1-28-09

Hi Zuzana, looks great! I just sent you $250, i'll send the remaining $500 on monday and then you can send me the zip files, my epass is completely tapped right now. thanks! ET

damn... well that sucks

oh wow, that sucks girl!

Thanks hun, I forgot all about him until I ran into that thread tonight..
He is bitching about getting ripped off on this board and he is ripping people off on this board !!!

its craigslist spam that is super tricky at points. I bet the traffic doesnt retain quite as well as more reputable sources. And if they arent making money off your traffic why would they continue to lose out with pps. Like sharky said they are running a business not an auto company or a bank heh

Looks like Craigspimp has magically disappeared.

Pay Zuzanna her $500. :disgust

More like, busy spamming CL for the supper hour.

Couldn't resist....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...hrisHanson.png

Whoa. Wait a second.

You mean to tell me that he came here to bitch about not getting paid, and this become a reverse drama thread about him not paying Zuzana?

That's got suck to get owned like this in your own thread.

Hopefully this is over..:2 cents:

This thread took a twist :)

Always smooth sailing with PimpMansion and VS.

I'd like to know when this guy is going to pay Sarah though.

oh snap :uhoh

DAMN! :error

Not true. I paid $900 of a $1400 job for my new dating site called LoveRanger.

Sorry Zuzana, and it's nothing personal, but I'm not happy with the design. That's just how it goes. I paid $900 for a design I didn't use. So I'm out $900 and you didn't get an extra $500. Who do you think is worse off?

Probably my fault for going with a 'discount' designer in the first place. I scrapped the entire design by Sarah/Zuzana for which we agreed $1400 and I paid $900 of that. And with nothing to show for it at all.

I'm having my dating site redesigned by a top-notch design firm for $5k so at least I can get the right look for the site.

I shopped Sarah's design to everyone on my team and they all agreed it was pretty poor. I can post screenshots of the two and you decide.

if the milk turns out to be sour, i aint the kind of pussy to drink it

worth $1400 or not? you decide

http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/steven/...ger/preview/3/

well, if i was running a dating site affiliate program (which i soon will be) and an affiliate was bringing high volume but low member value relative to pay-per-sale, i would contact that affiliate and let them know what's happening.

For example, if my traffic is only bringing, say, a $40 member value over time and I'm getting $50/sale, then of course this is something that needs to be addressed.

As an affiliate manager, would you:

1. withhold payout and ignore the affiliate (what pimpmansion does)

2. contact the affiliate to inform him of the situation, and propose an alternative (such as a lower payout)

I would certainly opt for strategy #2. It's the only sensible arrangement where both parties can make money.

But oh wait .. roger and the gang are too busy playing golf to even bother thinking about how to make bank.

And that's what *REALLY* bugs me about fucking pimpmansion .. they have a site that converts pretty well, but they put absolutely no effort into running a tight ship.

I guess that's why they all use made-up names from cartoons and play golf all day, instead of learning how to run an affiliate program.

I have numerous emails from you specifically saying "I love it! Looks great!"
In fact, you had me do one design and said you "loved it" and then a week later said your programmers wanted a different color even though you already approved the design. So I changed the colors and logo for you and your response was "Hi Zuzana, looks great! I just sent you $250, I'll send the remaining $500 on monday and then you can send me the zip files, my epass is completely tapped right now. thanks! ET"...that was almost 3 months ago and I haven't heard a peep from you. You've never shown any attempt to say you didn't like it (unless saying you loved it had some hidden meaning I've never heard of)

Since when does someone exclaim happiness and promise final payment when they are not happy? I've left you emails, ICQ's and I've left messages on the phone number provided by your domain whois, all of which were completely ignored. As you know I do changes until my clients are 100% happy, so I highly doubt that is what is happening here, especially considering your joy at the outcome of the design. I've found numerous threads from other boards, and posts on craigslist about you doing this to designers. Your unprofessionalism doesn't excuse the fact that you hired me for a job, approved and "loved" the design and then didn't hold up your end of the bargain to pay for it.

Zuzana

Sorry you got involved with this guy. We'll make it right. Send me your epass and I'll send you the 500$.

if i like it so much why didnt i pay the remaining $500 balance on a $1400 job and use the design, instead of paying another $5k to have a professional design firm give me something more appropriate?

and yes, you're right .. i thought it was ok, but i don't know shit. I shopped the design to everyone in my company and they all rejected it, almost with 100% agreement, that it did not conform to the specs I sent you (web 2.0 simple style), and that it was not the right color scheme and layout for the site.

