Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15788241)

Good point, i have found that buffering occurs much more when you have more programs running on your computer no matter what the download speed is. Can any techies confirm this? I have tested this with like 5 different computers each running x amount of processes all on the same download speed and sure enough, computers that were running less processes didnt buffer as much.

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15786834)

But you don't differentiate when making your bitch threads.

You're pissed that people give out full length vids also, even though that's 100% legal and ethical and whatever-else-ical.

So what is it that you're pissed at tubes for? Using your content without permission which you feel devalues the product you're selling?
OR

Giving away lots of full length vids and therefore, in your mind, taking away the surfer's reason to buy?

You lump these all together when you bitch about tubes, so trying to talk to you (and others who share your views) is like trying to nail jello to a wall.

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 15788891)

computer 101
the applications cycle getting processor time, they only do things when they have the processor (brains). So the more applications you have the less frequently the browser downloading get the processor. You can change the frequency by changing the priority of the application that is running, but most every day users will not know how to do that.

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15788996)

You have to be the biggest idiot of GFY. Everything you said above it wrong or isn't even my opinion.

I hope you get AIDS.

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15789160)

I don't even call myself a webmaster really.

Originally Posted by BV (Post 15789323)

Quoted for truth.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15788950)

Yes, that is exactly right. And that is why you really can't just stream video at a real high bit rate.

All the load is on the users cpu. So if I encode a streaming vid at 5 mbs and you have a 10 mbs connection, BUT you have an average computer with a normal cpu and the usual antivirus and other background tasks running...you are going to buffer like CRAZY.

The only way to really stream perfectly is the way ABC television does on their website. You can watch episodes of LOST on their that look just as good as on your t.v. and doesn't buffer or stutter at all. But, you have to download and install an executable file. And neither myself or anybody with any brains is ever gonna do that from a porn site! lol God only knows what kind of shit some of you guys would stick in that .exe file. Might as well just hand you all my money and credit cards. :1orglaugh

So yeah...it's the users CPU power that really determines what happens when you watch a stream. Me? I have a Dell T7400 with 16 gigs of RAM and dual quadcore 3.2gig cpu's.
So I can watch any stream and never have a problem. But not many surfers are using a ten grand computer.

And oh yeah...300 money makers.

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15790161)

Maybe so but I'm not worried about my future nor do I spend 5 hours a day on GFY bitching about people who are destroying my business like you do. Get a life dude.

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15790161)

Maybe so but I'm not worried about my future nor do I spend 5 hours a day on GFY bitching about people who are destroying my business like you do. Get a life dude.

Originally Posted by BV (Post 15790246)

I hate to burst your bubble, but I don't spend 5 hours a day on GFY.

Look at my post count.

And I'm glad you finally admit that you are destroying my business model along with 1000's of others.

What do you expect me to do, join in? Say Thank You?

Originally Posted by CrkMStanz (Post 15790260)

way to admit that you know exactly what you (and others like you) are doing to the business

/golfclap

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15782355)

...... Of course i make posts that better my own interests who the fuck doesnt? ........

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15782505)

....Since i made this post i have been approached by over 10 big sponsors telling me all the same thing, yes we have found the exact same results but were afraid to tell anyone for fear of getting slammed like you are but here is a password download all our videos and get them online as fast as you can......

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 15790526)

So it is save to call that last quote bullshit? LOL

Originally Posted by BV (Post 15790545)

bullshit or 10 programs so desperate they'll do anything :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15790553)

Not at all, 10 programs that are watching this thread and laughing at people like you. Dude why don't you just give it up? Are things really that bad for you right now? It's a good thing I didn't go in on that office with you, every month that would have went by I would have had to pay more of your share since your doing so bad now.

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15789305)

Gee, what a genius reply.

I guess when confronted with logic that you can't handle you just revert back to prison gangsta insult slinging.

Unlike you, I've never taken it in the ass in prison, so between the two of us, the AIDS thing is much more likely to be you.

Now that the personal insult thing is evened out, we can get back to the topic at hand, or you can just continue calling people who don't agree with you idiots.

I'm sure that's somewhere in the handbook of the National Parliamentary Debate Association. :rollseyes

Originally Posted by CrkMStanz (Post 15790260)

way to admit that you know exactly what you (and others like you) are doing to the business

/golfclap

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15791305)

Dood, you are a fucking moron. You misquoted me, put words in my mouth, and are just so wrong it is not even funny. Here is the new title of this thread:

TUBES MAKE MONEY BY STEALING CONTENT FROM CONTENT PRODUCERS (LIKE MYSELF) AND SENDING THE TRAFFIC IT PRODUCES TO DATING AND CAMS SPONSORS!

