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TheAmericanCannibal 04-13-2009 02:14 PM

I like to think of myself as "Old School". Old School means I have been around long enough to know that MAXCASH looks better than it ever has.

Not only that -but I also remember when Maxcash was one of the big three making Tens of MILLIONS a month and paying out webmasters MILLIONS each month.

I can easily see where Maxcash could have paid out over a half billion dollars.
Most people on this board aren't old enough to remember you RB-

Or you...Johnny V.

It's funny cause all you used to have to do 10 years ago was make people money, and in most cases- don't take 51% of their payout.

Truth be told, these days you need to be a full retard to have people know who you are in this business.

That's because the floodgates of retards opened and filled this industry with drug addled, bi polar, wackjobs that had the winning combination of
an Acer computer from Fry's and a Flip video camera from Best Buy. They came into this business with no knowledge of the history of this business, or who paved the way for them to have the ability to profit from porn. They are $30K a year millionaires- who think making $10,000 a month in porn is a lot of money...hahaha

When talking about one of the true pioneers of the adult internet business, RB is on top of that list along with Persian Kitty, FM, Joe E, Shuster, Serge, and many others

Now bash me for thinking I am kissing RB's ass -flame away.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 04-13-2009 02:15 PM

http://lemmycaution.files.wordpress....successful.jpg

Brujah 04-13-2009 02:35 PM

J$styles and Sarah are both pretty awesome. Sarah should be promoted.

SlickCash 04-13-2009 02:44 PM

Maxcash is a great company who I used to do great with but have not promoted in quite some time. I am definately interested in seeing if there is any business we can do together.

J$tyle$ 04-13-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly Lez! (Post 15731043)
Some new or atleast redesigned gay sites would get my attention! My clients surfers want the best in gay. I have offered to help you guys fix the gay sites before!

Addressed below

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 15731069)
A number of them got face lifts not too far back. Hit me up on email at [email protected] or on icq at 232834291 (or anybody else here) and we can talk about getting you what you need.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly Lez! (Post 15731086)
No offense to you or J but ummm redesigning the homepage does not make the content good! And why would any gay program promote you since you never attend any of our events since you let Dzila go... I have never seen one MaxCash person since! You need new content and you need to make a presence! And as always hit me up if you need help or advice I think I have a pretty good ear as to what the gay webmasters want:winkwink:

That has been addressed - maybe not in direct response to you but several times already, Holly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~RB (Post 15738106)
Man, it's not hard to see why people are making less money. 2007 thinking in 2009, that's the problem. Not saying exclusive content doesn't work with some biz models, but here we are telling you that Kara's, a flagship site since 1995, is converting better today than it has in years. New design have something to do with it? Perhaps. But how about the fact that we, as a company, are structured to allow more people in the door.

In other words, exclusive content, non exclusive content, landmark content of two Martians in a 69, it all means shit if your processing capabilities aren't up to 2009 standards.

Absorb that ONE fact and you'll make more money.

RB

PS - The biggest mistake people in this industry have made since 1995 is forgetting that was turns them on isn't what turns everyone else on. That mentality will send you searching the couch cushions for beer money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly Lez! (Post 15738806)
hey why was my post ignored?

Unignored :winkwink:

J$tyle$ 04-13-2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickCash (Post 15739361)
Maxcash is a great company who I used to do great with but have not promoted in quite some time. I am definately interested in seeing if there is any business we can do together.

Hit me up on ICQ (below) with your contact info and lets get on the phone! Wopuld love to work with you!

J$tyle$ 04-13-2009 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15739294)
J$styles and Sarah are both pretty awesome. Sarah should be promoted.

I appreciate that and agree that Sarah is TOTALLY awesome ... so let's get together ... you and Sarah or you and me and actually do some business together.

We'll show you why we work and then you can be our honorary evangelist ... or not :winkwink:

SlickCash 04-13-2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$ (Post 15739397)
Hit me up on ICQ (below) with your contact info and lets get on the phone!

Defiantely, Will hit you up this evening or tomorrow.... just doing interviews for next couple of hours.

J$tyle$ 04-13-2009 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickCash (Post 15739430)
Defiantely, Will hit you up this evening or tomorrow.... just doing interviews for next couple of hours.

Sounds good ... i'll be around ... btw - u can also email me jstyles AT maxcash DOT com with your contact info as well

tranza 04-13-2009 03:10 PM

I seriously wouldn't push a sponsor that started such thread.

