I just realized who this idiot complaining is as he's been run off gfy before. I have no sympathy for someone who runs a program that is at least partially responsible for the mass amount of junk postings on craigslist and frankly I'm surprised they'd even accept him as an affiliate to begin with.

i contacted 'sharky', 'willy wonka' and 'roger rabbit' .. all the pimpmansion guys i know, prior to starting this thread. As usual, no response. I don't like having to air my shit in public, but i think other affiliates have a right to know about programs that fuck you over when you stop sending joins.

people are going to post ads on CL no matter what. we didnt invent CL marketing nor do we offer autoposting software to facilitate it. All we do is help people monetize their efforts

Lovely double talk, all you do is encourage your affiliates to post bullshit posts to drive traffic to you. Your affiliates post thousands of bogus singles ads and then you auto respond with outright lies in hopes luring in the poor sap, nice. No wonder your sales don't rebill and I can see why you wouldn't want to be on revshare.

How do most of your affiliates push HM, Sharky? Through blogs? Ad-space on tubes/tgp, ect?

We care about all of our affiliates, big or small. I can be reached by icq, email or even phone. You sent your initial email last week while I was attending the Phoenix Forum. Willy was there to respond to you in a timely manner. I don't understand where you get "complete lack of response." I can see all your communication with our company, and i dont' see an email that was missed. Finally, we are not withholding any payment. We simply moved you to our regular payout schedule per our new company wide policy. There were several affiliates who were moved to our regular payout schedule from the weekly payout schedule they were on. This is not only due to a "risk of fraud" but due to the accounting nightmare created by us trying to work with each of our affiliates individually. Our program is constantly growing and we need to make sure we stay organized to continue this growth. I'm sure you understand.

You copied each of us on an individual email last week. Willy was the first to respond and continued communication with you. Shall I post the email history to prove my point?

As Willy mentioned, your account was flagged as possible fraud and upon your request for payouts with even less lag we made the decision to ask you not to send anymore traffic via your PPS links. You were never told you woulnd't be paid for the traffic you sent:-)

Our affiliates promote via free sites, paysites, blogs, tubes, PPC, SE and more. We are by no means a HUGE program but we do OK. I welcome ANYONE to contact me for assistance in working with us. If you are currently sending to a dating program, I'm willing to bet I can make you more money from the same traffic. If you aren't promoting dating, why not? Money is here to be made, don't leave it on the table!

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Eddie with all these sales it would be great if you paid me for the design I did on Loveranger several months ago !!! I have called e-mailed and icqed several times... do a search for this guy before you deal with him.. seems he has a record of shady things..

1-28-09

Hi Zuzana, looks great! I just sent you $250, i'll send the remaining $500 on monday and then you can send me the zip files, my epass is completely tapped right now. thanks! ET

damn... well that sucks

oh wow, that sucks girl!

Thanks hun, I forgot all about him until I ran into that thread tonight..
He is bitching about getting ripped off on this board and he is ripping people off on this board !!!

its craigslist spam that is super tricky at points. I bet the traffic doesnt retain quite as well as more reputable sources. And if they arent making money off your traffic why would they continue to lose out with pps. Like sharky said they are running a business not an auto company or a bank heh

Looks like Craigspimp has magically disappeared.

Pay Zuzanna her $500. :disgust

More like, busy spamming CL for the supper hour.

Couldn't resist....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...hrisHanson.png

Whoa. Wait a second.

You mean to tell me that he came here to bitch about not getting paid, and this become a reverse drama thread about him not paying Zuzana?

That's got suck to get owned like this in your own thread.

Hopefully this is over..:2 cents:

This thread took a twist :)

Always smooth sailing with PimpMansion and VS.

I'd like to know when this guy is going to pay Sarah though.

oh snap :uhoh

DAMN! :error

Not true. I paid $900 of a $1400 job for my new dating site called LoveRanger.

Sorry Zuzana, and it's nothing personal, but I'm not happy with the design. That's just how it goes. I paid $900 for a design I didn't use. So I'm out $900 and you didn't get an extra $500. Who do you think is worse off?

Probably my fault for going with a 'discount' designer in the first place. I scrapped the entire design by Sarah/Zuzana for which we agreed $1400 and I paid $900 of that. And with nothing to show for it at all.

I'm having my dating site redesigned by a top-notch design firm for $5k so at least I can get the right look for the site.

