Design is an art,not a science. Engineering is a science until a bridge collapses. The towers were engineered to *potentially withstand a collision* with a 707 at takeoff/landing speeds of around 160knts. The amount of kinetic energy delivered from a fully loaded 757 at nearly 500knts could never be engineered and still built economically.

That's Kara the detailer.

Exotic High Tech Explosives Positively Identified in World Trade Center Dust
 

Exotic High Tech Explosives Positively Identified in World Trade Center Dust

A ground-breaking scientific paper confirmed this week that red-gray flakes found throughout multiple samples of WTC dust are actually unexploded fragments of nanothermite, an exotic high-tech explosive.

The samples were taken from far-separated locations in Manhattan, some as early as 10 minutes after the second tower (WTC 1) collapsed, ruling out any possible contamination from cleanup operations.

Authored by an international team of physicists, chemists, and others, the research paper was titled ?Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe.? It was published in The Open Chemical Physics Journal, 2009, Vol. 2., and is available online for free download. The lead author is Niels H. Harrit of the Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen.

The paper ends with the statement, ?Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.?

Ordinary thermite burns quickly and can melt through steel, but it is not explosive. Nanothermite, however, can be formulated as a high explosive. It is stable when wet and can be applied like paint.

The presence of pre-planted explosives in the WTC buildings calls into question the official story that the buildings were destroyed by the airplane collisions and fire alone. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the official government agency that investigated the building collapses, did not test for residues of explosives.

Richard Gage, AIA, said, ?This peer-reviewed scientific study of the disturbing contents of the WTC dust is yet another smoking gun proving to the over 600 Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth) who I represent that a real investigation must be carried out immediately as to the actual cause of the destruction of the 3 WTC high-rises on 9/11.?

One of the paper?s co-authors is AE911Truth researcher/editor Gregg Roberts. When Roberts signed the AE911Truth petition demanding a new 9/11 investigation, he wrote, ?What struck me on 9/11 was how much dust was created.? Now, over 7 years later, Roberts has an intimate appreciation for that dust. The steel was removed and destroyed very quickly after the catastrophe, despite loud protests from fire fighters and others. It was destruction of the primary evidence at a crime scene. The dust, however, remains as a key piece of physical evidence.

The nine coauthors are Niels H. Harrit, Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Denmark, Jeffrey Farrer, Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University, Steven E. Jones, S&J Scientific Co., Provo, UT, Kevin R. Ryan, 9/11 Working Group of Bloomington, Bloomington, IN, Frank M. Legge, Logical Systems Consulting, Perth, Western Australia, Daniel Farnsworth, Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University, Gregg Roberts, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Berkeley, CA, James R. Gourley, International Center for 9/11 Studies, Dallas, TX, and Bradley R. Larsen, S&J Scientific Co., Provo, UT.

Source: AE911Truth

I am much more interested in what really happened at Dealy Plaza and Roswell. I didn't get to watch those events live on television.

they really fucked up when they brought building 7 down. their greed got the best of them and they had to get rid of all the enron records.

this building was the mayors "safe" place in the event of an emergency but yet it collpased perfectly.

if this is the case then it should put demo companies out of business. all you have to do is light a few floors on fire and watch it crumble.

I wasn't aware that anyone had gone to prison for their part in 9/11

probably the best of all the evidence is the way the towers dropped at free-fall speed..

the lower floors would not collapse that fast and pancake at such a speed had their not been something like a really stealth explosive to melt/explode the beams on all/some levels... the dust sure does appear similar to a demolition... with help from the planes coming in blowin the shit out of everything with all that gas onboard...

but whats with the military plane with no windows? kinda reaching eh? I dont remember any of that... I sat in front of the tv for weeks after that shit happened..

You use the word evidence..that suggests a crime. Who are you thinking was behind this crime?

how can the government prosecute itself? we can't even get a president to admit he got a blowjob!

most people don't see a problem with a building collapsing like a house of cards into it's own footprint. i've even heard people say "well, aren't they suppose to do that so they don't fall over and destroy buildings around it?"

can you imagine working in a building knowing that the engineers didn't design it for your safety but rather the safety of building surrounding it!

most people don't realize how hard it is to "pull" a building even when done by experts who spents weeks carefully planning it.

here's the fottage of WTC 7 coming down from exterior and minor fire damage:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A

if the floors that caught on fire collapsed, wehy would the entire building collapse? they wouldn't, the floors would pancake each other and stop. now here's what happens when a demo job fails. as you can clearly see the building stops collapsing because the explosives failed.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rIEBLdd6W3Q

https://youtube.com/watch?v=UsePU...eature=related

now why wouldn't these buildings keep going right into the ground once the momentum has started?

I was under the impression that thermite (what they just found) was a common substance you would expect to find flake off either during the original steel construction or in this case the explosive combination of iron aluminum and fuel that happened after.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a0bd307e2a.jpg

lol @ all the people still in denial.

John Farmer, former Senior Counsel for the "official" 9/11 Commission even has a new book coming out where he explains how the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11. But most of you all still think authority is synonymous with credibility. Like that idiot earlier in the thread who was like, "Well I watched a documentary about 9/11 on NOVA and they didn't say anything about explosives, so it must not be true!" lmao

I am not buying the " USA gov did it " but I do enjoy pulling Pleasurepays panties up his crack ...