As for you redesigning it, well, you've either got the skillz or you don't. I know your speciality is adult and this was supposed to be a web 2.0 dating site, so maybe it's just not in your repertoire to design this kind of site. I'll post screenshots of the new design once it's finished, and you can see what i mean.

That was the very first jpg preview not done in css. You approved the design, it was then done in valid css/xhtml. Then you changed the colors and logo, and I did the css/xhtml on that. You said how much you loved it and then you disappeared.

a little blatant, dont you think?

I wasn't "discount" to you when I did your cash program www.pimpcartel.com
You can't just disappear when you've agreed to a price, especially when the last thing you say is how much you love it and money is on the way. The fact that you somehow think in your own mind that what you did was okay shows a huge lack of professionalism and honor on your part.

Thanks, but it really isn't about the money. It's really the principle of the whole thing. It's quite frustrating to chase down a client who says they love something, only to have them become a ghost. If the tables were turned and I didn't meet a deadline for a client and went completely MIA, people would absolutely freak out at the chance to trash me. However, not enough companies or people get called out for doing the same thing. Unfortunately that's something designers have to go through.
I do appreciate the offer if you were serious, but I don't want a hand out. I just think it should be known how poorly he conducts his business.

I disagree. I won't pay for something I can't use, and not designed to my specs. And I did give you $900 for a one-page design that is completely unusable. I'd say $900 for 1 page is more than enough to compensate you for your efforts.

:Oh crap

Shit, 5K is alot!

Does anyone notice that this Craigspimp dude seems to see things a little different than everyone else and then absolutely refuses to back off from that position?

It's been explained by the company that he's being paid but they had to move him from an expidited special pay schedule to a regular affiliate pay schedule because of concerns of fraud. It's been explained over and over again that he will be paid the oustanding balance. He completely ignores these posts though, and just goes back to "they're ripping me off by not paying me".

Looks like the same thing with Zuzana. His story seems wildly different than hers, even though he more or less confirms her version after the fact.

You should probably get your stories straight man, you seem confused.

Captain Obvious' Tip of the Day...

Add Craigspimp to your blocked sponsors and ignore list.

~Ray

For not liking the design, these emails don't quite make sense....

1/28/09 - Hi Zuzana, looks great! I just sent you $250, i'll send the remaining $500 on monday and then you can send me the zip files, my epass is completely tapped right now. thanks! ET

1/24/09 - looks a lot better thanks! i'll send the remaining $700 on monday, my epass is just tapped at the moment. Hope your weekend is going well. cheers,

1/19/09 - ok looks good! zip it up, I'll shoot over epass paymnt tomorrow. cheers ET

1/11/09 - Looks great Sarah! I think this is the final version we'll go with. I really like this design and color scheme! Thanks ET

These are your specs
http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/gfy/MainPageSpecs.jpg
which I followed exactly except for the few things you had me change or move

It's not even about the money at this point. If a client isn't happy I will do changes until they are 100% satisfied. You told me you loved it and that money was on it's way. Then you completely ignored icq's, emails and phone calls. You never mentioned being anything but 100% happy until you were called out here.

A quick Google search of your email shows that I am not the first designer you have done this to. This is obviously a losing battle with you and one that will result in nothing but arguing since you somehow think you are validated in your unprofessional actions. I've said what I needed to say and I'll just have to leave it at that and hope people take this as a warning of your character. I need to get to sleep to get up with my son in the morning and I can't waste any more time with this.

Gee, I don't think I'm confused.

PimpMansion runs a shitty program and ignore their affiliates. I thought guys on here should know about it. I'm not the only one they've fucked, either.

Affiliate support should be prompt, reasonable, courteous and payouts should be on time.

That's how I like to be treated and that's exactly how I treat anyone who promotes for me. We go to a lot of trouble to make sure that everyone gets paid DAILY who promotes for us, and feel free to browse our support forum at SHADYDOLLARS.COM if you think I'm just all BS. You'll see 1200+ very happy affiliates on there.

Look, I've sent big traffic to almost every dating site program out there, and this is the only one I've ever had a problem with. All the other programs are on the ball, but these pimpmansion guys couldn't give a shit about their affils, and that gets under my skin.

I'm going to help everyone out here. The guy's name is not Eddie Temple, he is using a fake name from the movie Layer Cake. Go figure, a scammer using a fake name.

