You guys are right, Choker is wrong.....there's no money in tubes.

Go back to submitting galleries and adding meta tags to your pages.

Nothing to see here.

Once again I must ask; Aren't you the money I could be saving if I switch to Geico?

Legal tubes are fine. I own 2 of them, it is merely the evolution of a TGP. Most of the big tubes, with the big traffic, don't give a fack about copyright. The ones that do give a fuck about copyright get far less traffic.

That is just the facts.

I couldnt let that one slide

Ive been doing biz with the dating sites for so long now, and I am always amazed at how few women actually sign up them

At least on POF there are some women who dont look like hannibal lectar

Sad but true. It's like the surfer is drawn to tube sites that dont care about copyrights

Yeah like, where the fuck those stats are coming from ?
Give me a break !

Oh yes, that's the bottom line.

When I was in the wedding business, I often encountered brides-to-be that were stunned at my rates ? "But my Uncle Charlie could do it for FREE!!!"

Sure, let him. But if you want quality without worries, that's going to cost you.

I made a lot more by being the most expensive shooter in town than I did by trying to make up margin with volume...

A great thread :-)

well the ones that take advantage of user submitted characteristic of the dmca have automagic referal strengh

i put up a video and tell all my friends you can get it here.

Basic common sense

The REAL way they make money...

is noone ever sees a full 20 min video

it buffers for an hour if they do.

The impression they will see a full video brings them there, the realization that they are in another circle jerk along with buffering from hell, makes them buy..

I have 1600 Mbits/sec or 200Kbytes/sec connection. I 've never see anything but buffering at redtube or any big tube.

Just something to consider. Good thread.

full length movies in LOW quality. Get on it before it's too late.

No I'm the money you could be saving if you got all your porn/music/movies from tubes and torrents. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

But you don't differentiate when making your bitch threads.

You're pissed that people give out full length vids also, even though that's 100% legal and ethical and whatever-else-ical.

So what is it that you're pissed at tubes for? Using your content without permission which you feel devalues the product you're selling?
OR

Giving away lots of full length vids and therefore, in your mind, taking away the surfer's reason to buy?

You lump these all together when you bitch about tubes, so trying to talk to you (and others who share your views) is like trying to nail jello to a wall.

Not true. Every big tube I've seen has pretty awesome content delivery. I will give them that.

Well that's easy enough to check. Click a redtube vid. If you can stream that at a decent rate to jack off to, then your a hornier surfer than me.

I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. Just that there is alot of buffering on most tubes so in reality does it matter how big the vid is. If your buffering all the time and, most tubes are, than "that is how tubes make money".

Most tubes are todays cjs with a pretty facade. I'm not really that impressed. The scripts all look the same too.

Just business as usual out there from what I see.

i'm backing zorgman here... he builds one of the better tube scripts with only Konrad's being probably tied or slightly better. Tube's are split into illegal ones with stolen content and legit ones with sponsored videos. They'll both make $$ and then it'll move onto another form of visual display.

Most scripts look the same for the most part IMHO.

If a guy could find a good way to import raw fhg's into an html page you could easily build a site that would blow a scripts socks off. I don't care about all the auto updating and bells and whistles on a script. Just build any site that doesn't look like a script and you have a surfers attention. The key is how do you build one. :) It can be done.

That last post is a little fucked up. lol I better get out of here and back into obscurity. I think I had enough tonight. Got 50 posts now. Yeah.

Please send them over to me, im sure my hq traffic on oneclicktube.com will be liked by them!

Good point, i have found that buffering occurs much more when you have more programs running on your computer no matter what the download speed is. Can any techies confirm this? I have tested this with like 5 different computers each running x amount of processes all on the same download speed and sure enough, computers that were running less processes didnt buffer as much.

computer 101
the applications cycle getting processor time, they only do things when they have the processor (brains). So the more applications you have the less frequently the browser downloading get the processor. You can change the frequency by changing the priority of the application that is running, but most every day users will not know how to do that.

Yes, that is exactly right. And that is why you really can't just stream video at a real high bit rate.

All the load is on the users cpu. So if I encode a streaming vid at 5 mbs and you have a 10 mbs connection, BUT you have an average computer with a normal cpu and the usual antivirus and other background tasks running...you are going to buffer like CRAZY.

