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Loryn 04-19-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15761193)
Im sorry that happened.But didnt he bite you before Loryn? You should muzzle him when he is outdoors. If he got so spooked he seriously hurt the kid. You could lose everything in a lawsuit and he would be put to death which would be a shame. Training is a very smart thing to do and some dogs just aren't good around kids.If my old boston CJ would have been around kids it would been a biting waiting to happen. The old bastard was mean. lol

Yes I am getting a muzzle so when he is on his walks, well runs, he will have a muzzle just in case!!! Thank you Tony!!!

Spunky 04-19-2009 05:30 PM

I think any dog no matter how much training would have done that.it's their instinct.it's a shame and bad luck it happened,good it wasn't too serious

Loryn 04-19-2009 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 15761271)
oh my, not good, I hope it all turns out okay for you guys!

did you have him on a leash? honestly, regardless of how much training someone claims their dog has, I cannot stand seeing people let their dogs off a leash in public. It does not matter, if something happens they WILL react, they are dogs and creatures react just like humans would. If I am in public (dog parks would be an exception), and someone has their dog off a leash it makes me very nervous. They are not human children, they are animals, and in public should be on a leash at all times. Especially around others.

good luck Loryn and Lars, glad the people were nice!

He was on his leash, on my blanket, sitting down next to me. I would never have him off a leash around people!!! She just happened to fall right in arms length from myself and Lars!!! It is still my fault no matter what. He should not bite anyone, especially a child. If it was a grown man who happened to fall on the blanket then I could see him biting, but a little girl??? It is like Warchild wrote though, he is a dog and they see things different than us, to him that child was almost like a toy or something he plays with as prey!!! I just wish I could call her and find out how she is and make sure she is okay. I know she is fine and the mother is taking her to see her doctor tomorrow but I feel so horrible for her!!! :(

GAMEFINEST 04-19-2009 05:38 PM

sorry to hear that

cherrylula 04-19-2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn (Post 15761302)
He was on his leash, on my blanket, sitting down next to me. I would never have him off a leash around people!!! She just happened to fall right in arms length from myself and Lars!!! It is still my fault no matter what. He should not bite anyone, especially a child. If it was a grown man who happened to fall on the blanket then I could see him biting, but a little girl??? It is like Warchild wrote though, he is a dog and they see things different than us, to him that child was almost like a toy or something he plays with as prey!!! I just wish I could call her and find out how she is and make sure she is okay. I know she is fine and the mother is taking her to see her doctor tomorrow but I feel so horrible for her!!! :(

ah what a drag, so sorry that happened, terrible and not your fault or Lars at all.

but yeah dogs are such emotional little creatures too, you almost can't blame him. I doubt he meant to hurt her, it was just what a dog like him would do.

on the flip side, at least you know Lars has your back in a bad situation no doubt. sorry it had to be such a bad scene, I'd be freaking out.

JD 04-19-2009 05:46 PM

god damn danza... you're a real pecker head ya know that. Shoot my dog and you'd be next. This isn't the wild west... learn to handle things like an adult.

Furious_Male 04-19-2009 05:48 PM

A very unfortunate incident. It sounds like both sides probably learned a lesson. I hope everything works out ok.

I wouldn't go the route of Danza training wise though. Negative reinforcement training or trying to break a dog into submission is a bad idea in my opinion. Who wants a maladjusted animal that is fearful and nervous? A dog like that can be even more dangerous.

baddog 04-19-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JD (Post 15761315)
god damn danza... you're a real pecker head ya know that. Shoot my dog and you'd be next. This isn't the wild west... learn to handle things like an adult.

He is all talk. He has proven that time and time again.

DirtyDanza 04-19-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15761378)
He is all talk. He has proven that time and time again.

blah blah blah... the old man speaks.... I am far from all talk.... if my dog bit you id be the first to take my dog out... no matter what you did to my dog....