He is hosting craigspimp on The Planet. Send an e-mail to [email protected] and complain that he is spamming craigslist. They will take that seriously.

Next go to Craigslist.com and contact their abuse depratment and complain that craigspimp.com is paying people to spam craigslist, they have over 100 affiliates that they pay to do so, and you want something done about it. I already have and spoke to someone named Steve, his e-mail is [email protected] and he informed me that craigslist is looking into legal action so the more complaints the better. Craigslist loves to sue these people and if you tell them he is developing a craigslist autoposter called craigsbuddy, and also owns replygenie.com which is used to spam craigslist they would love to know that.

Just type on craigspimp scam on google and you will see page after page of people he scammed and never paid. I can't wait to see this scumbag sued. :1orglaugh

SOME FACTS AND AN ADVICE

fact: you agreed for some work and you agreed a price
fact: you said you loved it, which means you were happy with the work
fact: you didn't pay
fact: I bet neither you nor any person in the world can define web 2.0 design since web 2.0 is about programming (doh!). Google is web2.0. The New York Times is web2.0. I defy you to find a single thing that looks similar, other than the white background
fact: I bet you didn't ask Zuzana if she's able to read minds, and if so, I assume that feature wasn't included in the price
fact: If you paid too much or if the company wasn't the right choice is your problem, not the other company's problem
fact: after not paying someone who did a work which you agreed to, and even further, YOU LOVED IT, you come crying because a company flagged you because of suspicious activities. And yet they're paying you.
fact: what you're doing is the basic con artist procedure

an advice: if you're so pimp, $500 is just spare change, just pay it and save face. Then MAYBE someone will take you seriously instead of everyone laughing at you

Bullshit scumbag you are always behind paying your people and you have never kept up with daily payouts you were lucky to pay once a week at one point and you erase posts on your forum where people complain. I'm compiling info on you and you have something big coming from craigslist so look forward to it :1orglaugh

Wow, yep here's what I found...

"Craigspimp is a SCAM,

Heres the deal,, They advertise that you dont have to worry about conversions or anything, then this guy Bill, will start emailing you after a week, and telling you that you are not doing your job.

After that what will happen is that you will request to be paid, only they will not pay you, instead they will deactivate your account and not let you see anything more about what is going on.

They do not give you stats or anything else for that matter about how many hits the target ad is getting or anything else.

DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THIS PROGRAM, you will only waste your time.


Also here is some information that I found.


The Actual persons name that is in charge is

Eddie Temple"

i think my forum speaks for itself. we always pay daily and on time.

LOL I love how this thread turned so ugly. I guess calling people out with a bad history gets yourself called out.

Contact the e-mail addreses above and complain he uses fake whois info like a maildrop and fake name but craigslist will find him and theplanet will pull his hosting for spamming.

No you don't scumbag and the only people you will be paying soon is a lawyer to defend you against craigslist.

I beg to differ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...mp&btnG=Search :winkwink:

Also he is using ulust as his dating sponsor but they said they will pull him as an affiliate if they get complaints so complain to ulust and get his dating sponsor pulled.

Pretty sad when the only evidence you need to call someone a SCAMMER is a search of their own business name/domain name.

This guy is shadier then a charcoal sketch.

do you think we would have stayed in business since may of 2008 and done over $3,000,000 in dating joins if we were scamming our affiliates out of payment?

Get your facts straight buddy and try not to be such a dolt.

you flooded us with fake emails from some sort of mailer. all in alphabetical order too. and you expect to be paid for your fraud scam? right ...

In my opinion, Sharky, stop telling him that "nobody said he wouldn't be paid" and just fucking pay up.

Think I make this shit up? Have a look yourself, you can't delete the messages/posts/pages/websites set up to show how you roll like its your own message board. Take a minute and go check around.

And even if those threads/pages/posts/messages etc were wrong or fake (highly unlikely), you're still just a fucking craigslist spammer, who does not pay out designers.

3 million in joins, but will fall off the side of the earth over $500, how in the fuck will you cover the taxes on that when you couldn't shit out 5 bones for something you wanted. You think we are all fucking retarded?

And you call me a dolt?

'wow' is all i have to say.

If you made over 3 million......Then.....

1.Why you worry about taking a $5,000 lost?

You should be able to dust that off..:2 cents:

2.Why dont u pay Zuzana for her work???
$500.00 should be toilet paper money...

I dont really believe u made over 3,000,000 if you are crying about $5,000 and ripping webmasters off.

You fake ass :pimp