GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   This is how tube sites make money (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=900496)

Jack Sparrow 04-27-2009 04:42 AM

Jay, what do you think about our concept of a tube?
Would really love your opinion on it, and see what your thoughts are.

jollyperv 04-27-2009 04:46 AM

You know, something I thought about as I read this thread...imagine how many sponsors have turned the shave up even more on their affiliates in this past year or so...they can get away with that shit even easier now and just blame the lower sales on the tubes

Mr.Right - Banned For Life 04-27-2009 05:33 AM

this thread rocks

xxxjay 04-27-2009 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 15792258)
Jay, what do you think about our concept of a tube?
Would really love your opinion on it, and see what your thoughts are.

I own 2 of them. The are the evelution of a TGP and just part of business. I just don't jack other people's content.

Jack Sparrow 04-27-2009 09:37 AM

Me neither, thats why i have sponsoraccounts. Sponsors can upload the videos they want to promote.

Lets talk on the messengers sometime, if you have some sparetime :)

Snake Doctor 04-27-2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15791305)
waaah waaaah waaaah

Nobody once in this thread has said that piracy is ok or that using content without a license is ok.
That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about something entirely different, but you still come in here and whine like a fucking baby about tube sites.

I ask you some questions to try and get you on the same page as everyone else, like "is it just piracy that bothers you or do you think full length licensed movies are the problem also" and you go all teenage girl with a bad hair day on me and tell me you hope I get AIDS.

Yeah, you're a businessman. :rollseyes

You're a gangsta punk who got lucky being in the right place at the right time by stumbling into the porn business, and I'm going to laugh my mother fucking ass off when your punk ass goes broke because you can't keep up with the evolution of the business.

At least you learned how to suck cock in prison, so you'll always be able to make a living somehow.

Welcome to my ignore list you fucking crybaby. :321GFY

Choker 04-27-2009 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15792913)
I own 2 of them. The are the evelution of a TGP and just part of business. I just don't jack other people's content.

I dont jack other peoples content either, but notice how I am attacked about tubes as if I do? Anyone else makes a tube post they are not attacked. Haters or what?

Snake Doctor 04-27-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15793244)
I dont jack other peoples content either, but notice how I am attacked about tubes as if I do? Anyone else makes a tube post they are not attacked. Haters or what?

Actually you can't say anything positive about tubes or even refer to them as a viable business model without the hater brigade led by xxxjay coming out to burn you in effigy.

That's what's so frustrating about these discussions. It's like they have piracy tourettes because that's all they can talk about even if you start the thread with a full page ad declaring that you in no way, shape, or form condone content theft.

xxxjay 04-27-2009 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15793201)
Nobody once in this thread has said that piracy is ok or that using content without a license is ok.
That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about something entirely different, but you still come in here and whine like a fucking baby about tube sites.

I ask you some questions to try and get you on the same page as everyone else, like "is it just piracy that bothers you or do you think full length licensed movies are the problem also" and you go all teenage girl with a bad hair day on me and tell me you hope I get AIDS.

Yeah, you're a businessman. :rollseyes

You're a gangsta punk who got lucky being in the right place at the right time by stumbling into the porn business, and I'm going to laugh my mother fucking ass off when your punk ass goes broke because you can't keep up with the evolution of the business.

At least you learned how to suck cock in prison, so you'll always be able to make a living somehow.

Welcome to my ignore list you fucking crybaby. :321GFY

Hate one brotha, hate on. :)

Snake Doctor 04-27-2009 02:07 PM

xxxjay
This message is hidden because xxxjay is on your ignore list.

:glugglug

xxxjay 04-27-2009 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15793244)
I dont jack other peoples content either, but notice how I am attacked about tubes as if I do? Anyone else makes a tube post they are not attacked. Haters or what?

You help monetize illegal tube traffic, therefore you are aiding people who do steal content. If you had a site with huge volume and illegal content, would you take them out of your network?

Choker 04-27-2009 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15794338)
You help monetize illegal tube traffic, therefore you are aiding people who do steal content. If you had a site with huge volume and illegal content, would you take them out of your network?

Why dont u ask the same question of every big sponsor that buys spots on those same "illegal sites". DMCA every hear of it?

xxxjay 04-27-2009 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15794363)
Why dont u ask the same question of every big sponsor that buys spots on those same "illegal sites". DMCA every hear of it?

A poorly written DMCA law is no excuse for piracy.

Pleasurepays 04-27-2009 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15794461)
A poorly written DMCA law is no excuse for piracy.

how much money do you lose everyday with your tube sites?

TheDoc 04-27-2009 03:51 PM

I'm soooo confused by this post..

Does Choker have an illegal tube? I thought it was Sponsor Content...? If so, what the hell is jay going off about?