DirtyDanza 04-19-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JD (Post 15761315)
god damn danza... you're a real pecker head ya know that. Shoot my dog and you'd be next. This isn't the wild west... learn to handle things like an adult.

if you had your dog under control then it would not come to that now would it...

baddog 04-19-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15761396)
blah blah blah... the old man speaks.... I am far from all talk.... if my dog bit you id be the first to take my dog out... no matter what you did to my dog....

So why didn't you show up when I was in Vegas? I was disappointed.

DirtyDanza 04-19-2009 06:27 PM

I don't wan an assault of the elderly charge on me nor do I want be arrested....

WarChild 04-19-2009 06:27 PM

One of the nice things about Canada is we don't have idiots like Danza walking around with guns.

WarChild 04-19-2009 06:28 PM

Wow you mean after all that tough talk Danza didn't show? Who'd ever have guessed that outcome?!?

cykoe6 04-19-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin (Post 15761099)
Punish him for protecting himself and her?

Agreed. The dog reacted as it is supposed to. People should watch their fucking kids.

DirtyDanza 04-19-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15761419)
Wow you mean after all that tough talk Danza didn't show? Who'd ever have guessed that outcome?!?

tough talk and being smart are 2 different things... ill back up anything I said to baddog but I will not go to jail for him.. and once I hurt him.. thats right were id be going.... if he wants to see me in action he knows ill be at the show in june if he feels froggy he can leap towards me and ill show him some pain... then I won't go to jail for defending myself

cykoe6 04-19-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15761102)
good thing your dog did not bite my kid it would have been a dead dog on the spot... I have a pit bull and a chow and you can litterally jump on both dogs and they would not bite.. I can take both dogs off the leash any where.. If my dogs so much as growl at me or any one they would be dead dogs... That's bad ownership to let your dog bite anyone and yes it's owners fault.. I've bred dogs (rotties) and you could jump on them as well... I use what's called beat the sense into the way... A dog who does not fear a human has a shitty owner...

Christ you are a fucking idiot. :321GFY

MediaGuy 04-19-2009 06:36 PM

Did AdultFiendFinder issue a statement?

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WarChild 04-19-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15761427)
tough talk and being smart are 2 different things... ill back up anything I said to baddog but I will not go to jail for him.. and once I hurt him.. thats right were id be going.... if he wants to see me in action he knows ill be at the show in june if he feels froggy he can leap towards me and ill show him some pain... then I won't go to jail for defending myself

Why is he going to jump at you? You were the one that was going to beat him up, remember? Oh well it's pretty much par for the course for you. Between the lies and the threats and the boasting I don't know how you keep one story straight from another. You should seriously get some help.

You're pretty much the village idiot here on GFY and considering the competition for that job that's really saying something.

NinjaSteve 04-19-2009 06:43 PM

Sounds like a rough experience for everybody. Good luck with things.

DirtyDanza 04-19-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15761436)
Why is he going to jump at you? You were the one that was going to beat him up, remember? Oh well it's pretty much par for the course for you. Between the lies and the threats and the boasting I don't know how you keep one story straight from another. You should seriously get some help.

You're pretty much the village idiot here on GFY and considering the competition for that job that's really saying something.

last I recall I never started anything... I remember saying to him after he was running his panzy mouth that I just MAY slap the shit outta him.. next thing I know he was all about challenging me then he's the one that posted a tombstone with my name on it.. I'd love to see him try to put me in a grave.... would be a funny as sight... shit id like to even see him try to talk bad to me during the show... ill show him that baddog is nothing but a toy poodle...

get your stories straight dood... sometimes I think you have selective reading....

gandalfuy 04-19-2009 08:23 PM

My dogs bite a young boy in the beach when he was little, like 2 years old.

We where afraid because Barrabas could do it again. Luckly us, it looks like he understood it was wrong, he didnt do it anymore till noew, hes 9 years old.