I shopped Sarah's design to everyone on my team and they all agreed it was pretty poor. I can post screenshots of the two and you decide.

if the milk turns out to be sour, i aint the kind of pussy to drink it

worth $1400 or not? you decide

http://www.zuzanadesigns.com/steven/...ger/preview/3/

well, if i was running a dating site affiliate program (which i soon will be) and an affiliate was bringing high volume but low member value relative to pay-per-sale, i would contact that affiliate and let them know what's happening.

For example, if my traffic is only bringing, say, a $40 member value over time and I'm getting $50/sale, then of course this is something that needs to be addressed.

As an affiliate manager, would you:

1. withhold payout and ignore the affiliate (what pimpmansion does)

2. contact the affiliate to inform him of the situation, and propose an alternative (such as a lower payout)

I would certainly opt for strategy #2. It's the only sensible arrangement where both parties can make money.

But oh wait .. roger and the gang are too busy playing golf to even bother thinking about how to make bank.

And that's what *REALLY* bugs me about fucking pimpmansion .. they have a site that converts pretty well, but they put absolutely no effort into running a tight ship.

I guess that's why they all use made-up names from cartoons and play golf all day, instead of learning how to run an affiliate program.

I have numerous emails from you specifically saying "I love it! Looks great!"
In fact, you had me do one design and said you "loved it" and then a week later said your programmers wanted a different color even though you already approved the design. So I changed the colors and logo for you and your response was "Hi Zuzana, looks great! I just sent you $250, I'll send the remaining $500 on monday and then you can send me the zip files, my epass is completely tapped right now. thanks! ET"...that was almost 3 months ago and I haven't heard a peep from you. You've never shown any attempt to say you didn't like it (unless saying you loved it had some hidden meaning I've never heard of)

Since when does someone exclaim happiness and promise final payment when they are not happy? I've left you emails, ICQ's and I've left messages on the phone number provided by your domain whois, all of which were completely ignored. As you know I do changes until my clients are 100% happy, so I highly doubt that is what is happening here, especially considering your joy at the outcome of the design. I've found numerous threads from other boards, and posts on craigslist about you doing this to designers. Your unprofessionalism doesn't excuse the fact that you hired me for a job, approved and "loved" the design and then didn't hold up your end of the bargain to pay for it.

Zuzana

Sorry you got involved with this guy. We'll make it right. Send me your epass and I'll send you the 500$.

if i like it so much why didnt i pay the remaining $500 balance on a $1400 job and use the design, instead of paying another $5k to have a professional design firm give me something more appropriate?

and yes, you're right .. i thought it was ok, but i don't know shit. I shopped the design to everyone in my company and they all rejected it, almost with 100% agreement, that it did not conform to the specs I sent you (web 2.0 simple style), and that it was not the right color scheme and layout for the site.

As for you redesigning it, well, you've either got the skillz or you don't. I know your speciality is adult and this was supposed to be a web 2.0 dating site, so maybe it's just not in your repertoire to design this kind of site. I'll post screenshots of the new design once it's finished, and you can see what i mean.

That was the very first jpg preview not done in css. You approved the design, it was then done in valid css/xhtml. Then you changed the colors and logo, and I did the css/xhtml on that. You said how much you loved it and then you disappeared.

a little blatant, dont you think?

I wasn't "discount" to you when I did your cash program www.pimpcartel.com
You can't just disappear when you've agreed to a price, especially when the last thing you say is how much you love it and money is on the way. The fact that you somehow think in your own mind that what you did was okay shows a huge lack of professionalism and honor on your part.

Thanks, but it really isn't about the money. It's really the principle of the whole thing. It's quite frustrating to chase down a client who says they love something, only to have them become a ghost. If the tables were turned and I didn't meet a deadline for a client and went completely MIA, people would absolutely freak out at the chance to trash me. However, not enough companies or people get called out for doing the same thing. Unfortunately that's something designers have to go through.
I do appreciate the offer if you were serious, but I don't want a hand out. I just think it should be known how poorly he conducts his business.

I disagree. I won't pay for something I can't use, and not designed to my specs. And I did give you $900 for a one-page design that is completely unusable. I'd say $900 for 1 page is more than enough to compensate you for your efforts.

:Oh crap

Shit, 5K is alot!

Does anyone notice that this Craigspimp dude seems to see things a little different than everyone else and then absolutely refuses to back off from that position?

It's been explained by the company that he's being paid but they had to move him from an expidited special pay schedule to a regular affiliate pay schedule because of concerns of fraud. It's been explained over and over again that he will be paid the oustanding balance. He completely ignores these posts though, and just goes back to "they're ripping me off by not paying me".

Looks like the same thing with Zuzana. His story seems wildly different than hers, even though he more or less confirms her version after the fact.

You should probably get your stories straight man, you seem confused.