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Ozarkz 04-15-2009 09:22 AM

Carding is still very popular and a lot easier.

halfpint 04-15-2009 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 15746799)
Any yet at the same time it seems like the very companies doing this are the ones being promoted. Get it strait, most affiliates care about 1 thing and one thing only... Making a quick buck and moving on to the next quick but. They for the most part could give a fuck how they got that $$$ as long as they got it. If this was not the case all programs would be recurring only as the smart affiliate could make a LOT more per sale in the long run. Tubes, torrents, etc are all basically morphs of the same thing. Cross sales are the necessary evil that has cropped up in order to pay for the high pps the industry has come to expect.

:2 cents::2 cents:

Mutt 04-15-2009 09:30 AM

use your knowledge and connections to make money, playing porno Robin Hood to a bunch of college kids has got to get old fast. make money.

Boinkers 04-15-2009 09:33 AM

I'm curious after reading all this - how are you breaking into email accounts in the first place?

It's easy to find email addresses on the web, but how are you getting the passwords to those accounts? I assume it's most brute force attacks, but hotmail/yahoo/gmail lock the account after 3-5 attempts, so how are you breaking into them?

Joe BrainCash 04-15-2009 09:41 AM

My question for you Ciao Bella is:

Why come here and start this thread?

Just to insult the players in this industry? You're asking company owners to wake up but then again, you add your method can't be beaten...

I'm just not sure what your point is... apart that you are so great. Do you want this industry to find a solution to your method or you just came here to brag? Not clear... We need more info about your real intention and if you're just a problem or part of the solution.

Thanks

Mutt 04-15-2009 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boinkers (Post 15746857)
I'm curious after reading all this - how are you breaking into email accounts in the first place?

It's easy to find email addresses on the web, but how are you getting the passwords to those accounts? I assume it's most brute force attacks, but hotmail/yahoo/gmail lock the account after 3-5 attempts, so how are you breaking into them?

cuz people are idiots, many people use the same password for EVERYTHING, so he gets their paysite password and voila - it also works on their email account, and probably even their online banking account. my bank has a setting that makes you answer a personal question every time you log in and I enabled it.

Boinkers 04-15-2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 15746896)
cuz people are idiots, many people use the same password for EVERYTHING, so he gets their paysite password and voila - it also works on their email account, and probably even their online banking account. my bank has a setting that makes you answer a personal question every time you log in and I enabled it.

But he said he would get access to their email account first, then their paysite accounts via Forgot Password' functions.

So how does he get access to their email account in the first place?

Phoenix 04-15-2009 09:44 AM

do the safety dance

fris 04-15-2009 09:47 AM

I doubt ciao bella couldnt even hack himself out of a wet paper bag.

Iron Fist 04-15-2009 09:50 AM

Why crack passwords when you can have sponsors e-mailing you beta passwords even before the site is released... Whoa! Some might call that "7334"...

LOL.

mule 04-15-2009 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 15744445)
Sounds like Deepsie?

Nah. deepsy's english sucked big-time. On the other hand, it's quite a while ago, maybe he's learnt in the meantime.

Ozarkz 04-15-2009 10:03 AM

Hack the planet!!!!

Free kevin!!!!!

TRASH A TRASH A TRASH A THEY ARE TRASHING OUR RIGHTS TRASH AAAAAAAAAA

Nicky 04-15-2009 10:14 AM

hack-o-rama

SpicyM 04-15-2009 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 15746765)
If this biz was really run by tough guys, then the first tube site owner would have been found at the bottom of a lake with cement shoes, and this shit would have ended right away.


yeah, we need something like porn mafia :winkwink:

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-15-2009 10:20 AM

My balls smell of rotten cheese... methinks I'm gonna go take a shower...

Ozarkz 04-15-2009 10:27 AM

Can someone help me install this root script on my shell acount? I can run eggdrop.

TheDoc 04-15-2009 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15746740)
See, this is where you're all mixed up. We thought about that well before hand. There are proxy lists. With every user and pass that was used it's run through a specific proxy.
The original membership creators IP / followed by one to 5 proxies which kept the account active.