J$tyle$ 04-13-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 15739503)
I seriously wouldn't push a sponsor that started such thread.

That's your right, of course - but you don't have to deal with Johnny to push MaxCash. You can choose to deal with someone else here. You can work with Sarah. She is a "webmaster's webmaster" on top of being a fantastic and hard working affiliate rep ... OR you can communicate with me and I'll take good care of your account as well. We're all on the same page here so you have a choice rather than not doing business with us because of one person's thoughts, frustrations or views.

I realize that most people are not easily swayed and it's strictly my opinion from a biz perspective - but I believe you should rethink your position:
  • MaxCash offers sites surfers choose to join that convert VERY well.
  • MaxCash has long standing history of paying affiliates on time (over a dozen years) through good an bad times.
  • MaxCash has deep pockets so we can not only pay like clockwork - but pay you top $$$.
  • You can feel confident and have a sense of security that you're dealing with a straight up company with experience and knowledge relating to converting all types of traffic.
  • You have a staff of people that will work with you to give you the tools, custom creative/landing pages you need to help YOU squeeze out every sale possible from your traffic to pay you even more.

... and to quote something previously said that's very important: "it might be smarter to take a look at why our program has survived so long, and is currently thriving while others are bemoaning their fate."

If those points don't give you pause for thought about promoting MaxCash I don't know what will.

Brujah 04-13-2009 07:55 PM

J$tyle$ is the closer! He killed the thread (so far).

CDSmith 04-13-2009 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 15739118)
Truth be told, these days you need to be a full retard to have people know who you are in this business.

That's because the floodgates of retards opened and filled this industry with drug addled, bi polar, wackjobs that had the winning combination of
an Acer computer from Fry's and a Flip video camera from Best Buy. They came into this business with no knowledge of the history of this business, or who paved the way for them to have the ability to profit from porn.

Nailed it dead nuts on the money, especially with that part but your entire post was good.

One of your best in fact.

TheAmericanCannibal 04-13-2009 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15740485)
Nailed it dead nuts on the money, especially with that part but your entire post was good.

One of your best in fact.

Thanks sometimes my passion for this industry sgets articulated correctly on this board.

Hey let's face it- 13 years ago I would have never guessed this industry would still be around.

I watched many of my friends and employers make MILLIONS off of fads like Spam, cross sells, and many different kinds of deceptive billing practices. Was it right or wrong?

I don't know. All I know is I still sleep well at night knowing I do everything in my power to insure I will continue making money in this industry.

I don't have a day job, I don't suck off of the tits of stupid people ( not anymore) and most of all I don't do business with people I don't know.

That's always been my rule of thumb.

Oh and I NEVER do business with offshore people who don't pre pay for my services.
Especially Australians or Russians.

There I said it.
:winkwink:

I have been burned a handful of times- and each time I knew going into the deal ahead of time. Call it a sixth sense.

I am chasing over $15k right now from an Irish company, and these douchebags

Http://www.pornstardiscovery.com

If you are in the Sarasota area and want to make 50% collecting on a debt for me-
Let me know my email is below.

I know a good sized Samoan can make my money appear really FAST

TheAmericanCannibal 04-13-2009 08:34 PM

My point was....
I would take an IOU from RB or Maxcash any day of the week.
RB and I come from back east where your word is your bond.

I would also send some traffic to them cause I know you'd be treated fairly.
If they say it's converting better than ever, then it is.

Sly 04-13-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15740466)
J$tyle$ is the closer! He killed the thread (so far).

I've always liked J$. He doesn't just talk nonsense, he can back it up.

esnem 04-13-2009 08:42 PM

Customer acquisition in adult is a pain in the balls. Once you figure it out, you figure out how much easier it is in other verticals. Just not necessarily as cheap.

Affiliates who think programs should treat them as 'customers' have their heads up their asses just as far as the people who think Max Cash isn't ran by some of the biggest guys in online adult still.

An affiliate's job is to sell customers. Sell high if you're smart. If you haven't figured that out yet, go home and let the big boys play.

:pimp

Iron Fist 04-13-2009 09:27 PM

Lots of secrets getting out in this thread.... noobs... keep moving along... nothing to see here.

J$tyle$ 04-13-2009 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15740466)
J$tyle$ is the closer! He killed the thread (so far).

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Thanks for bringing it back to life :winkwink:

J$tyle$ 04-13-2009 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15740485)
Nailed it dead nuts on the money, especially with that part but your entire post was good.

One of your best in fact.