I monetize piracy traffic.. Have said it for years, will say it for years to come. But it's my content... don't like, lick it!

So has 100% of all sponsors over 8 years old, almost all the top sponsors on gfy, the top sponsors for jay, and prob 80% of all sponsors. I don't care what piracy medium you hit, you can find almost all the top sponsors seeding and have been for years and years.

Heck just like 6 years ago, the brokers for p2p was nuts.. Every program with any money was buying..

BFT3K 04-27-2009 04:10 PM

Where did the term "tube" come from anyway? Is it because it all began with YouTube? What does "tube" refer to?

We will eventually have to subcategorize all of these tube variations soon, as it may be too vague a term nowadays.

If you set up pages which were once referred to as MGPs, but instead of wmv's or mpg's you offer streaming flash clips, what are those pages called now?

At 4 clips are you a "tube" site? How about at 40, or 400?

Unrelated; what ever happened to Freshen Up Gum - the gum with the liquid inside? I remember liking the green spearmint version.

Snake Doctor 04-27-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15794498)
I'm soooo confused by this post..

Does Choker have an illegal tube? I thought it was Sponsor Content...? If so, what the hell is jay going off about?
.

Jay has a pair of panties that immediately bunch up whenever he sees or hears the word tube.
They were custom made.

Since Choker either buys traffic from or sells traffic to sites that may or may not have unlicensed content, he's apparently part of the problem.

I guess people expect him to view every video on every site he brokers for or sells to and cross reference those videos with licensing agreements before he sells the traffic for .007 per click. :1orglaugh

I was told last year that I was supporting illegal tubes because I had a server with Choopa, and they host Red Tube.

It's gotten pretty ridiculous. Half of GFY has tube tourettes, and they just go the fuck off when they see or hear the word tube.

I hear there was one incident where a GFY'er was having a heart attack, and he beat the shit out of the ER doctor when the doctor told him they were going to put a tube down his throat to help him breathe.

It's not as if GFY was ever really big on rational discussions, but it's never been this bad.

Choker 04-27-2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15794498)
I'm soooo confused by this post..

Does Choker have an illegal tube? I thought it was Sponsor Content...? If so, what the hell is jay going off about?

I monetize piracy traffic.. Have said it for years, will say it for years to come. But it's my content... don't like, lick it!

So has 100% of all sponsors over 8 years old, almost all the top sponsors on gfy, the top sponsors for jay, and prob 80% of all sponsors. I don't care what piracy medium you hit, you can find almost all the top sponsors seeding and have been for years and years.

Heck just like 6 years ago, the brokers for p2p was nuts.. Every program with any money was buying..

I do not have any illegal tubes, all content I use is either licensed or sponsor provided. The hater's and losers on GFY just love to attack me because I have programs that help tube sites make money. And what's REALLY REALLY funny is how whenever I make a post about anything I get attacked for making posts just to spam my shit. If I make a post saying I got tube traffic for sell the haters come out with the "Oh you can't sell your shit traffic so you have to post on GFY" Doesn't really matter all the haters are nothing in this business and are of no consequence to anyone except themselves.

BFT3K 04-27-2009 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15793201)
Nobody once in this thread has said that pirates on the high seas require any special hats or undergarments. That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about something entirely different, we are discussing the pros and cons of Chinese take-out, regardless of your attire.

I ask you some questions to try and get you on the same page as everyone else, and suddenly I don't have bottled water?! What the fuck dude? I am not the Pope. I am not your sister-in-law's best friend. Get a life!

Yeah, you're a gangsta businessman punk with the rolling eyes.

What about Freshen Up Gum man, huh? Remember that stuff? It was squishy! Yeah, that's right!

Snake Doctor,

I keep re-reading your message, and I can't help but think it may have been altered in some way. Why are tubes called tubes?

BFT3K 04-27-2009 05:13 PM

Where did the term "tube" come from anyway? Is it because it all began with YouTube.com? If so, why did they refer to the tube term to begin with?

We will eventually have to subcategorize all of these tube variations soon, as it may be too vague a term nowadays.

If you set up pages which were once referred to as MGPs, but instead of wmv's or mpg's you offer streaming flash clips, what are those pages called now?

At 4 clips are you a "tube" site? How about at 40, or 400?

Unrelated; what ever happened to Freshen Up Gum - the gum with the liquid inside? I remember liking the green spearmint version.

CaptainHowdy 04-27-2009 05:28 PM

So much hate in this thread... I feel like home.

Brad Mitchell 04-27-2009 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15791305)
Dood, you are a fucking moron. You misquoted me, put words in my mouth, and are just so wrong it is not even funny. Here is the new title of this thread:

TUBES MAKE MONEY BY STEALING CONTENT FROM CONTENT PRODUCERS (LIKE MYSELF) AND SENDING THE TRAFFIC IT PRODUCES TO DATING AND CAMS SPONSORS!

