Tube sites seem like they've replaced the "user/pass" sites now, so even this guy's business model is now dead.

He stills sounds evil though, like a crazy character right out of a comic book :batman

:BangBang: Maybe he'll start taking out some tubes...

Shit happens... keep backups.

I guess in today's economy even the hackers are hurting. He's just looking for more business!

Put that damn Cat next to a KIA soul :1orglaugh

Posting in a potentially epic thread.

A few years ago good met evil. It was a valuable learning experience for us all.

You asked me on many occasions how would you stop unauthorized access. I never responded to you concerning that issue. I never responded because there is no way you can ever stop unauthorized access with what we have.

User: Shap
Pass : Twistys (example : not valid)

If you had the best log-on security possible how on earth can you stop a valid user/pass ?
If Shap/Twistys became inactive, it wouldn't stay inactive due to members using the same user/pass every time they renewed their membership. We always had access. Raped google and there was additional access. CAPCHA ment nothing. We were tearing apart Teen Topanga's network.
People thought it was brute force attacks. We never used that tactic, why would we.

Website owners were going crazy trying to stop the onslaught. They had no idea what they were up against. Strongbox may stop attacks but Strongbox cant stop authorized user/pass log-on's.

The email part of this entire ordeal was outrageous. We just dominated people in every aspect of their daily lives. They didn't know what hit them.
They had no idea at any given time their .com addy can be compromised. It was just pure domination. Google's data is fucking vicious!

We mastered a way of obtaining all this data from them.
When I say I read or have your billing logs that means I have your billing logs. Signor Shap along with many other experienced webmasters here will tell you, there is no fucking around.

Twistys was not the only site. We controlled Southern-Charms. You seen, our board is huge. One of my sponsors took me to Atlantic City. ( I posted pic's of that one ). Mexico, Canada, tons of trips to Fla, they were blown away by the magnitude of the board , shortly after you followed up with that Jose Theodore's contract on E-Bay. I laughed my ass off. (doing great with Washington)

I could not help you and you above all I wanted to help. I never seen anyone work so hard and willing to help so many than you.

Signor Shap, you are very respected in this industry and you're very respected in our circle.


Ciao Bella

"from here to ten-buck-two"

FYI its Timbuktu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu

google can index certain files that expose other files with data.. even robots.txt files can expose what you dont want exposed.. or there are programs that basically allow anyone to emulate password entry.. I come from the ooooold hacker dayz so this is not a big surprise... those holes can be blocked though.

fiddy...

htaccess cracking is very simple, its nothing advanced

i'm dumb, so help me out - what did he find through Google? htaccess and password files? he says he has billing logs - people who use 3rd party processors don't have billing logs. is he saying he got customers' credit card data?

In before the lock... no wait.... this is going on 4 years now... this will never get locked.

coolio :)

Real talk

Why go the google route when you could back-door directly on the user level and dump keylogs and everything else directly in your lap?

Conficker anyone?

so what is the point of this thread again?

anyhow, that was 2005. in 2009 things have changed. you can download it all on the tube sites anyhow, no need to crack passes any more. also most of the members areas nowadays are so shit you wouldn't even bother hacking them- it doesnt matter either if the surfer cancels cos they have already been gang raped by 2 cross sells from day one.

How do you think the content gets on the tube sites? People use stolen passwords and download all the content, stolen password sites are still hugely popular.

I'm getting some ready just in case...

Ehhh I used to brute force a bit in my younger days but now a days with a cable modem what is better then a tube site that ads daily.. who cares..

Can we see an example of your power? Like can you take down the 10 biggest tube sites plz :)

of cource imbed gfy.com all over them..

Nothing smart about it either. Quickest way to alert the administrator he or she is being attacked.



How do you know experiments are not being conducted on tubes as we speak?
To reiterate; The object is gaining undetected access. Obtaining sensitive information, and damaging their traffic. To take them down they'll be right back up in a few hours. What have you accomplished? Then they'll be waiting for which I wouldn't try again.
This isn't kiddy-City. This is peoples lively hoods your fucking with and they take it deadly serious!
Haven't your read what Signore Shap wrote?