True!

... and then he does what KB does best and makes an entire post about himself :winkwink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 15740538)
Thanks sometimes my passion for this industry sgets articulated correctly on this board.

Hey let's face it- 13 years ago I would have never guessed this industry would still be around.

I watched many of my friends and employers make MILLIONS off of fads like Spam, cross sells, and many different kinds of deceptive billing practices. Was it right or wrong?

I don't know. All I know is I still sleep well at night knowing I do everything in my power to insure I will continue making money in this industry.

I don't have a day job, I don't suck off of the tits of stupid people ( not anymore) and most of all I don't do business with people I don't know.

That's always been my rule of thumb.

Oh and I NEVER do business with offshore people who don't pre pay for my services.
Especially Australians or Russians.

There I said it.
:winkwink:

I have been burned a handful of times- and each time I knew going into the deal ahead of time. Call it a sixth sense.

I am chasing over $15k right now from an Irish company, and these douchebags

Http://www.pornstardiscovery.com

If you are in the Sarasota area and want to make 50% collecting on a debt for me-
Let me know my email is below.

I know a good sized Samoan can make my money appear really FAST

I <3 u KB!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 15740555)
My point was....
I would take an IOU from RB or Maxcash any day of the week.
RB and I come from back east where your word is your bond.

I would also send some traffic to them cause I know you'd be treated fairly.
If they say it's converting better than ever, then it is.

2nd great post of the day! :thumbsup:thumbsup

The RB factor is irrefutable.

If you don't know him or his history ASK somebody that does :2 cents:

PersianKitty 04-13-2009 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$ (Post 15740768)
True!

... and then he does what KB does best and makes an entire post about himself :winkwink:


haha... I was thinking that myself.



Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$ (Post 15740768)
The RB factor is irrefutable.

If you don't know him or his history ASK somebody that does :2 cents:

Agreed.

Reputation is everything in the business if you plan on staying in this business. And if you aren't planning on it, then don't leave a legacy that screws it up for those who do stick around.

TheAmericanCannibal 04-13-2009 10:14 PM

Just for your edification J$tyles
If I wanted to self aggrandize in this post I would have done this....


https://youtube.com/watch?v=VZ-FtTV9n8k

charlie3273 04-13-2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nosey (Post 15726409)

I love this cat .And I got max cash long time ago. But I moved on to cams and dating.:thumbsup

PersianKitty 04-13-2009 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie3273 (Post 15740800)
I love this cat .And I got max cash long time ago. But I moved on to cams and dating.:thumbsup

ahh... just keep your eyes peeled then

the.drunk 04-13-2009 10:29 PM

this is crazy stuff going on

Due 04-13-2009 10:34 PM

I'm sorry but I don't think it is allowed to make claims of doing business or post anything business related untill you have 5000 posts or made at least 1500 "I'd hit it" replies in the same calendar month :2 cents:

J$tyle$ 04-13-2009 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 15740561)
I've always liked J$. He doesn't just talk nonsense, he can back it up.

Thank you, Sly. I've often read your posts over the years and admired how very helpful you've been to people as well as the fact that you're intelligent and your responses are always well thought out. The feeling is mutual.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esnem (Post 15740576)
Customer acquisition in adult is a pain in the balls. Once you figure it out, you figure out how much easier it is in other verticals. Just not necessarily as cheap.

Affiliates who think programs should treat them as 'customers' have their heads up their asses just as far as the people who think Max Cash isn't ran by some of the biggest guys in online adult still.

An affiliate's job is to sell customers. Sell high if you're smart. If you haven't figured that out yet, go home and let the big boys play.

:pimp

Well said, dude.

Things may have changed a ton since 'the adult internet heyday' but key principals have remained the same. That being said, I feel that there are huge opportunities in this "downturn market" in BOTH mainstream and adult. MaxCash saw the writing on the wall and has been poised to capitalize on many of them in the adult space ... and will continue to.

The phrase "If life gives you lemons, make lemonade" comes to mind. It applies to this thread as well as the business environment affiliates find themselves in today.

:2 cents:


Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15740699)
Lots of secrets getting out in this thread.... noobs... keep moving along... nothing to see here.

Actually, noobs should pay close attention AND read between the lines.

There's a lot to be said for learning from what's not spoken as well as what is :winkwink:

J$tyle$ 04-13-2009 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianKitty (Post 15740783)
haha... I was thinking that myself.

Of course you were lol

Quote:

Agreed.