Huh? Yeah, that takes like 2 seconds to spot and correct, 5-6 logins, different ip's - it doesn't make a shit if it's proxy ip's or the isp ip's, we are talking about logins.. Come on..


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15746740)
We ran like this for years without one single problem. Passes died, we had 100's more. Flipped this board on it's ear telling webmasters what we were going to do and then doing it. So who the fuck was not paying attention?
They were all foolish? Didn't mind having their content given away?
Take everything I have but did you see our colorful advertisement?

Leaks and hacks can be stopped... not that hard to figure out why they let it continue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15746740)
Exposure is sales ?
They are looking for free porn not clicking on and purchasing your fucking dick cream.
Our visitors didn't have that extra money to purchase anything, they were students.
What demographics of surfer are you or think your targeting?

Are you saying college traffic is worthless? Amazing... That our ENTIRE Industry notices when College Students go to school and head home for summer vacation and even spring breaks... Bunch of broke bastards..

Just like Tube traffic DOES by porn memberships... So did and still does, password traffic. PW traffic isn't like it was, but leaks and attacks aren't like they were either.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15746740)
If what you say is true and do not feel password sites are no danger / help you out tremendously why do you have a pay site ?
Just open it up.

Then I would have a free site, and not a paid membership site.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15746740)
I've seen a few say the same thing and it makes no sense to me. How the fuck can you invest 100's of $1000 in content and do not mind unauthorized access?

You can download the content as a member, they aren't stopping that. Thus the content will get out, leaks will happen, and so on.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15746740)
Brazzers, Bang Bro's, they are so careless they just about give you the pass. How the fuck would a affiliate make money from that?

Affiliates cost money... While piracy, pw leaks, free content going out to every part of the world, getting millions and millions of more exposure, more people talking, more people linking, more people sending an email... makes them pure 'net profits.'

More exposure on the content, in more areas, also equals more affiliates.. more affiliates, means more chance someone is doing good, and more people talking about them, thus again.. more affiliates.

The end result.. more affiliates, more exposure, more piracy, more pw leaks.... bringing in more traffic and more sales, for THEM..

Why do you think the biggest of the biggest programs (not all of them) own tubes, allow piracy, allow massive leaks, some have never spoken about it, they buy traffic from them, they bought toolbar traffic, newsgroup traffic, they know EXACTLY what massive exposure does across every possible medium..

Seems to me, a few people making hundreds of millions get it while the mass majority trying to catch up bitch about it.

Ozarkz 04-15-2009 10:49 AM

I like TheDoc and Relentless they always have something intelligent to say that isn't bs or immature.

dirtysouth 04-15-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 15744445)
Sounds like Deepsie?

Is he outta the pokey? Been a while since I heard that name. Believe it's "Deepsy". :winkwink:

_Richard_ 04-15-2009 12:37 PM

"Originally Posted by Savaged00d
Hello. First let me introduce myself. I'm yet another, how you like to call them "hacker". Only difference is, that ciaobella is a poor script kiddie bruteforcer that learned to operate senty/AD/caecus and the likes, and now he thinks he owns the world. I've followed the conversation thus far from outside as many of us do, since we always keep a close eye on all webmaster boards, and didn't interfere untill i saw some of you started "believeing" this clown.

It's true most of you dont know the first thing about security, so what he wrote might seem "Advanced" to you, but that's all kiddie stuff. Half of that was even described in a bruteforce tutorial that comes with one cracking tool. "Ciao bella" is a moron and a newbie. I like how he posts screenshots of his board wiht "200" pages of replies or what not. He probably has 5 replies per page and the thread in a continuous one. With that setup, i know much larger forums that would rack that up to 1000's. Another thing i like is how he speaks for "all" crackers. Another bullshit. There's shitload of more boards and crackers. Paying to him for "stoping to bruteforce your site" (HA HA) wouldn't make up for a single thing in your breached logins. Most of the stuff he wrote was bullshit.
"logs of billing companies???" - Like he has access to any of the billing company. He'd be advertising to them, not to you if he had.
"Ip from mexico bla bla, bullshit bullshit" - Just a proxy found on any cracker board