If you produce content and you want you full video on a tube site - fine. If want to buy licensed content to put on a tube site and run 5 hour clips - fine.

However, you can't take MY CONTENT (or anyone elses) without permission and just throw it on your stupid tube and send the traffic to THE COMPETITORS!

What does a content producer really have to gain by having their material whored out all over the internet by people that have no right to do so?

A little watermark traffic? Many tubes (like PornHub) actually crop out the watermarks or the episodes are taken from our DVD lines (where there is no watermark) and then retitled as the derivative internet works. Total violation of copyright.

It is my fondest wish that you are SLOWLY drawn and quartered.

Take you 4$ tube hosting and choke on it - BITCH!

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15791305)

Dood, you are a fucking moron. You misquoted me, put words in my mouth, and are just so wrong it is not even funny. Here is the new title of this thread:

TUBES MAKE MONEY BY STEALING CONTENT FROM CONTENT PRODUCERS (LIKE MYSELF) AND SENDING THE TRAFFIC IT PRODUCES TO DATING AND CAMS SPONSORS!

If you produce content and you want you full video on a tube site - fine. If want to buy licensed content to put on a tube site and run 5 hour clips - fine.

However, you can't take MY CONTNET (or anyone elses) without permission and just throw it on your stupid tube and send the traffic to THE COMPETITORS!

What does a content producer really have to gain by having their material whored out all over the internet by people that have no right to do so?

A little watermark traffic? Many tubes (like PornHub) actually crop out the watermarks or the episodes are taken from our DVD lines (where there is no watermark) and then retitled as the derivative internet works. Total violation of copyright.

It is my fondest wish that you are SLOWLY drawn and quartered.

Take you 4$ tube hosting and choke on it - BITCH!

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 15792258)

Jay, what do you think about our concept of a tube?
Would really love your opinion on it, and see what your thoughts are.

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15791305)

waaah waaaah waaaah

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15792913)

I own 2 of them. The are the evelution of a TGP and just part of business. I just don't jack other people's content.

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15793244)

I dont jack other peoples content either, but notice how I am attacked about tubes as if I do? Anyone else makes a tube post they are not attacked. Haters or what?

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15793201)

Nobody once in this thread has said that piracy is ok or that using content without a license is ok.
That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about something entirely different, but you still come in here and whine like a fucking baby about tube sites.

I ask you some questions to try and get you on the same page as everyone else, like "is it just piracy that bothers you or do you think full length licensed movies are the problem also" and you go all teenage girl with a bad hair day on me and tell me you hope I get AIDS.

Yeah, you're a businessman. :rollseyes

You're a gangsta punk who got lucky being in the right place at the right time by stumbling into the porn business, and I'm going to laugh my mother fucking ass off when your punk ass goes broke because you can't keep up with the evolution of the business.

At least you learned how to suck cock in prison, so you'll always be able to make a living somehow.

Welcome to my ignore list you fucking crybaby. :321GFY

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15793244)

I dont jack other peoples content either, but notice how I am attacked about tubes as if I do? Anyone else makes a tube post they are not attacked. Haters or what?

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15794338)

You help monetize illegal tube traffic, therefore you are aiding people who do steal content. If you had a site with huge volume and illegal content, would you take them out of your network?

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15794363)

Why dont u ask the same question of every big sponsor that buys spots on those same "illegal sites". DMCA every hear of it?

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15794461)

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15794498)

I'm soooo confused by this post..

Does Choker have an illegal tube? I thought it was Sponsor Content...? If so, what the hell is jay going off about?
.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15794498)

I'm soooo confused by this post..

Does Choker have an illegal tube? I thought it was Sponsor Content...? If so, what the hell is jay going off about?

I monetize piracy traffic.. Have said it for years, will say it for years to come. But it's my content... don't like, lick it!

So has 100% of all sponsors over 8 years old, almost all the top sponsors on gfy, the top sponsors for jay, and prob 80% of all sponsors. I don't care what piracy medium you hit, you can find almost all the top sponsors seeding and have been for years and years.

Heck just like 6 years ago, the brokers for p2p was nuts.. Every program with any money was buying..

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15793201)

Nobody once in this thread has said that pirates on the high seas require any special hats or undergarments. That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about something entirely different, we are discussing the pros and cons of Chinese take-out, regardless of your attire.