Exactly!



Then again, some webmasters advertise on high traffic tubes which offer stolen content. The webmasters advertising on tubes are having their content stolen and displayed elsewhere. They send out a DMCA to have their stolen content removed as they profit off someone elses stolen content featured on tube sites. One big circle as everyone somehow is getting a peice of the pie.


One of many examples of getting away with shit right out in the open.
(Sorry admins, I do not know any other way to display this example)
it is unclickable.




Not your question but the time and effort discovering a backdoor would have been ridiculous.
Why would we need to dump keylogs when everything we need is sitting right there.

Great, you change your root. I can guarantee with-in a short period of time we'll have your root again. (Ask Boneprone). To this day he still don't now what the fuck hit him. There are many webmasters on this board just for the sake of saving face chose not to respond.

You can create a pass : N34QrZZTyMlB. It would be obtained as : N34QrZZTyMlB
Most didn't have the common sense to change their addys passwords. It didn't matter anyway. Some used one pass for everything. We gained access to entire lives through their email addresses using their most complex password attempts.

Many had images and scanned receipts of their most prized possessions uploaded onto their server. Private moment photos, safe combination's, copies of their birth certificate, social security cards, tax numbers, investment account numbers, the list is endless.
Some of these people chose not to delete this data out of their email.
If there wasn't a pass included, we simply went to the target site and used their "Lost Password" option. A few moments later the new generated pass was emailed.


Conflictor?
Throwing worms would draw Federal attention real fast!
The object was to be in and out undetected not setting off every bell and whistle.
and to re access at a later date if need be.


Ciao Bella

too long to read, I'm very tired of reading!

congrats you ripper

Start taking down the tubes and you will be a hero to many of us - otherwise all of your words are just blah blah blah....

If you are setting yourself up as the "Evil Hacker Guy" then prove it. No one gives a shit that you may or may not be able to gain access to anyone's pay site(s). All of our shit is going up on tubes anyway, and tubes are killing our sales.

If you want to be a show-off, then let's see you take down a few of the BIG tube sites.

all talk no dance

Hey, thanks for the sales, the entire Industry should thank the password sites for the years and years of sales that produced millions in revenue for us alone. Those attacks greatly helped expose most of us to massive amounts of people that we could turn into sales!

Still funny though, a password guy from the 2000's... kind of missed the 'dangerous' boat by about 8 years.

All PW protection systems stop authorized logins from multi ip ranges. I don't want to shock anyone, but that's what it's job is. Then when a re-leak happens, any paysite half paying attention, knows something is wrong... Programs have stopped re-leaks for years - while others don't care (ie: exposure = sales) they let the protection system allow people in and boot people out...


Anyone that has ran paysites for years knows password sites are of no danger to us. For sure a danger that is so easily corrected, yet "allowed." However - TODAY the dangers are different, it's not the password sites people fear... but controlling your re-leaks (instant leaks from processors like checks) will greatly help on most peoples piracy issues.

hahahaha!

Find your own hahahahahaha bitch to do the dirty work. I've already proven my point with webmasters that make you look fucking stupido.

I am not here to clean up a fucking mess some of you clowns started. To be straight up, I don't like a majority of you hemorrhoids anyway. Even more so you big mouth pussy punks.

Wake the fuck up assholes! Some of those tubes are owned or funded by the same webmasters on this very board. Everything's a big hush hush as they rake in the $.
Now get yourself a fucking life both of you hunk of shit nobody's!


Ciao Bella

:thumbsup

It's so frigging cool to be a thief!
I wanna be just like you.
You're my new role model!

Only some? I'd say all, actually.

Oh, I see what you're saying now. You are a totally useless idiot, with nothing to offer. Thanks for the clarification. Why didn't you just say that up front?