And last thing. Since he must know most of us actually read this stuff, and we obliterate from internet anyone that contacts with webmasters (as that's the first and most important rule of this trade) he's hiding his board name. We have our world, you have yours. We do this stuff cause of the challenge, not cause of the financial gain (not talking about puny brutefocing). And when we find out the url of his board, you can be sure he'll see what DDoS actually feels like, and how it feels to have your bandwidth sucked right infront of you in a matter of minutes. We'll handle our stray sheep.

Bye"

found this on the other thread, buddy seemed to miss it at the time

Ozarkz 04-15-2009 12:40 PM

:1orglaugh

Loch 04-15-2009 12:45 PM

Richard, that post was from the original thread back in the day?

buyandsell 04-15-2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15744420)
How we ripped you the F off and stole your shit!

I was around here awhile back as a very talented skiddie. I made my destructive & intrusive presence known to quite a few. Created one of the best, informative, & memorable GFY threads of 2005. The heavy hitters on this board know exactly what I'm talking about, exactly who I am and exactly what I am capable of doing.

I owned one of the biggest user/pass message boards on the internet. We catered to .edu & only .edu addys .

My theory was why pay 19.99 and up membership fees when you can access it for free. An associate of mine designed and developed a program that raped google of any and all data which included passes. We had access to any site on the net. That was the start of it all.

A lot of college students frequented our forums. As time passed we recruited computer science majors involved in everything from server architecture to encryption. They didn't give a fuck, it was free porn. When one wasn't around there were countless others to fill their shoes. We entertained universities from here to ten-buck-two.


Some websites required your email addy as a user. Some dimwits used their actual email addy password as the password on the website. Viola, when we raped google, not only did we gain access to their paid membership, we had access to their email account too.
You would not believe what data can be obtained in emails.

There are no security measures on a email accounts boys and girls.

Lost password feature =
sent to your addy =
we have access to your addy =
we own you.
(You never knew security was breached)

We gained root to some loud mouth named bonepron.
(Let that bitch deny it. I'll dig up that post where he was going into cardic arrest
over his precious root pass)

Gained Sysop status on Xerox's network services then told them how we did it
(Could have ripped them a new ass)

Gained root and could have destroyed California Pimp
(Great vids / Great site dickhead of a owner)

Many took banking / credit account numbers and went on wild international spending sprees.
(Never caught)

When I say we owned you, I mean we fucking owned you.


What are your website log-on security measures now?




Hey jerkoff, we already have countless user/pass's to your hunk of shit website so shove your 3 log-on attempt security up your ass.

Strong box?

Get the fuck outta here. You don't need to crack strongbox or any other bullshit ass log-on with CAPCHA when you have the working user/pass.

You can have Ft. fucking Knoxx as your security but if your billing company is weak you're weak!

Some of you can be so fucking stupid.

Take what I have offered here and work off of it to your own personal needs.

Maybe now you'll understand my signature.

Bravo the pron industry, Bravo!


Ciao Bella


You know the truth about this thread if you had half a brain or skills you could have made money working with the industry.

While you were brute forcing paysites, people were getting into one guys server and making money with the other guy.

I heard of people who broke into processors, download a database of 150,000 names, addresses, cc's, etc.. Throw the CC numbers away cos that was illegal - make $100k mailing then selling the emails on!

Meanwhile you are helping college students jerk-off for free! Bravo!

Ozarkz 04-15-2009 12:58 PM

fuckin script kiddies.

CurrentlySober 04-15-2009 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 15744758)
curioius whats a signore?


Someone who surfs GFY with Sigs turned off? :winkwink:

Ciao bella 04-15-2009 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15747180)
Huh? Yeah, that takes like 2 seconds to spot and correct, 5-6 logins, different ip's - it doesn't make a shit if it's proxy ip's or the isp ip's, we are talking about logins.. Come on..