I ask you some questions to try and get you on the same page as everyone else, and suddenly I don't have bottled water?! What the fuck dude? I am not the Pope. I am not your sister-in-law's best friend. Get a life!

Yeah, you're a gangsta businessman punk with the rolling eyes.

What about Freshen Up Gum man, huh? Remember that stuff? It was squishy! Yeah, that's right!

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15791305)

Dood, you are a fucking moron. You misquoted me, put words in my mouth, and are just so wrong it is not even funny. Here is the new title of this thread:

TUBES MAKE MONEY BY STEALING CONTENT FROM CONTENT PRODUCERS (LIKE MYSELF) AND SENDING THE TRAFFIC IT PRODUCES TO DATING AND CAMS SPONSORS!

If you produce content and you want you full video on a tube site - fine. If want to buy licensed content to put on a tube site and run 5 hour clips - fine.

However, you can't take MY CONTNET (or anyone elses) without permission and just throw it on your stupid tube and send the traffic to THE COMPETITORS!

What does a content producer really have to gain by having their material whored out all over the internet by people that have no right to do so?

A little watermark traffic? Many tubes (like PornHub) actually crop out the watermarks or the episodes are taken from our DVD lines (where there is no watermark) and then retitled as the derivative internet works. Total violation of copyright.

It is my fondest wish that you are SLOWLY drawn and quartered.

Take you 4$ tube hosting and choke on it - BITCH!

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15758340)

All these tube hating threads are getting so old. All the ideas thrown around about how to destroy them, etc I mean come on guys. Tube sites are making a killing. After almost a year of research I have discovered why surfers that are given so much free porn still sign up and buy a membership. The people who are saying that tube sites traffic is garbage and the surfer never buys anything are the same people who are being laughed at by the big program owners that are buying up every available spot on tube sites.

As webmasters we surf the internet paying close attention to sites designs, methods, etc. For us it's a job. We cannot surf the internet without our webmaster hats on. It's impossible. We forget that most people surf the internet with 90% of their brain turned off.

Surfers are dumb as fuck. They dont pay attention to text much anymore, they are like 4 year olds. Give them a picture book they will spend hours looking at the pics. Give them a text book they lose interest in 5 seconds. Surfers are the same way.

The big programs found a long time ago that putting their full length movies on tube sites and linking to their paysite from it converted surfers. No logic in this right? I mean why the fuck would a surfer pay for a movie he gets for free? 2 reasons

1. People are collecters. They love to collect. The average surfer does not know how to download a flv movie to his computer.

2. Surfers are stupid. When they see a 2 minute clip on a tube site and you got 100 text links around the movie saying "This is a sample clip from the full length movie you can download by clicking here" they still dont see those 100 text links. They think that paysite only has 2 minute movies inside it and they sure as hell are not going to pay for access to two minute movies.

Believe me or not I dont care. I've done my research well on this. Clicks from under full length movies convert 4 times better than clicks from under 2 minute movies.

Originally Posted by duk75 (Post 19579943)

DO you still believe this?

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15758340)

All these tube hating threads are getting so old. All the ideas thrown around about how to destroy them, etc I mean come on guys. Tube sites are making a killing. After almost a year of research I have discovered why surfers that are given so much free porn still sign up and buy a membership. The people who are saying that tube sites traffic is garbage and the surfer never buys anything are the same people who are being laughed at by the big program owners that are buying up every available spot on tube sites.

As webmasters we surf the internet paying close attention to sites designs, methods, etc. For us it's a job. We cannot surf the internet without our webmaster hats on. It's impossible. We forget that most people surf the internet with 90% of their brain turned off.

Surfers are dumb as fuck. They dont pay attention to text much anymore, they are like 4 year olds. Give them a picture book they will spend hours looking at the pics. Give them a text book they lose interest in 5 seconds. Surfers are the same way.

The big programs found a long time ago that putting their full length movies on tube sites and linking to their paysite from it converted surfers. No logic in this right? I mean why the fuck would a surfer pay for a movie he gets for free? 2 reasons

1. People are collecters. They love to collect. The average surfer does not know how to download a flv movie to his computer.

2. Surfers are stupid. When they see a 2 minute clip on a tube site and you got 100 text links around the movie saying "This is a sample clip from the full length movie you can download by clicking here" they still dont see those 100 text links. They think that paysite only has 2 minute movies inside it and they sure as hell are not going to pay for access to two minute movies.

Believe me or not I dont care. I've done my research well on this. Clicks from under full length movies convert 4 times better than clicks from under 2 minute movies.