Honestly, Ciao Bella is right. Coming from the Network Admin background myself, I see what he's saying and find it all to be totally creditable. I would have no doubt that with he right talent he could rip anyone of us a new hole. I would only hope that he could use that power for some good. I don't think he's doing a bad thing by post this stuff here. A lot of people need to wake up and see the reality of the situation. There are a lot of forces at work to tear us down. Some of those forces are making more $$$ of your content that you are personally. Instead of banging the guy, maybe we should try and listen to him. It's the little sites like mine, I see one here whining and crying. But where are the big sites? Laughing all the way to the bank. There is a reason they are the BIG sites...

Trust me, I would give my left nut to have a glimpse into that world. Although my sites content might push some limits I could never resort to shady stuff and sleep with myself so I'm most likely destined to remain the size I am... or even eventually get wiped off the net, but only time will tell.

When that sad day does come where it's no longer feasible to pay hosting fee's, affiliate fee's, content fee's, credit card fee's, and equipment fee's I suppose I'll finally be gone. After 10 years I can see the writing on the wall. It really is only a matter of time till all the smaller independent sites are completely gone. Hell it's already been happening all around us, where are all the "mom and pop" sites you saw in 99-2002... gone.

Anyways, I would listen to what this guy has to say very carefully and try to learn something from it.

See, this is where you're all mixed up. We thought about that well before hand. There are proxy lists. With every user and pass that was used it's run through a specific proxy.
The original membership creators IP / followed by one to 5 proxies which kept the account active.



We ran like this for years without one single problem. Passes died, we had 100's more. Flipped this board on it's ear telling webmasters what we were going to do and then doing it. So who the fuck was not paying attention?
They were all foolish? Didn't mind having their content given away?
Take everything I have but did you see our colorful advertisement?

Exposure is sales ?
They are looking for free porn not clicking on and purchasing your fucking dick cream.
Our visitors didn't have that extra money to purchase anything, they were students.
What demographics of surfer are you or think your targeting?


If what you say is true and do not feel password sites are no danger / help you out tremendously why do you have a pay site ?
Just open it up.

I've seen a few say the same thing and it makes no sense to me.
How the fuck can you invest 100's of $1000 in content and do not mind unauthorized access?
Brazzers, Bang Bro's, they are so careless they just about give you the pass. How the fuck would a affiliate make money from that?


Ciao Bella

you beat me to it! :thumbsup

Removing tubes and torrents from the web is the only thing that will save this industry. The proliferation of free porn has gone waaaaay too far now. We are not discussing MGPs anymore.

If this biz was really run by tough guys, then the first tube site owner would have been found at the bottom of a lake with cement shoes, and this shit would have ended right away.

This guy comes on here boasting about all his evil knowledge and skills, but for what purpose? To let us know he can steal our passwords? Who cares? For $20 or $30 bucks any idiot can gain access to anyones site and post the info anywhere. That has always been the case.

This biz is not going down because of passwords, it's going down because of tubes, torrents and to some extent, cross sales.

Shy of addressing those issues, what else matters?

Ciao You seem to have a pretty indepth view of how the adult biz works, Your not telling us everything are you ?

Who do you really think is providing all the free content to the tube site etc in the first place?

Um, that would have been suicide... not murder. Your missing again the big picture of who's funding/running the sites.

First off, boosting yes, but informing that we should wake the fuck up. Second, these so called "idiots" are not paying that 20 or 30 bucks in the first place.

Any yet at the same time it seems like the very companies doing this are the ones being promoted. Get it strait, most affiliates care about 1 thing and one thing only... Making a quick buck and moving on to the next quick but. They for the most part could give a fuck how they got that $$$ as long as they got it. If this was not the case all programs would be recurring only as the smart affiliate could make a LOT more per sale in the long run. Tubes, torrents, etc are all basically morphs of the same thing. Cross sales are the necessary evil that has cropped up in order to pay for the high pps the industry has come to expect.