Reputation is everything in the business if you plan on staying in this business. And if you aren't planning on it, then don't leave a legacy that screws it up for those who do stick around.
I love to see your claws come out!

J$tyle$ 04-13-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 15740793)
Just for your edification J$tyles
If I wanted to self aggrandize in this post I would have done this....


https://youtube.com/watch?v=VZ-FtTV9n8k

Uplifting and enlightening

:1orglaugh

esnem 04-13-2009 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$ (Post 15740840)

Well said, dude.

Things may have changed a ton since 'the adult internet heyday' but key principals have remained the same. That being said, I feel that there are huge opportunities in this "downturn market" in BOTH mainstream and adult. MaxCash saw the writing on the wall and has been poised to capitalize on many of them in the adult space ... and will continue to.

The phrase "If life gives you lemons, make lemonade" comes to mind. It applies to this thread as well as the business environment affiliates find themselves in today.

:2 cents:

I would consider selling to RB

J$tyle$ 04-13-2009 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esnem (Post 15740898)
I would consider selling to RB

I'd love to have that conversation. Check your phone and answer my txt :winkwink:

TheAmericanCannibal 04-13-2009 11:17 PM

I would consider selling to RB too

What do u think I am worth?

I got jokes....

PersianKitty 04-13-2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 15740941)
I would consider selling to RB too

What do u think I am worth?

I got jokes....

That's easy..












you're priceless!

NETbilling 04-14-2009 12:18 AM

I can totally see JohnnyV saying this in his deep raspy voice.

"Not one fuckin reply....you have to be kidding me." I love it.

I have know JohnnyV & J$tyle$ for many years and RB and Bob do alot of business with NETbilling and are incredible people to know and spend time with. I must tell you this group some of the smartest people in the industry and work very hard to make their sites the best, pay webmasters well and build their business everyday. If you have not tried promoting Maxcash, you should... and if you have in the past, do it again.

Mitch

Sarah_Jayne 04-14-2009 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly Lez! (Post 15738806)
hey why was my post ignored?

Sorry! I didn't mean to ignore the post. I just thought it had pretty much been answered.

I do get your comments if you were looking at the sites before they were revamped. As I said, they have all been redesigned (and with the eye of a gay man, actually) and because we understand the need for the gay sites to include exclusive content we have also added a bunch of exclusive gay content into the mix of all of our gay sites. Which probably has something to do why the conversions are way up for them since we reworked them.

As I said in my first reply, hit me up and we can talk about getting you what you need to fit the demands of your traffic. However, no part of Max Cash is the 'stale' version of 'old school' any more. Everything has been revamped and not just with a lick of paint but real changes. That said, we always welcome input and we actually do listen to it. In my first reply to you, I told you I would be happy to hear suggestions. Hit me up and that offer still stands.

On the straight side..just take a look at Kara's. If you haven't been there in the last few months then you haven't been there at all. Not only has the tour changed but what the surfer gets has changed. They now get access to multiple sites which wasn't the case until recently. We have a webmaster referral program which was only introduced a few months back. We have RSS feeds (including a gay one) which I personally write by hand because I am a blogger too and hate feeds with no text. They even actually update..which is surprisingly rare with sponsor feeds these days.

So, like I said..I get where you think you may becoming from but you said in your first post that we needed to freshen up the old tours. We did exactly that and we didn't keep it to the tour either - we freshened up everything.


Really..if you haven't been to Max Cash in a couple months then you haven't been there at all.

Sarah_Jayne 04-14-2009 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15739294)
J$styles and Sarah are both pretty awesome. Sarah should be promoted.

Thank you for putting me in a good mood this morning :)

PersianKitty 04-14-2009 12:54 AM

See.. this is Maxcash planning at its best..

Just when Jonathan is about to hit the sack.... Sarah starts her day!

Sarah_Jayne 04-14-2009 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie3273 (Post 15740800)
I love this cat .And I got max cash long time ago. But I moved on to cams and dating.:thumbsup

Hey hit me up. We may just have something to talk about - [email protected]

maxjohan 04-14-2009 01:39 AM

Did you went to school with P1mpdog :1orglaugh

Do your company a favour and low key your attitude. :2 cents:

WWC 04-14-2009 01:44 AM

Only 34 posts and you get a thread going 7 pages now!!! I have almost 11,000 and havent been able to hahahaha.....

NICE lol....welcome to GFY and were you drinking by any chance ;-) j/k...times have changed again and again ..... i have been around for 20 years now from 1989 and boy i have seen it all.......twice!!

