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Antonio 04-09-2009 01:44 PM
Watcha bitching about, cracka?

BFT3K 04-09-2009 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by porndotnet (Post 15726174)
"never go full retard"...
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

roly 04-09-2009 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 15726391)
#5 you're angry you suck at marketing
so do you

JohnnyV_MaxCash 04-09-2009 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kre8t0r (Post 15726509)
Great post! :thumbsup
A response to post #58.

First of thank you for your support and joins.

Secondly, it is very possible that I am not marketing correctly. That is apparent by the success of the first post and the length of this one. I am not someone who believes that I know better than everyone else, and that my word is the be all and end all.

Having said that I have had, I do have, and continue to have several very successful marketing campaigns in this space. It is my first time attempting to speak openly with affiliates, and obvioulsy my very straight forward post openly requesting business did not have one response. I will take your input. How should I do it. I'm not sure how to better check in with affiliates than by saying we will (I will) look into what you are sending and how consistant you can be and pay you accordingly.

I respectfully disagree that 14 years and 1/2 a billion dollars in payouts is meaningless. Max Cash is a proven entity and paying out that much HAS to mean something. Are we old school? Are we yesterdays news? No. Are we actively saying that while people are complaining about payouts from other progranms and bitching about the economy, we are making more money than we have in years.

Yes, we did have a panel in Phoenix that (in a nut shell) was a question if the affiliate model was still necessary. I want to say for the record that I believe that it is. It is important to realize however that the market has changed and that the model has changed. When Adult revenue is down (depending on who you ask) 10-30% it is imperative to look at new stradegies and solid preformers. Affiliates should do this, and programs should do this.

I believe that affiliates have made so many demands on the programs $75.00 payouts and 50% recurring for life as an example, that the model cannot support itself. At that point if you cannot pay out what an affiliate wants you have two choices, lower payouts or find a way to get the joins from a different source; probably internally. It is my belief that that should scare some affiliates.

Look we are who we are. We have been here a long time. We are making more money and converting better than we have in a while. I want folks to join us in that. Period.

JohnnyV_MaxCash 04-09-2009 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kre8t0r (Post 15726709)
Instead of playing with trolls... Maybe JohnnyV can comment on what was quoted in post #58 you seemed to skip right over that gem Doc wrote...
Just replied... and I agree what Doc wrote was smart and thoughtful, and exactly the type of conversation I want to have on this board.

Thanks,

BradM 04-09-2009 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by roly (Post 15727161)
so do you
Nope, not at all. You have no idea what kind of income I generate every month. :)

JimmiDean 04-09-2009 02:01 PM
Tough Friday ?

Gabriel 04-09-2009 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 15727020)
marketing genius, lol.

this is the most successful contest thread of 2009, without having to payout contest winnings. it even pulled in a few real webmasters...

props, props...

3 pages, 127 replies 1,322 views


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LAJ 04-09-2009 02:30 PM
Find a new board to do business on ;)

Sarah_Jayne 04-09-2009 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabriel (Post 15727251)
Hey sexy man.

tical 04-09-2009 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by porndotnet (Post 15726174)
"never go full retard"...
hahahahaha

Kre8t0r 04-09-2009 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyV_MaxCash (Post 15727185)
Just replied... and I agree what Doc wrote was smart and thoughtful, and exactly the type of conversation I want to have on this board.

Thanks,
More threads like this couldn't be a bad thing around here, planned or not... :2 cents:

Great response JohnnyV :thumbsup

polish_aristocrat 04-09-2009 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 15727095)
Wouldn't surprise me, Damian used to go nuts now and then before he got banned.
I'm quite sure that Damian got fired from MaxCash (short before getting banned here).

J$tyle$ 04-09-2009 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 15726463)
yeah what would i know about what sells, i only send sales to the 121 different programs i have on my stats remote. i even sent over 10k in sales to maxcash. that was about 10 or 11 years ago, back when they sold good.
We sell good now .. that's the point!

PORNSTAR - http://www.karasxxx.com/indexb.php?console=N
FETISH - http://www.obeymeslave.com/indexb.php?console=N
ANAL - http://www.deepasssex.com/indexb.php?console=N
LESBIAN - http://www.shelikesgirls.com/indexb.php?console=N
LEGAL TEEN - http://www.houseofteens.com/indexb.php?console=N

Nothing wrong with any of these sites - only thing wrong is that there's no way for YOU to know that unless YOU send traffic.

XPays 04-09-2009 05:24 PM
maximum bumps ;-)

CaptainHowdy 04-09-2009 05:31 PM
What the hell ...

CDSmith 04-09-2009 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ~RB (Post 15727093)
I'll be following this thread closely :smokin

RB
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PSD 04-09-2009 10:13 PM
There are a number of reasons why affiliates don't like to have to contact sponsors individually to negotiate a better payout deal. For one, you will never know if you got as good a deal as others that may even be sending less traffic. I think it is better to be transparent about it and just offer tiered payouts if you do not already.