My house is by the beach and the dog sometimes still goes by himself to take a bath :)

So... you should watch over your dog and see if he does it again. Then, if he is dangerous, i dont know, if its not safe... lock him up 4 ever ?

baddog 04-19-2009 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15761513)
last I recall I never started anything... I remember saying to him after he was running his panzy mouth that I just MAY slap the shit outta him.. next thing I know he was all about challenging me then he's the one that posted a tombstone with my name on it.. I'd love to see him try to put me in a grave.... would be a funny as sight... shit id like to even see him try to talk bad to me during the show... ill show him that baddog is nothing but a toy poodle...

get your stories straight dood... sometimes I think you have selective reading....

I called you a pussy.
You said you were going to slap me the next time you saw me.
I told you how to find me.
I even left messages here when I went to a different club.
You no show.
You tough talker.

hershie 04-19-2009 09:03 PM

I have concluded that Danza has tried hard to create a brand image to get attention and he is making it up as he goes along to maintain the brand. If not and that is really the way you are, then GFY you prick :321GFY

DirtyDanza 04-19-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15761644)
I called you a pussy.
You said you were going to slap me the next time you saw me.
I told you how to find me.
I even left messages here when I went to a different club.
You no show.
You tough talker.

I will be at the show in june.. you can call me a pussy then sound fair... your man enough to talk it on the boards see if you will say it to me

baddog 04-19-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15761709)
I will be at the show in june.. you can call me a pussy then sound fair... your man enough to talk it on the boards see if you will say it to me

Make sure you introduce yourself. I could not pick you out of a lineup and I hate hearing how I intentionally avoided someone.

JaneB 04-19-2009 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Porn Producer (Post 15761253)
also, the little girl has received huge psychological trauma from your dog's attack, and she will be afraid of dogs for the rest of her life.

Perhaps that girls parents should have been watching her. Just as dogs need to be supervised so do kids. :2 cents:

JaneB 04-19-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn (Post 15760885)
I was at the park sitting down with both dogs and this little girl came by on her scooter with her brother and just her luck and my luck, she fell with her scooter, right in front of me onto the cooler I had and Lars got her. She had a puncture wound on her side and either his front teeth or his claws got her back. It happened so fast. I couldn't believe it. Thankfully the mother and the people were on a church outing and she was very cool about everything. They called Animal Control and got all my paper work on Lars, and the mother kept saying it's okay, it's happens, she startled him when she fell, it's an accident. The Lord works in mysterious ways, etc?I was crying thinking Lars was going to be taken from me, and upset hoping the little girl wasn't traumatized. They were all very nice, and the animal control guy said that out of the 80,000 bites from dogs that happen a year this is not a bad one, that Lars was provoked by the scooter and the little girl falling where she did. The friends of the mother of the little girl were very nice saying they just want to make sure Lars is clean and had all his shots. I told them he just had surgery and was tested for everything. He has his rabies shot that are good for 3 years. I just couldn't believe it. This guy, who was not with the group of people, came over to me and started yelling at me, saying who brings a dog like that to the park that would jump on a little girl. I told him, he didn't jump on her she fell right in front of me onto my blanket and he reacted. I couldn't believe that guy. I was crying already and then he comes over yelling. If the mother and the little girl were not right there I would have laid into that guy, but I was way to upset.

Lars is going to k-9 training now. That is a huge NO to me. I do not like dogs like that, even though he was startled it doesn't matter, he is smart enough to know the difference. So I am looking for K-9 training in Vegas. I know they have two great ones in LA but I haven't found one in Vegas yet. I think Cop K-9 training would be best for him because they train him in everything, from making them not react to little dogs and cats, to all commands.

