QFT :thumbsup

For the record, I've never said that the govt was behind any of it.. nor have I ever suggested any kind of conspiracy..

As for your theory, several walls were penetrated with the parts reportedly found well within the bldg.

If this plane hit light poles prior to hitting the bldg as was apparently witnessed, the nose dive theory can't work.

I have no idea what it was.. I'm just saying that too many factors, scientific and otherwise, play against the 757 story..

One witness was reported as saying that the plane hit the lawn and slid into the bldg on its wings, which couldn't happen because of the engines and no real lawn damage..
Every witness had a different account..

and still no film shown from all of the cameras aimed in the entry direction..

True, although I personally find it hard to believe that someone from Saudi Arabia was willing to commit suicide over the oppression of someone in Palestine. Especially considering no Arab country is willing to assimilate the Palestinian refugees.

BUT, you are correct in the hate by association over our support for Israel.

I know for me, personally, if the country I live in wasn't a superpower but was subject to the will of a superpower, and that other country launched missiles and dropped bombs on "terrorist targets" but accidentally hit the hospital where my wife worked or the school where my children were....strapping some c-4 to my chest and running into a crowded building in the country that killed my family is something I would probably consider.

If some superpower came and gave me and my countrymen weapons and training so that we could fight against our common enemy (the Soviets) but then abandoned us to starve after we'd done their dirty work, and stood idly by while the oppressive Taliban initiated a coup in my country, but put troops in my holy land to fight against another oppressive dictator, and did it this way because the latter country has oil and the former country doesn't...well I might just spend a decade planning ways to get even. :2 cents:

You 9/11 conspiracy people are nuts... amazing that this thread is still circulating..

This whole thing was started July 16, 1969. Apollo 11 was launched to divert America's attention. Meanwhile, explosives were smuggled into the north tower which was still under construction. And that is why the russians crashed sputnik into the empire state building.

two things for you....

1) does our foreign policy for supporting brutal dictators include hanging them? i guess you didn't clearly define "support".

2) when did i say airplanes didn't hit the twin towers? show me the post where i said this.

who said those bombings were accident? so that's it? woops, sorry about the bombs we dropped on innocent civilians! if you believe the 9/11 attack was real then couldn't they just appologies for it?

let me get this straight, we can shoot down a moving satelite with one missle but we can't hit a stationary target with any degree of accuracy?

how did they get the grounds crew to clean the grass up so fast?

I see Tarpy quietly left this thread. At least he realized he better stop posting because he looks like a total fool. Now if the other lunatics would realize that as well...

It's funny how everytime xxxmoron is asked a question he clearly can't answer he simply ignores it. He must know by now his theories are insane but he doesn't care. He just has to believe. I'm starting to think it's some kind of compulsive behaviour. Some sickness in his brain. Certainly since i know now how old he is. I was pretty sure all this time it was a 15 year old kid which would explain things.

350 questions the morons are ignoring because it doesn't go well with their theories.

this is a very ironic remark which perfectly highlights your insanity.

videos dont lie; you point out that every video is a lie and can be faked... unless you agree with a video, then that video "can't be faked" and is absolute proof

eye witnesses don't lie; which eyewitnesses? the overwhelming majority which have identical stories? or the tiny minority which don't?

science doesn't lie; which science? you spend considerable time explaining all the science proving what happened was a lie (lets forget the fact that you have no math, engineering or metallurgy background are defininately aren't qualified to do so). i presume you again mean "the science i agree with" doesn't lie.

you dismiss everything you don't agree with as fake, a lie, a coverup etc. and you latch on to a few things for which you fabricated an alternative alternative and demand they be accepted as fact because they "can't be faked"... which is ironic considering you are calling all similar facts, videos, reports, science etc "faked".

forgetting 9/11 all together and what anyone might think happened and to what degree. you are totally out of your fucking mind. literally. you are 100% insane. you're views are the result of paranoid delusions and a symptom of mental illness. its truly unfortunate that you don't get the help and medication you need so that you could start to lead a normal life.

Yup, i came to this conclusion as well.

10 pages.

I was thinking the same...

i have to say that it's interesting how fast you guys stopped talking about the details of the "attack" and start focusing on the individuals who present the facts.

it looks like you're picking up bad habits the government uses.

thanks for further confirmation!

long time since I saw a 10 page on GFY without a 100$ PPS

Again, let's go back to Kinetic Energy 101. The wings are very fragile and have very low mass. They would crumple and disintegrate immediately, leaving little damage.

The engine parts, flight recorder, and other remains were identical with the Boeing 757.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...42.html?page=6

witnesses don't lie. you said that yourself:


Flight 77 Debris
Claim: Conspiracy theorists insist there was no plane wreckage at the Pentagon. "In reality, a Boeing 757 was never found," claims pentagonstrike.co.uk, which asks the question, "What hit the Pentagon on 9/11?"

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

its bad news.