Iron Fist 04-09-2009 10:27 PM
When do we get a hug?

onlymovies 04-09-2009 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nosey (Post 15726409)


hahaha...WTF

Raf1 04-09-2009 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15726469)
why is this board a magnet for the insane?
this whole industry is a magnet for the insane. Luckily quite a lot of normal people stumble onto work in the adult industry too

J$tyle$ 04-10-2009 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JCK (Post 15728614)
There are a number of reasons why affiliates don't like to have to contact sponsors individually to negotiate a better payout deal. For one, you will never know if you got as good a deal as others that may even be sending less traffic. I think it is better to be transparent about it and just offer tiered payouts if you do not already.
I understand what you're saying but there are other perks to having personal relationships and communicating with sponsors. Whether it be special payouts ... or having custom creative made ... or special linking codes ... or landing pages ... or gaining inside information about new unsaturated sites ... or getting badges for shows taken care of ... or any number of other things.

Also, I feel the more people you're in communication with the more $$$ making opportunities arise ... at least that's my experience :2 cents:

Arno-TheAdultCompany.eu 04-10-2009 06:18 AM
I made a shitload of money with Maxcash in 1999-2001, it's was great !!! :)

And i still loves maxcash, im sure they have good relationship with their banks and as Johnny said, it's what matters, you can be sure they will not have their merchant account shutdown overnight like it is more likely to happen with a "new" program

Go MaxCash!

nation-x 04-10-2009 06:37 AM
I can't differentiate your sites from most of the other big programs out there... none of whom I promote... why? Saturation, market demand, etc etc. Your content is exactly like the content I can find on every large traffic site on the net... as an affiliate, I have found that I need to market to consumers that are looking for something else... and that would be... Real Amateur Content... not the bullshit that big programs pass off as amateur. Maybe if you thought outside of the box you could generate more affiliate sales.

commonsense 04-10-2009 06:37 AM
Something to mention is there's at least a few affiliates that dislike dealing with companies with multiple affiliate managers, especially ones that do their own affiliate promotions. It's not unheard of to have them sniff through your account for traffic sources, then applying the info for themselves.

JohnnyV_MaxCash 04-10-2009 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Arno-TheAdultCompany.eu (Post 15729447)
I made a shitload of money with Maxcash in 1999-2001, it's was great !!! :)

And i still loves maxcash, im sure they have good relationship with their banks and as Johnny said, it's what matters, you can be sure they will not have their merchant account shutdown overnight like it is more likely to happen with a "new" program

Go MaxCash!
Having been around as long as they have, Max Cash (and other large programs) have been able to determine exactly where all the frailities in the process are. By making sure the infrastructure is sound, you can grow a stable program. That should be attractive to thoughful webmasters, because at the end of the day, it is all about getting paid; and being sure you are going to get paid again tomorrow.

BTW: I like being refered to as "old school" it means we've been here a long time. Any updates deemed necessary, can be updated, any "changes" that need to be made, can be. One thing you can never change, (or fake) is time. Time = experience, both good and bad, and in this space, that could not be more important.

candyflip 04-10-2009 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 15726911)
We have too much in common..that is why you love my threads.
I sometimes think you're me without the weiner.

PornAddict 04-10-2009 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by porndotnet (Post 15726174)
"never go full retard"...
Best reply!!!

- PornAddict

JohnnyV_MaxCash 04-10-2009 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PornAddict (Post 15729969)
Best reply!!!

- PornAddict
Quote:
Originally Posted by porndotnet (Post 15726174)
"never go full retard"...
No doubt that is a great post and has caused me to laugh out loud every time I see it. I liked the movie, and I liked the post; very funny and funny is good! Yeah, I probably was a little frustrated when I put out that post, and I had no idea it would go this long.

I'm glad it did for two reasons: 1) it allowed us to eventually get to a meaningful discussion regarding what is and is not important to this space, and 2) it has given me at least 7 open laughs at that post, (and at myself) over the last two days.

Funny is good Porndotnet no doubt about it!

NEVER go full retard!

baddog 04-10-2009 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyV_MaxCash (Post 15726132)
. . . .

Let me say however as a 12 year member of this community: That's awesome! It actually makes me genuinely happy to know that each member of the affiliate community is completely content where they are, what they are making, and how large their marketshare is. Next to Disney land this must be the happiest fucking place on earth.

I haven't posted on this board very often in the time I have been in this space because I have said that it is more about "nice tits" and "you suck" instead of actual business.
With all due respect [not sure if any is actually due], but most 12 year members don't have a signup date that is 2.5 weeks ago.

porndotnet 04-10-2009 10:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyV_MaxCash (Post 15730140)
No doubt that is a great post and has caused me to laugh out loud every time I see it. I liked the movie, and I liked the post; very funny and funny is good! Yeah, I probably was a little frustrated when I put out that post, and I had no idea it would go this long.