If you produce content and you want you full video on a tube site - fine. If want to buy licensed content to put on a tube site and run 5 hour clips - fine.

However, you can't take MY CONTNET (or anyone elses) without permission and just throw it on your stupid tube and send the traffic to THE COMPETITORS!

What does a content producer really have to gain by having their material whored out all over the internet by people that have no right to do so?

A little watermark traffic? Many tubes (like PornHub) actually crop out the watermarks or the episodes are taken from our DVD lines (where there is no watermark) and then retitled as the derivative internet works. Total violation of copyright.

It is my fondest wish that you are SLOWLY drawn and quartered.

Take you 4$ tube hosting and choke on it - BITCH!

Definitely the best use of font size changes to holler at someone in a while :1orglaugh

Brad

duk75 04-15-2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15758340)
All these tube hating threads are getting so old. All the ideas thrown around about how to destroy them, etc I mean come on guys. Tube sites are making a killing. After almost a year of research I have discovered why surfers that are given so much free porn still sign up and buy a membership. The people who are saying that tube sites traffic is garbage and the surfer never buys anything are the same people who are being laughed at by the big program owners that are buying up every available spot on tube sites.

As webmasters we surf the internet paying close attention to sites designs, methods, etc. For us it's a job. We cannot surf the internet without our webmaster hats on. It's impossible. We forget that most people surf the internet with 90% of their brain turned off.

Surfers are dumb as fuck. They dont pay attention to text much anymore, they are like 4 year olds. Give them a picture book they will spend hours looking at the pics. Give them a text book they lose interest in 5 seconds. Surfers are the same way.

The big programs found a long time ago that putting their full length movies on tube sites and linking to their paysite from it converted surfers. No logic in this right? I mean why the fuck would a surfer pay for a movie he gets for free? 2 reasons

1. People are collecters. They love to collect. The average surfer does not know how to download a flv movie to his computer.

2. Surfers are stupid. When they see a 2 minute clip on a tube site and you got 100 text links around the movie saying "This is a sample clip from the full length movie you can download by clicking here" they still dont see those 100 text links. They think that paysite only has 2 minute movies inside it and they sure as hell are not going to pay for access to two minute movies.

Believe me or not I dont care. I've done my research well on this. Clicks from under full length movies convert 4 times better than clicks from under 2 minute movies.

DO you still believe this?

bean-aid 04-15-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duk75 (Post 19579943)
DO you still believe this?

Does he still sell traffic? That was his business in 2010, 2011, maybe 2012.

Weird...

Supz 04-15-2013 10:56 PM

and oldie but a goodie.

notinmybackyard 04-16-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 15758340)
All these tube hating threads are getting so old. All the ideas thrown around about how to destroy them, etc I mean come on guys. Tube sites are making a killing. After almost a year of research I have discovered why surfers that are given so much free porn still sign up and buy a membership. The people who are saying that tube sites traffic is garbage and the surfer never buys anything are the same people who are being laughed at by the big program owners that are buying up every available spot on tube sites.

As webmasters we surf the internet paying close attention to sites designs, methods, etc. For us it's a job. We cannot surf the internet without our webmaster hats on. It's impossible. We forget that most people surf the internet with 90% of their brain turned off.

Surfers are dumb as fuck. They dont pay attention to text much anymore, they are like 4 year olds. Give them a picture book they will spend hours looking at the pics. Give them a text book they lose interest in 5 seconds. Surfers are the same way.

The big programs found a long time ago that putting their full length movies on tube sites and linking to their paysite from it converted surfers. No logic in this right? I mean why the fuck would a surfer pay for a movie he gets for free? 2 reasons

1. People are collecters. They love to collect. The average surfer does not know how to download a flv movie to his computer.

2. Surfers are stupid. When they see a 2 minute clip on a tube site and you got 100 text links around the movie saying "This is a sample clip from the full length movie you can download by clicking here" they still dont see those 100 text links. They think that paysite only has 2 minute movies inside it and they sure as hell are not going to pay for access to two minute movies.

Believe me or not I dont care. I've done my research well on this. Clicks from under full length movies convert 4 times better than clicks from under 2 minute movies.

Show your tax returns, bank statements and ownership paper of the most expensive car you own. Otherwise I say this is a scam.

Production of films is dead and the majority of horny men surfers have been swallowed up by Facebook. Therefore tube sites are now starting to feel the shortage of content and uploaders. Many advertisers are also seeing that the tube site traffic tends to convert to nothing.

The only thing you wrote that I agree with is that surfers are stupid. In fact 99% of the Internet is stupid.

ps. I am not going to read 7 pages of bla bla bla bla


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:39 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123