Anyway, I wanted to share what happened because I am just a nervous wreck. I can't believe that happened. I was watching her come by and thinking Oh God Lars is going to bark now is good time to make him sit and not bark, and he did, he didn't bark or anything, but right when she went down and the cooler and scooter went over, he pounced!!! :(



I am sorry to read that Loryn. I know how much you love Lars. I have read some of the postings and in no way is Lars dangerous. He was enjoying a nice day and he was startled. He did what a lot of dogs would do when they are scared. I am sorry that he bit that little girl. Kids are not very good at watching their surroundings. You are not 100 percent responsible for what happened. It was an accident. If Lars wanted to he could have really done some damage to her. Also that guy that came up to yell at you is an asshole. Stupid fucks like him need to get bit.

k-9 training will be good for Lars. I am putting Lola in training too. She loves humans but she is aggressive toward other dogs. She bit a dog at the dog park. Lars may also like agility training as well. It is a great way to keep him in shape and let him burn off some energy.

I know thta you feel bad, but it really was an accident. The little girl is ok and so is Lars.

LadyMischief 04-20-2009 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Loryn (Post 15761077)
Yes I have already called a place and told them I need him trained NOW!!! I am so sick with stress over the whole thing. I feel so bad for the little girl, and the Mom was so cool, when the Animal Control guy asked her, she even told him in the report that she fell onto our area and the cooler, the dog was startled. So that made me feel better that she was calm and told the guy that it was an accident, and the girl's brother said the same thing too. He even pointed to the scooter and said she fell onto where the dog was and the dog was startled. The mother also said that the little girl has had all her shots, and she is on antibiotics for something that is not related to this in anyway and told me that everything will be fine. I hope so, I wish I could call her and find out how she is, I know she is going to have a big huge bruise!!!

First off YOU NEED TO RELAX!! You are projecting your stress, upset and tension to the dog, not to mention thinking in your mind that he's a bad dog and shouldn't have done that, and all that is goign to do is stress him out, confuse him, scare him, and he is more likely to follow instinct again. What your dog did was a natural, instinctive prey reaction, and be hella glad the people were calm. In fact the mother and the little girl were the ONLY ones acting correctly in this scenario, being calm. You can literally leave permanant mental scars on your dogs if you don't move past the incident and back into positive mind territory, and you will never allow your dog to move past the incident either! Remember, PACK LEADER mentality. A pack leader doesn't get stressed out, weep, cry or get upset, in fact, in a dog that is already unsettled from something like this, that is the WORST THInG YOU CAN DO fOR YOUR DOG! Get the mental image of him hurting the little girl OUT OF YOUR HEAD, and start thinking about how you WANT your dog to behave. The training in this instance MUST start at home! PACK LEADER, babe, calm, assertive, but most of all CALM!

If you can't calm yourself down, now is the time to send the dog somewhere else and take some time to colllect yourself. He needs to look up to you, and right now you are an unstable factor in his home pack. It's these kind of situations where a dog will step forward and try to take the dominant position. If you want even a SHRED of his respect left for you, buck up, get over it, and move into training with POSITIVE thoughts in your head not negative thoughts about what you don't want him, but a mental picture of how he SHOULD behave. SUPER important. The WORST thing you should do in a case like this is lose your cool.

LadyMischief 04-20-2009 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15761781)
Perhaps that girls parents should have been watching her. Just as dogs need to be supervised so do kids. :2 cents:

Absolutely they do agreed 100%. Any parent not controlling their children around a strange dog is as much at fault as the dog if something happens.

LadyMischief 04-20-2009 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15761814)
I am sorry to read that Loryn. I know how much you love Lars. I have read some of the postings and in no way is Lars dangerous. He was enjoying a nice day and he was startled. He did what a lot of dogs would do when they are scared. I am sorry that he bit that little girl. Kids are not very good at watching their surroundings. You are not 100 percent responsible for what happened. It was an accident. If Lars wanted to he could have really done some damage to her. Also that guy that came up to yell at you is an asshole. Stupid fucks like him need to get bit.

k-9 training will be good for Lars. I am putting Lola in training too. She loves humans but she is aggressive toward other dogs. She bit a dog at the dog park. Lars may also like agility training as well. It is a great way to keep him in shape and let him burn off some energy.

I know thta you feel bad, but it really was an accident. The little girl is ok and so is Lars.