It could take less than 2 seconds. The webmasters didn't care to sit monitoring their logs waiting for numerous log-on attempts. If so, times that by 100's if not 1000's of authorized user/passes.
Have a normal client create his account from home. Chose to view it at his friends house. Look again at work, he would be banned ? Your customers will think you're operating a Micky mouse operation. Times that by correcting inconvenienced members problem while still facing other numerous log-on's. You're making it sound like it's a piece of cake which it is not.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15747180)
Affiliates cost money... While piracy, pw leaks, free content going out to every part of the world, getting millions and millions of more exposure, more people talking, more people linking, more people sending an email... makes them pure 'net profits.'

More exposure on the content, in more areas, also equals more affiliates.. more affiliates, means more chance someone is doing good, and more people talking about them, thus again.. more affiliates.

The end result.. more affiliates, more exposure, more piracy, more pw leaks.... bringing in more traffic and more sales, for THEM..

Why do you think the biggest of the biggest programs (not all of them) own tubes, allow piracy, allow massive leaks, some have never spoken about it, they buy traffic from them, they bought toolbar traffic, newsgroup traffic, they know EXACTLY what massive exposure does across every possible medium..


Profits from what ?
We can access TheDoc's.com for all his content. Enter and rape the hell out of his site.
Where is there pure profit in that ?
Your costly content is everywhere, it's all been seen, why would anyone pay to join your site when it's already been released ? ... You purchase more exclusive content only to have it raped again.
Why are all these webmasters sending DMCA notices to have their content removed from sites ? So what the heck are you talking about with exposure ?
What good is your great traffic when nobody is spending money ?

Straight to the meat. How do you profit from that ?


Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 15747806)
"Originally Posted by Savaged00d
Hello. First let me introduce myself. I'm yet another, how you like to call them "hacker".

You're a idiot that's going to be embarrassed come playoff time. St. Louis in 5 since Vancouver only made 1 Cup appearance 1982 ( I was still in diapers ) and only made the playoffs four times for the rest of the decade. You must be accustomed to losing!



Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 15747806)
Most of the stuff he wrote was bullshit.
"logs of billing companies???" - Like he has access to any of the billing company. He'd be advertising to them, not to you if he had.

http://www.gfy.com/8541672-post149.html


Signor, I am happy a majority of the great Canadian people are not as ignorant as you!


Ciao Bella

Jakez 04-15-2009 01:30 PM

So why not use your skills for good and help fuck up the lives of the owners of these major tube sites? Instead of people trying to take them down legally in court and the like (hard to do), they could pay someone like Ciao bella to ruin them with illegal methods and give them a taste of their own medicine.. :2 cents:

_Richard_ 04-15-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15748075)






You're a idiot that's going to be embarrassed come playoff time. St. Louis in 5 since Vancouver only made 1 Cup appearance 1982 ( I was still in diapers ) and only made the playoffs four times for the rest of the decade. You must be accustomed to losing!


http://www.gfy.com/8541672-post149.html


Signor, I am happy a majority of the great Canadian people are not as ignorant as you!


Ciao Bella

well, 94 would be the one i was around for, but 82 would be the previous chance before that yea

st. louis in 5 sure.. i remember beating that team once or twice in the playoffs, so not very worried.

not sure if you're addressing myself or shap, i was simply making sure you noticed this post because he called you out pretty good.

just trying to be helpful!

_Richard_ 04-15-2009 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 15747837)
Richard, that post was from the original thread back in the day?

yea, someone quoted it on page 4 or something

Vexes 04-15-2009 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15744712)
A few years ago I was taught a valuable lesson. You cross the wrong person and you are one command enter key away from having your entire site wiped out.



is that when you got into the domain hijacking biz

2012 04-15-2009 01:56 PM

i just turn off ssh. if I need to get into the server I'll just drive there

TheDoc 04-15-2009 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15748075)
It could take less than 2 seconds. The webmasters didn't care to sit monitoring their logs waiting for numerous log-on attempts. If so, times that by 100's if not 1000's of authorized user/passes.

