry are fucking dumb, even the ones that making millions are going to soon go work at McDonalds.

Zango is a leader in many aspects of business you uneducated assholes, and they are giving you a solution with facts.. You either need it, or you don't... If you don't think you need it, don't start a thread on here a year from now asking if anyone has a job for you..

LOL man, you guys are funny

SpicyM 04-10-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIS (Post 15730060)
Most of you guys in this industry are fucking dumb, even the ones that making millions are going to soon go work at McDonalds.

Zango is a leader in many aspects of business you uneducated assholes, and they are giving you a solution with facts..


"Fact #6: Boycott all business relationships with websites and sponsors that employ bad practices which damage the consumer base for our industry."

sorry but your are the dumb guy here

MIS 04-10-2009 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15730086)
"Fact #6: Boycott all business relationships with websites and sponsors that employ bad practices which damage the consumer base for our industry."

sorry but your are the dumb guy here

What does Zango do that is bad? You cannot judge a company based on what they have done in the past, because we have some successful companies in adult business who used to be rapists, child molestors, etc... Are you going to stop working with people based on their past? They are comming with a solution to you, this solution will help you out, not destroy your industry. He is not asking you to promote his 20 cross sales website, he is looking to protect your ass from future damages.

Who is the dumb one here?

Ozarkz 04-10-2009 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIS (Post 15730104)
What does Zango do that is bad? You cannot judge a company based on what they have done in the past, because we have some successful companies in adult business who used to be rapists, child molestors, etc... Are you going to stop working with people based on their past? They are comming with a solution to you, this solution will help you out, not destroy your industry. He is not asking you to promote his 20 cross sales website, he is looking to protect your ass from future damages.

Who is the dumb one here?

:1orglaugh

Where's Warchild?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
Just shut the fuck up.


Raf1 04-10-2009 10:22 AM

interesting read. This thread is going to be quite long...

paymeback 04-10-2009 10:39 AM

Wasn't someone saying just the other day that zangocash has gone and isn't paying webmaster? zangocash.com is down also

SpicyM 04-10-2009 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paymeback (Post 15730225)
Wasn't someone saying just the other day that zangocash has gone and isn't paying webmaster? zangocash.com is down also


I thought adult alchemy is gone as well :1orglaugh

Pleasurepays 04-10-2009 10:55 AM

you mean... an end to tubes for people who can't fill a tube with 15,000 videos from ripped/merged FHGs and then license out another 1000 or so full dvds?

paymeback 04-10-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15730260)
I thought adult alchemy is gone as well :1orglaugh

Cant really compare the two, but yer they are gone cbf changing my sig :upsidedow

Quagmire 04-10-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIS (Post 15730060)
Most of you guys in this industry are fucking dumb, even the ones that making millions are going to soon go work at McDonalds.

Zango is a leader in many aspects of business you uneducated assholes, and they are giving you a solution with facts.. You either need it, or you don't... If you don't think you need it, don't start a thread on here a year from now asking if anyone has a job for you..

LOL man, you guys are funny

Facts? What facts? I saw claims that look a lot like smoke and mirrors and not a single shred of proof that they are going to be able to do what the asshat claims.

I find it very suspect that a company with the technology they claim to have created isn't shouting from the roof tops and handing out demos left, right and center. No, they have some douchebag making claims on an adult webmaster board.

They're willing to hand over stuff to 'real hackers' to try and hack for $100k, but won't post a link to an example here? Riiiiiiight.

Robbie 04-10-2009 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIS (Post 15730104)
we have some successful companies in adult business who used to be rapists, child molestors, etc...

Wow. And who would these people be? "rapists, child mosestors"
Are you even in this business? Or just another mystery millionaire?

2012 04-10-2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIS (Post 15730104)
What does Zango do that is bad? You cannot judge a company based on what they have done in the past, because we have some successful companies in adult business who used to be rapists, child molestors, etc... Are you going to stop working with people based on their past? They are comming with a solution to you, this solution will help you out, not destroy your industry. He is not asking you to promote his 20 cross sales website, he is looking to protect your ass from future damages.

Who is the dumb one here?

would you like a cockmeat sandwich ?

evie 04-10-2009 01:36 PM

Yeah it would be great idea, but I have to agree with most of the people here that if you have this program there is also somebody who all ready trying to cruck it.

I do not undestand these people, but I guess that they just do not have any other interest than try cracking systems, sending viruses.

But agree that it is problem not only for porn but also film and music.

jmcb420 04-10-2009 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIS (Post 15730104)
What does Zango do that is bad? You cannot judge a company based on what they have done in the past, because we have some successful companies in adult business who used to be rapists, child molestors, etc... Are you going to stop working with people based on their past? They are comming with a solution to you, this solution will help you out, not destroy your industry. He is not asking you to promote his 20 cross sales website, he is looking to protect your ass from future damages.

Who is the dumb one here?

The answer to you last question is so obvious it hurts, so i'm not gonna tell you.

The fact is that you CAN judge a company on what they've done in the past.

Please point out who amongst us are former "rapists, child molestors, etc" cause I would sure as hell like to know, as i'm sure the rest of us would.

Adam X 04-10-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossDVDs (Post 15729758)
I can't believe this thread is still alive ... you guys are sheep for entertaining the clown OP


So you lied about getting a demo..........!! wtf loser...

BossDVDs 04-10-2009 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam X (Post 15730774)
So you lied about getting a demo..........!! wtf loser...

You mean you actually believed this thread for more than the .002 seconds it took your brain to process it?????? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

LOL wowww, that's too funny!

What's next?? "Hey!" ... (holds back the laughter) ... "There's a spaceshuttle that will take you to the sun & back in 16 minutes" ... "anyone want a demo?" ... BAHAHAHA

(from the grazing fields the heads look up)

Adam X: "Pick me, pick me!!!"

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Pleasurepays 04-10-2009 02:12 PM

So... uhm... the company thats been repeatedly slammed and fined by the FTC for their uninstallable malware, that tricks kids into installing shit on computers that at various points couldn't even be uninstalled ... the company thats responsible for a system that enables others to steal your traffic... is now going to protect you for a piece of your traffic/sales?

really?

are you people fucking retarded?

Adam X 04-10-2009 02:17 PM

bossdvds GFY... and yer "lets see whos time I can continue wasting" post
... you and zango are the same person most likely.. both with ZERO contact info.

he hasnt responded with demo info for anyone anyway..

and no matter what, any video can still be ripped.. I thought I'd humor him like many others here did.. ya never know with technology

hey the P4 encryption DirectTV put out was never cracked/released.. if you keep up with satellite tech.. and its been years.. so there are coders out there that can stay ahead of the hackers..

HeavenLeeGoddess 04-10-2009 08:49 PM

lol @ this thread


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