Yep time to train your dog, but also time to take the leadership position in your pack. No dog that is properly "led" will act aggressive to other animals, and that is a huge indication of an issue that has been left undealt with.

pornguy 04-20-2009 04:58 AM

Hate to say this, but you better find a good attorney FAST.

pornguy 04-20-2009 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 15762443)
Yep time to train your dog, but also time to take the leadership position in your pack. No dog that is properly "led" will act aggressive to other animals, and that is a huge indication of an issue that has been left undealt with.

Not true.. Dogs are still some what wild and they WILL defend themselves if they feel they have no choice. Alpha male available or not.

LadyMischief 04-20-2009 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 15762452)
Not true.. Dogs are still some what wild and they WILL defend themselves if they feel they have no choice. Alpha male available or not.

Nothing to do with alpha male whatsoever, in fact most dog packs are maternally led. Dogs will NOT defend themselves if they don't percieve a threat. Loryn's dog is recovering from surgery, and she has a nervous personality, he's automatically going to jump to his defense and hers in a percieved threat (which is what this was). If a dog does not percieve a threat, they will not attack, period. Loryn's best bet is to work on her own insecurities first, they will filter down to the dog via her calm-assertive leadership, and he will not feel the need to protect her from all threats. Take it from someone who's been training dogs her whole life, including "aggressive" breeds such as Rottweilers, Pit Bulls, and Timberwolf-crosses.

Loryn 04-20-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 15762458)
Nothing to do with alpha male whatsoever, in fact most dog packs are maternally led. Dogs will NOT defend themselves if they don't percieve a threat. Loryn's dog is recovering from surgery, and she has a nervous personality, he's automatically going to jump to his defense and hers in a percieved threat (which is what this was). If a dog does not percieve a threat, they will not attack, period. Loryn's best bet is to work on her own insecurities first, they will filter down to the dog via her calm-assertive leadership, and he will not feel the need to protect her from all threats. Take it from someone who's been training dogs her whole life, including "aggressive" breeds such as Rottweilers, Pit Bulls, and Timberwolf-crosses.

You are totally right!!! The whole time I was at the park I always had in the back of my mind Lars reacting to someone, because of the way guys where coming up to him. I was truly amazed at how many guys would walk up to me and say beautiful dog and then go to put their face in his face. It was like they were trying to prove they were tough by showing they have no fear of my dog. I was on guard the whole time. When the little girl was coming by on her scooter, the first thought I had was him barking at her and I wanted to train him not to bark at people when they come by, then BAM she fell and fell right onto the cooler and blanket, it was like nightmare, and he bit her. I didn't sleep at all last night, I just kept thinking about the whole thing. Odd I come on here and the first post I read is yours and you saying what I was thinking about all night. It has opened my eyes big time. I kept thinking, how do I, let go of being nervous with him now that fear is even bigger. I need some serious help with me, he will be fine. If I don't change my head, Lars won't change at all. Oh I just want to cry!!! It's so frustrating now. He is such a good boy and he didn't do anything but react to what he saw as a threat. My nervousness throughout the day is what made him on edge. I started telling guys you can?t pet him because he is in training. I know the energy from those type of guys was not good either. Lars picks up on shit I don?t, but he never bite any of them. Maybe I stopped him before he could, because I watched his eyes, ears, and stance. When the little girl came by he didn?t like the scooter, but his body was sitting behind me, his head next to my shoulder. That is how close she fell to us, and the cooler and the scooter made him just react. God I do not wish this on anyone ever!!! :(

Loryn 04-20-2009 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15761781)
Perhaps that girls parents should have been watching her. Just as dogs need to be supervised so do kids. :2 cents:

The little girl?s older brother, who was about 10 or 11, was watching her. He was walking behind her as she was riding the scooter. He started crying hysterically when he saw the wound on her side, which I then was trying to calm him because he was making her more upset. The little girl kinda stopped crying when I calmed him but then he really started freaking out again because his little sister was hurt. I didn't blame him at all. He was a baby himself. I felt so bad for him too. I put Lars in the truck so I could comfort them because I knew with animal control coming and my being so upset it would have just made him even more upset. When they found Mom she was amazing. She grabbed the little girl and said look at me look at me, you are fine, and I swear I almost answered her and said yes I am fine. She was that good. I wanted to crawl on her lap and fall asleep too. The Mom just kept saying it was an accident the dog was startled and she is going to be okay. She said all she cared about was the dog had all her shots, and the little girl has had all of hers, and she was on antibiotics so she will be okay. It is kinda surreal now!!!