Oh, so by time we see one leak, you have 100's if not 1000's of new ones? Ha.. Whatever you think..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15748075)
Have a normal client create his account from home. Chose to view it at his friends house. Look again at work, he would be banned ? Your customers will think you're operating a Micky mouse operation. Times that by correcting inconvenienced members problem while still facing other numerous log-on's. You're making it sound like it's a piece of cake which it is not.

3 Logins that aren't going to happen back to back, but several hours apart, within the same general area/region/ip block in the world.. All be fine.

But your proxies CAN NOT do that and above you said 100's or 1000's... not 3.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15748075)
Profits from what ?

Huh? How does one profit from anything, they make money, selling something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15748075)
We can access TheDoc's.com for all his content. Enter and rape the hell out of his site.
Where is there pure profit in that ?

Because your visitors will either a) never buy ever ever ever... b) some clearly do buy
IE: Pure profit... the people that won't buy, I don't ever give a fuck about.. and I wouldn't have found the others without your hard work...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15748075)
Your costly content is everywhere, it's all been seen, why would anyone pay to join your site when it's already been released ? ... You purchase more exclusive content only to have it raped again.

Content is cheap man... super cheap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15748075)
Why are all these webmasters sending DMCA notices to have their content removed from sites ?

Because they don't want to be pirated?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15748075)
So what the heck are you talking about with exposure ?

Eyeballs = Exposure

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15748075)
What good is your great traffic when nobody is spending money ?

Tubes, Torrents, Piracy, warez, password sites, newsgroups, p2p, all of it, 100% of every source of traffic on the Internet has value. Someone, if not you or me, someone has made a fucking killing raping these traffic sources.. Traffic makes money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15748075)
Straight to the meat. How do you profit from that ?

Profit on content is easy... You can profit on a DVD before it touches the Internet, several times over - paid up front. Once online, clip sites, brokers, dvd download, vod/ppv sites, paysites, leased content feeds.. the list does go on..

Making profit on a Scene/DVD isn't really an issue for anyone kind half flaking through it. Other than maybe the people trying to do it all without staff.

Ciao bella 04-15-2009 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15748318)
Oh, so by time we see one leak, you have 100's if not 1000's of new ones? Ha.. Whatever you think..

I am not entertaining the topic of Brute Forcing!
We already have the User/passes.
The bigger the site the more user/pass's it has. Membership will run in general 30 days. Yes, no doubt about it! Well over a 100 hits on that one log-on. If you kill it after 3 log-on's from separate IP locations, there's 30 - 40 other valid user/pass's that will take it's place.

Capisci ?

Ciao Bella

TheDoc 04-15-2009 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella (Post 15748600)
I am not entertaining the topic of Brute Forcing!
We already have the User/passes.
The bigger the site the more user/pass's it has. Membership will run in general 30 days. Yes, no doubt about it! Well over a 100 hits on that one log-on. If you kill it after 3 log-on's from separate IP locations, there's 30 - 40 other valid user/pass's that will take it's place.

Capisci ?

Ciao Bella

Brute force attacks are so.... lame, so pre-2000, and easy to stop 8 years ago.

Of course, like a duh of course... the bigger a site is, the more user/pass records it has. But that doesn't mean YOU have more passwords for that. At that, 99% of the passwords you do have to sites, suck fucking ass or is to a fake members area, that you think is real.

And the big boys that don't care about leaks.. you aren't hurting them, you are helping them.

100's of logins on one username = 100s of blocked IP's.. and you don't have that many proxies at free will... And I can lock it down to the IP range only to login, country, state, zip, no-cross-country logins..... several backends do it this way now, and it's very easy to code in.

I'm starting to think the only 'passwords' you know of are the ones you try to find so you can spank the monkey for free...

alias 04-15-2009 04:51 PM

Faulken Tutch Et!


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