Don't you get it; only some witnesses matter to them. Furthermore, that Popular Mechanics report is yellow journalism to them so every expert must have been paid off or pressured. You just can't win.

my interest is more in observing Paranoid Disorder and Delusional Disorder at work, than trying to "win" an argument with someone incapable of reason or rational thought.

... illegal mexicans .... they do wonders :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

one thing will win this argument.

provide one example, just one....of a building completely collapsing (without explosives) to the ground into it's own footprint the way WTC 7 did. just one example.

now if your comment is "well, no two buildings are alike" or "they didn't have the same type of damage" bla...bla...bla, then just provide one example of a buidling that had similar fire and/or structual damage.

surely in the history of steel structures there is at least one other example of this happening.

i can provide numerous examples where it didn't happen but i want to see one where it did.

if someone can provide this then i will shut my mouth and never make another comment on this thread.

Early Friday morning, shortly before 4 a.m., Burkhammer and another firefighter, Brian Moravitz, were combing through debris near the impact site. Peering at the wreckage with their helmet lights, the two spotted an intact seat from the plane?s cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached. Then they saw two odd-shaped dark boxes, about 1.5 by 2 feet long. They?d been told the plane?s ?black boxes? would in fact be bright orange, but these were charred black. The boxes had handles on one end and one was torn open. They cordoned off the area and called for an FBI agent, who in turn called for someone from the National Transportation Safety Board who confirmed the find: the black boxes from American Airlines Flight 77. ?We wanted to find live victims,? says Burkhammer. But this was a consolation prize. ?Finding the black box gave us a little boost,? he says.

Further.. "I held in my hand the tail section of the plane."
Have a look at the tail section of a 757...

Just sayin... For every story, there's one that contradicts..

So the sole method to deciding whether or not something is true is whether or not it's ever happened before?

I can't remember another instance of two 747's crashing into a skyscraper, so I guess that didn't really happen either.

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

kthxbai

you already stuck your foot in mouth when you said i didn't think airplanes hit the twin towers. i still didn't get a reply where i said this. as far as i'm concerned you don't have the mental capacity to follow along with this thread.

Piss off already retardboy. Get help. Get medicines. You're clearly sick in your head.

Let's all stop responding to this lunatic please, maybe he will go away.

I know i said it before but this really was my last reply to him. He's not worth our time. Let's ignore him.

no... you said witnesses never lie. right? thats what you said. so endless witnesses watched the planes fly into the towers. they watched the plane fly into the Pentagon. they sifted through the rubble to collect debris from the wreckage (including the black box in the Pentagon).

so, if witnesses don't lie. then you have to admit that a plane flew into the Pentagon. because witnesses saw the plane, the wreckage, the impact etc.

Ignore him dude. He's not sane. No point in explaining things to him.

i used to pull the trolls into these all the time

you make one alien thread or thread about 9/11
and they cant help themselves...they throw themselves off the cliff like lemmings..lol

i can literally see some people here frothing at the mouth..lol


goodtimes

Stop lying. You were one of those conspiracy nuts who came up with totally retarded theories all the time. People were laughing about you and calling you an idiot. You were about at the same level as that moron XXXMovie4M. Apparently you got the right help and are normal again but it's fucking pathetic to act if it was all a joke to you you dumb fuck.

I remember how you tried to convince us how a small hole on the inside walls of the Pentagon (created by debris from the plane) was evidence they used a missile because you thought it was on the ouside. Oh man...you are/were maybe even more dumb than that moron in this thread if that's even possible.

No I obviously just confused you with one of your other paranoid schizophrenic buddies on here. You guys have so many personalities it's hard to keep track.

Forgive me for not keeping an outline of all the minute details of your paranoid delusions. I didn't realize I would be tested later on which idiot believed which crackpot theory and why.

Media can and does lie - seen how world media was one-sided with Georgia's staged "Russian aggression" last year

Governments can and do lie - remember on what premises we went to Iraq

I'm sure there are more examples like above

So what makes 9/11 any different? was there total transparency in investigations? why some things don't add up logically? is Obama that bright he picked date resembling 911 emergency call (of course it's a coincidence). Why would you have your enemy be free and alive for such a long time after such a huge devastation?

and also is pressured democracy is still a democracy, right?

oh sorry, i thought it was you that said this. it must be another snake doctor.

here's the post incase you need to review it:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=437

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

so has anyone found a single building in the history of steel structures that collapsed like WTC 7?

are we to believe that it was a one in a million historical event that just happened to look exactly like a perfectly executed demo job?

are we to believe that larry silverstein said "pull it" when he was talking about a group of firefighters? do we refer to people as "it"?

are we to believe that a building has never completely collpased before due to fire and/or structual damage in the history of steel buildings but yet it happened to three of them on the same day?

WTC 7 was such an extremely well built structure that it was the mayors "safe place" in the event of an emergency like this and it was also the holding place for exteremly important government records but yet it collapsed in seconds! are we to believe it collapsed from fire and structual damage but the buildings on either side remained standing?