I'm glad it did for two reasons: 1) it allowed us to eventually get to a meaningful discussion regarding what is and is not important to this space, and 2) it has given me at least 7 open laughs at that post, (and at myself) over the last two days.

Funny is good Porndotnet no doubt about it!

NEVER go full retard!
"Takes Bow.."

:thumbsup

~RB 04-10-2009 10:32 AM
I'll tell you what, some people have clearly gone full retard when it comes to their business...The naivete is amazing...Not for nuthin', I'm just sayin'...

I'll continue to follow this post closely :rasta

RB

sortie 04-10-2009 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyV_MaxCash (Post 15726132)
Not one reply.

You gotta be fuckin' kidding me. In 24 hours not one reply.

I watch affiliates posting on this board that they are not making enough money. I watch folks on this board complaining that this program or that program suck, they are lowering payouts, they don't return my calls etc. And yet, not one reply to an honest request to make a deal, with an Industry standard like Max Cash.

So every affiliate out there is either 1) already working with Max Cash and getting paid exactly what they want to get paid or, 2) completely happy where they are with every sponsor program they work with. 3) Too stupid to realize a good thing when they see it. 4) Believing that the amount of posts on this board equates to position in the Industry.

I choose #3.

Let me say however as a 12 year member of this community: That's awesome! It actually makes me genuinely happy to know that each member of the affiliate community is completely content where they are, what they are making, and how large their marketshare is. Next to Disney land this must be the happiest fucking place on earth.

I haven't posted on this board very often in the time I have been in this space because I have said that it is more about "nice tits" and "you suck" instead of actual business.

I sat on a panel in Phoenix with a title that paraphrasing equated to: "is the affiliate model dead?" If you are an affiliate that should scare the hell out of you. Keep your eye out for panels like this at shows coming up, because if they continue the model will be dead. But you don't have to worry about adapting, don't worry about being creative or clever, or hustling, cause there are plenty of jobs out there right now where you can work your own hours from where ever you want and make 5 figures a month on-line. Easy.

I choose #3.

Here is a solid program whose has a reputation for always paying webmasters, in lean times and in times of plenty, who has paid webmasters more money than any other program in our space, genuinly seeking out affiliates to make individual deals with them; and not one fucking inquiry.

It is not because Max Cash is not a 14 year program with a great history.

It is not because we are not willing to pay out based on what you send.

It is not because we are converting better during this "downturn" than we have in years.

No, I choose #3. You may honestly be too stupid to realize a good thing when you see it. By the way a bit of good news: it is a proven fact, that bitching about other programs and their payouts and bitchin about how bad the economy is and bitching that you are not getting paid what you deserve is, in fact, a proven way to increase your income. You should be proud of your efforts; you are on your way.

Good on ya. Best of luck in your new endeavours.

Go fuck yourself.

Johnny V.
[email protected]
Thanks for posting the link that I should reply to.

Thanks.

Peaches 04-10-2009 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15730157)
With all due respect [not sure if any is actually due], but most 12 year members don't have a signup date that is 2.5 weeks ago.
Quote:
~RB
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2008
You sure you wanna stick with the thought process that a sign up date at GFY has any reference to how long someone's been in the biz? :winkwink:

JohnnyV_MaxCash 04-10-2009 10:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15730157)
With all due respect [not sure if any is actually due], but most 12 year members don't have a signup date that is 2.5 weeks ago.
Naw your right.

I have never spent any time on the boards. I started in 1997 processing credit cards and have had and still have several clients as a consultant. You can probably see by my rant the exact reason why I don't post that often. I am blunt. I say what's on my mind, and I usually say it with enthuasium.

I repeat, any webmaster offended...I'm sorry. I like this space, I've been here a long time, and my interest is to see it thrive and grow. I carry that sentiment around on my sleeve.

»Rob Content« 04-10-2009 10:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15730157)
With all due respect [not sure if any is actually due], but most 12 year members don't have a signup date that is 2.5 weeks ago.
Maybe some people spent the last 8 years working hard instead of trying to establish 70+ k threads on a message board?

baddog 04-10-2009 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 15730235)
You sure you wanna stick with the thought process that a sign up date at GFY has any reference to how long someone's been in the biz? :winkwink:
Being a member of the community and being in the biz are not necessarily the same . . . as shown above.

J$tyle$ 04-10-2009 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15730300)
Being a member of the community and being in the biz are not necessarily the same . . . as shown above.
Semantics ... he was talking about the adult community

~RB 04-10-2009 11:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 15730235)
You sure you wanna stick with the thought process that a sign up date at GFY has any reference to how long someone's been in the biz? :winkwink:
Peaches, ya old broad...What's shakin'?

Thought this was the YNOT board circa 1997...Carry on.

RB

baddog 04-10-2009 11:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J$tyle$ (Post 15730326)
Semantics ... he was talking about the adult community
Guess I was confused since he seemed to be slamming the GFY community for not responding to a thread of his.


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