The only way to really stream perfectly is the way ABC television does on their website. You can watch episodes of LOST on their that look just as good as on your t.v. and doesn't buffer or stutter at all. But, you have to download and install an executable file. And neither myself or anybody with any brains is ever gonna do that from a porn site! lol God only knows what kind of shit some of you guys would stick in that .exe file. Might as well just hand you all my money and credit cards. :1orglaugh

So yeah...it's the users CPU power that really determines what happens when you watch a stream. Me? I have a Dell T7400 with 16 gigs of RAM and dual quadcore 3.2gig cpu's.
So I can watch any stream and never have a problem. But not many surfers are using a ten grand computer.

And oh yeah...300 money makers.

You have to be the biggest idiot of GFY. Everything you said above it wrong or isn't even my opinion.

I hope you get AIDS.

I thought so. I never took any computer classes, lol and i consider myself a normal everyday user. I don't even call myself a webmaster really.

Gee, what a genius reply.

I guess when confronted with logic that you can't handle you just revert back to prison gangsta insult slinging.

Unlike you, I've never taken it in the ass in prison, so between the two of us, the AIDS thing is much more likely to be you.

Now that the personal insult thing is evened out, we can get back to the topic at hand, or you can just continue calling people who don't agree with you idiots.

I'm sure that's somewhere in the handbook of the National Parliamentary Debate Association. :rollseyes

What sites do you run Snake Doctor?

Quoted for truth.

Maybe so but I'm not worried about my future nor do I spend 5 hours a day on GFY bitching about people who are destroying my business like you do. Get a life dude.

another reason why streaming only site suck :winkwink:

I hate to burst your bubble, but I don't spend 5 hours a day on GFY.

Look at my post count.

And I'm glad you finally admit that you are destroying my business model along with 1000's of others.

What do you expect me to do, join in? Say Thank You?

way to admit that you know exactly what you (and others like you) are doing to the business

/golfclap

I'm destroying your business model? Your destroying your own business model by doing what you have always been doing and not adopting to the changing environment. The only person you have to blame for your impending poverty is yourself.

So i should not adopt and spend 5 hours a day bitching on GFY about how everyone is ruining my business, while I watch my bank account dry up? I dont think so.

So it is save to call that last quote bullshit? LOL

bullshit or 10 programs so desperate they'll do anything :2 cents:

Not at all, 10 programs that are watching this thread and laughing at people like you. Dude why don't you just give it up? Are things really that bad for you right now? It's a good thing I didn't go in on that office with you, every month that would have went by I would have had to pay more of your share since your doing so bad now.

Dude, I hate to burst your bubble again but do you actually think I ever considered sharing an office with you? lol

I don't need to save money like that.

But maybe you do. All that was your idea! :2 cents:

You approached me.
(at the same time you were trying to get me "to adapt" and get long clips from me)

Also, why do you give a fuck what I say anyways?

If your plan is so great, I wont have any affect on it.

Or are you finally realizing that your plan is killing the hand that feeds you and any negative comments hurts it?

Dood, you are a fucking moron. You misquoted me, put words in my mouth, and are just so wrong it is not even funny. Here is the new title of this thread:

TUBES MAKE MONEY BY STEALING CONTENT FROM CONTENT PRODUCERS (LIKE MYSELF) AND SENDING THE TRAFFIC IT PRODUCES TO DATING AND CAMS SPONSORS!

If you produce content and you want you full video on a tube site - fine. If want to buy licensed content to put on a tube site and run 5 hour clips - fine.

However, you can't take MY CONTNET (or anyone elses) without permission and just throw it on your stupid tube and send the traffic to THE COMPETITORS!

What does a content producer really have to gain by having their material whored out all over the internet by people that have no right to do so?

A little watermark traffic? Many tubes (like PornHub) actually crop out the watermarks or the episodes are taken from our DVD lines (where there is no watermark) and then retitled as the derivative internet works. Total violation of copyright.

It is my fondest wish that you are SLOWLY drawn and quartered.

Take you 4$ tube hosting and choke on it - BITCH!

Of course he knows he's destroying this biz. Traffic brokers already destroyed the TGP and MGP traffic pool now they might as well get busy fucking everyone else.

This thread is so nice! It just keeps on truckin' - Awesome!

At least we now know we're all on the same page regarding tube sites!

:pimp :thumbsup