LadyMischief 04-20-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Loryn (Post 15763665)
You are totally right!!! The whole time I was at the park I always had in the back of my mind Lars reacting to someone, because of the way guys where coming up to him. I was truly amazed at how many guys would walk up to me and say beautiful dog and then go to put their face in his face. It was like they were trying to prove they were tough by showing they have no fear of my dog. I was on guard the whole time. When the little girl was coming by on her scooter, the first thought I had was him barking at her and I wanted to train him not to bark at people when they come by, then BAM she fell and fell right onto the cooler and blanket, it was like nightmare, and he bit her. I didn't sleep at all last night, I just kept thinking about the whole thing. Odd I come on here and the first post I read is yours and you saying what I was thinking about all night. It has opened my eyes big time. I kept thinking, how do I, let go of being nervous with him now that fear is even bigger. I need some serious help with me, he will be fine. If I don't change my head, Lars won't change at all. Oh I just want to cry!!! It's so frustrating now. He is such a good boy and he didn't do anything but react to what he saw as a threat. My nervousness throughout the day is what made him on edge. I started telling guys you can?t pet him because he is in training. I know the energy from those type of guys was not good either. Lars picks up on shit I don?t, but he never bite any of them. Maybe I stopped him before he could, because I watched his eyes, ears, and stance. When the little girl came by he didn?t like the scooter, but his body was sitting behind me, his head next to my shoulder. That is how close she fell to us, and the cooler and the scooter made him just react. God I do not wish this on anyone ever!!! :(

Well babe you have the right idea. You have to change the vision in your head. In a sitauation like that, you have to picture the BESt possible scenario, Lars sitting beside you quiet and obedient like a good boy, and eventually that will be the reality. Dogs are very much animals that live in the moment, and the energy you give them will be what they take into these situations. if you are in a stressful situation (unfamiliar surrounding, loud noises, etc) it's super important to be stoic and mellow, that will give your dog the security it needs to deal with the situation. You can do it, it takes time and effort but I can tell you love him a LOT and you want that vision for yourself anyways. Keep it up, you do the right thinig to admit the issue and now you just have to make a plan to enact it. You two will be fine :) I would suggest also a "gentle leader' to take him on walks. Gives you COMPLETE control of his head, not to mention the ability to control his jaw at all times. It applies pressure at the back of the neck if they pull or you apply pressure, in the way another dog would in a teaching way.

http://www.mightypets.com/gentle-leader.asp

Go to classes with Lars, it may also help give you both the confidence to overcome things together. :)

RyuLion 04-20-2009 11:05 AM

you need my homie to train you and your dog..
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Dirty F 04-20-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15761102)
good thing your dog did not bite my kid it would have been a dead dog on the spot... I have a pit bull and a chow and you can litterally jump on both dogs and they would not bite.. I can take both dogs off the leash any where.. If my dogs so much as growl at me or any one they would be dead dogs... That's bad ownership to let your dog bite anyone and yes it's owners fault.. I've bred dogs (rotties) and you could jump on them as well... I use what's called beat the sense into the way... A dog who does not fear a human has a shitty owner...

You fucking inbreed moron.

Huggles 04-20-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15761129)
I'm not going to argue with you Danza. I actually think you're retarded and I see no point in trying to argue with you. I just wanted to point out that I actually really do feel sorry for your children. They're going to grow up as messed up and stupid as you are and it's a shame in this day and age.


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