Sarah_Jayne 04-14-2009 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianKitty (Post 15741120)
See.. this is Maxcash planning at its best..

Just when Jonathan is about to hit the sack.... Sarah starts her day!

Yup..so we sandwich you in on icq and you get the both of us at once :)

Really though, it does mean there is a rep for every time zone..lol

PersianKitty 04-14-2009 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 15741229)
Yup..so we sandwich you in on icq and you get the both of us at once :)

Really though, it does mean there is a rep for every time zone..lol


Hey.. I don't mind being sandwiched between the right people ;)

J$tyle$ 04-14-2009 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling (Post 15741039)
I can totally see JohnnyV saying this in his deep raspy voice.

"Not one fuckin reply....you have to be kidding me." I love it.

I have know JohnnyV & J$tyle$ for many years and RB and Bob do alot of business with NETbilling and are incredible people to know and spend time with. I must tell you this group some of the smartest people in the industry and work very hard to make their sites the best, pay webmasters well and build their business everyday. If you have not tried promoting Maxcash, you should... and if you have in the past, do it again.

Mitch

:1orglaugh @ Johnny's deep raspy voice ... YOU CAN SO HEAR IT, right?

Mitch, you rock! On behalf of the whole MaxCash crew, thanks for the kind words. It's always been a pleasure knowing you and working with you and YOUR team is always smooth as silk.

That really is one hell of a testimonial ... and very much appreciated coming from you!

Thanks again :thumbsup:thumbsup

J$tyle$ 04-14-2009 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianKitty (Post 15741120)
See.. this is Maxcash planning at its best..

Just when Jonathan is about to hit the sack.... Sarah starts her day!

I told you "multple prong attack plans" :winkwink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 15741229)
Yup..so we sandwich you in on icq and you get the both of us at once :)

Really though, it does mean there is a rep for every time zone..lol

A Persian Kitty sandwich ... meooooow!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianKitty (Post 15741240)
Hey.. I don't mind being sandwiched between the right people ;)

ROAR

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

... and go to bed, my feline friend ... you have an early morning :winkwink:

PersianKitty 04-14-2009 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$ (Post 15741252)
I told you "multple prong attack plans" :winkwink:



A Persian Kitty sandwich ... meooooow!!!!!



ROAR

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

... and go to bed, my feline friend ... you have an early morning :winkwink:

haha.. I got done talking with you and before I could move the lovely Sarah across the pond whispered in my ear.

Sarah_Jayne 04-14-2009 03:56 AM

mmm...kitty sandwich

Honez 04-14-2009 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling (Post 15741039)
I can totally see JohnnyV saying this in his deep raspy voice.

"Not one fuckin reply....you have to be kidding me." I love it.

I have know JohnnyV & J$tyle$ for many years and RB and Bob do alot of business with NETbilling and are incredible people to know and spend time with. I must tell you this group some of the smartest people in the industry and work very hard to make their sites the best, pay webmasters well and build their business everyday. If you have not tried promoting Maxcash, you should... and if you have in the past, do it again.

Mitch

And there you have it. The man, the legend has spoken :winkwink:

JohnnyV_MaxCash 04-14-2009 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling (Post 15741039)
I can totally see JohnnyV saying this in his deep raspy voice.

"Not one fuckin reply....you have to be kidding me." I love it.

I have know JohnnyV & J$tyle$ for many years and RB and Bob do alot of business with NETbilling and are incredible people to know and spend time with. I must tell you this group some of the smartest people in the industry and work very hard to make their sites the best, pay webmasters well and build their business everyday. If you have not tried promoting Maxcash, you should... and if you have in the past, do it again.

Mitch

Thanks Mitch,

Max Cash has been nothing but cool to me since I came on board. Open welcoming and for sure they work hard. Having said that, is it weird that RB hasn't called me since I started this post?

Ya know, had I known this post would go to 6 pages, I porobably would have been a bit more diplomatic. Thinking about it now I really don't feel any of that frustration. I am blunt. I guess as I make my first forays into the wide world of GFY, I will temper myself a little bit and be a tad more thoughtful.

Think first....type second.

Sarah_Jayne 04-14-2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyV_MaxCash (Post 15742003)

Think first....type second.

To be fair, there aren't that many on the boards that actually do that. It is just a number of them that do have shown up in the second part of the thread.

mikeyddddd 04-14-2009 10:06 AM



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