It is funny to see how he starts by saying that a 707 and a 767 are like nothing similar ... then I post specs and illustration of the planes and now it is another bla bla bla ....

This guy is such a douche ....

Passports are not plain paper on a desk .... Passports are somehow a bit more heavy and compact...

Also, most travellers keep them either in their interiorjacquet/shirt pockets or in a carrying bag ....

How many "non-terrorists" passports did they find ????? :2 cents:

logic ???? which logic ????

How about facts about airplanes :
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=114

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How about facts about airplanes :
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=114

http://riseuprochester.files.wordpre...comparison.gif

Hmmmmm. Why do you think?

the report seems pretty valid to me , but the video made me laugh.
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/r...tc_videos.html

The guy basically says explosives were not used because nobody heard a boom .. lol

That sounds a bit odd. Obviously there is some truth to it but i would think there are other scientific ways to test if explosives were used.

I sometimes think the government left some clues on purpose. Like the passport, or building 7, for the sole purpose of firing up the conspiracy theories. The thing is, once the conspiracy theories get going, you never get to the truth.

But that's assuming the people behind this (if that is indeed the case) are pretty smart.

But for you older folks you might remember how Howard Hughs was used by the U.S. government in a plot to recover a disabled submarine. Howard Hughs claimed to have built a giant ship to "mine" the ocean for minerals and make billions. He even showed the ship off in a huge ceremony. However, the real purpose of the ship was to find the missing submarine and raise it from the sea floor without the Soviets knowing. The plan worked, but it shows how the government likes to hide it's biggest secrets in plain site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Gl...orer_(T-AG-193)

The point is, the government has no problem asking for and receiving the help of big business to carry out it's covert operations. Take a look at how much some people made off of the twin towers collapse, it's in the billions.

People just don't get it...
If it was an insider job, and the motive was to start a new war or "world order" or whatever, they didn't have to tear the WTC buildings down. The airplanes crash would be enough. In fact, attacking Pentagon only, would be sufficient. Even without daylight...
With conspiracies, you do not leave traces behind. Even Bush is not that stupid.

Once again moron how exactly is it supposed to collapse according to you? You know how gravity works do you?

The reason why an act like this worked is that people can't comprehent what "evil people" are capable doing..

"Naaa, I don't believe that anyone would ever do anything that evil"

Etc etc..

That's why you can pull a stunt off like this..

That 3rd plane which went down... smells like that was planed for building 7 which already was rigged up with this thermite shit prepared for another mysterious collapse.. but no plane came..

So tell me mr expert the debris that falls faster than the building itself how fast is that exactly? Faster than free fall speed or something?
And same question to you as the moron above: How exactly was the building supposed to collapse instead?

What ? :1orglaugh

wow this debate still rages on here eh

fun..but it is like beating your head against the wall

some people see it one way..some another

some still fully believe in the one gunmen theory as well

I think it was butt buddies Dirty Fag and Warchild that blew up the towers. It was you niggaz, tell the truth niggaz.

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Could you narrow it down a bit from *The Government* did it to either the Democrats or the Republicans did it? It's fairly certain that there is no way possible that the dems and the repubs conspired together to bring down the WTC. If that had been the case they would still be debating over what color of airplane they should use.

Trading Places (1983) shot of the twin towers and then this (these guys are fucking smart who pulled off 9/11)

http://www.beyondthegrassyknoll.com/...gplaces911.jpg

How do you survive in the World? I mean, you're so fucking stupid that it must be a chore to not get run over everytime you go out.

Al Gore and his buttplugs did it. No doubt.

Have you ever taken a physics class? Perhaps you slept through the lecture about kinetic energy. When you slam an airplane into a brick wall or even a grassy lawn at 500 MPH.. there is not much left.

Guys like Pornofan really do a disservice to anyone actually seeking the truth.

Anyone that believes that a conspiracy kept so secret that nobody who participated, which must be in the thousands of people, has ever come forward would be hinted at through pop culture for years in advance is just beyond retarded. It's such a stupid concept I can't believe anyone can believe it and be able to work a message board.

Warchild = disinfo agent

or the biggest dumb ass in the world.

LOL.. This is great.

Ummm, that's false and absurd.

In the NOVA documentary you can see the actual moment the trusses fail from the heat stress. I repeat, you can see the actual frame on the video when the trusses fail from the heat stress. That's why NOVA is to be believed, not simply because it is "a movie that didn't mention something."

And, there is not one shred of evidence to indicate that explosives were used on any of the MANY 9/11 videos from many amateur videographers.

The only reason that 9/11 government conspiracy theories exist --is because conspiracy theorists WANT them to exist. Period.

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You realize you're simply insane right?

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I keep asking and nobody responds. You idiots keep crying about how the tower fell down straight which according to you means it was because of explosives. So then please answer me how else would've it have fallen down if it wasn't bombed? What was it supposed to do then?
And also no answer why the debris falls faster than the building. So the debris is actually falling faster than free fall speed?

Give me some answers so i can understand you great minds.