The site looks great. Good work.

No wonder so many people say this industry is going to shit...

Everyone spends their time bitching about tube sites, then something like this thread happens and everyone congratulates them and sends them traffic. :disgust

congrats on the tube steak.

Don't worry, I am fully in the process of shitting all over this thread.

I love askjolene to death and have over the years, but Mike a 3hour video?

I think I have figured out what they have done:


1. They have licensed, shitty DVD movies for "full length" content on the main page to sucker the surfers in to watch a bunch of 40 second and 1-minute sponsor clips in a completely been-there-done-that format.

2. They are going to charge sponsors to advertise there


Nothing new or innovative, just the same thing you can find on almost any tube?


I apologize in advance to Ask Jolene, as I think now they have mostly licensed stuff, with a few possible oversights sprinkled in.

good luck!

Congrats on the launch!!

Did you click that link and see for yourself if it's that long ?

wtf did you guys just completely changed AJ? Was it doing that bad?

50 :)

Why would anyone surf the old AJ, compared to any of the tube sites out there that offered much more content that was easier to browse through?

welp, that's official

the fucking tubes are taking fucking over

I don' t know why do they still come to FreeOnes?

What I mean is that right now it is just another tube site imo while they used to have a different concept. But hey if it works out for them then good!

PS Mike can you drop me a line in my email? Got a question for you!

Wow, I think you guys really missed the boat here.

How is this innovative, at all?

I expected more. Slap an alexa rank of 2 million on this site, call it something else, and voila.. It just blends in.

Am I missing something?

the page does not lay out very well in firefox on mac fyi. there is a lot of space between the border of the videos column and the right side banners. good luck with your transition.

some on windows machine FF

very nice man!
Hitting you up..

There is still market for pics.

More videos for me to watch.

Uhh...


Freeones has profile pages, pornstar trackers, a huge forum, and so many other things you can't find anywhere else.... yet.



AskJolene is now just another page in an ocean of porn pages.



http://alexa.com/siteinfo/thehun.net...m+freeones.com

No, Ask Jolene has gone to complete shit and offers nothing new.



Many of the big tubes are starting to bore surfers, IMO. ( Some continue to grow for reasons now obvious to me )

i still dont get it ... askjolene was original search engine with people who came back every day, to get what they found there for years. now, you lost most of those people cause they see yet another tube site ... and i dont think it will be easy to get new visitors to legal tube site ... hm ...

Congrats on the launch

Mike congrats man, looks very nice and a smart business move !

Looks simple enough... I recommend changing the search submit button from ASK to Search.. I thought I was searching ask before I hit submit. Then push the search more.


And ignore the haters.. They still think Tubes make no money other than on dating.

agreed thedoc, without dating sponsors, adult tube sites wouldnt be able to pay hosting bills

the above two posts are a little confusing..... you say "agreed" to TheDoc, and then seem to completely disagree with him in the same sentence?


and TheDoc, why do you label people as "haters" when they seem to just be questioning strategies? I didn't see any blatant hate at all in this thread ( although the "congrats on a great move" posts are a little lacking on the depth scales I think :1orglaugh )

Uhhh.. what happened to your big takedown of Bangbros you posted a couple of days ago? You made some noise, their rep said icq me and now you are quiet about it. What is the story? Did they say we will up your PPS just shut your mouth?

You can shit all over as many threads as you want. The problem is not the tubes. It is the sponsors that support them. If everybody collectively said we are going to drop Bangbros and Nubiles and AFF and Fling and AWE and all others that advertise on tube sites, that would have an impact and hurt the sponsors' bottom line. But, nobody will do it.

removing the current sponsors will lead to new sponsors rotating in. the biggest problem is the DMCA-- and those who exploit it for the world's biggest loophole.

Nah the big problem is not the sponsors, or the dmca's or legalities of the videos but the fact that they are giving away 15+ minute videos for free... That's not helping conversions.

this thread makes me absolutely sick - people, and it's always the same industry clingons who never invested a dime of money in anything congratulating a fucking piece of shit thief.

:321GFY

Tell us how you really feel.

Just because you phrase the hate into a question, doesn't change it from an attack. And was for sure some clear, bashing going on.

The congrats always have less to offer than the bitches.

I look at them like this.. they took a drop, now they are steady.. I'm sure they have been building and building with no luck.. You have a search engine - why not change it into a tube?


The biggest problem is programs don't protect the property they own. And they don't like the way the law is written, but absolutely do nothing, ever, not even once, to try and get it changed - other than bitch. And finally, the fact that Webmasters try to think for surfers and have no fucking clue what they are thinking when they visit a tube.... or why they do.

Why does the movie length hurt conversions?


I try not to judge a tube or search engine at that, without proof. I know first hand tubes buy content and I know people like me and 100's of others, lic them content.

Again, I have no idea if it is or isn't pirated - just saying I try not to make that call without proof first.

TubeSite.com gives away full length movies, legal licensed movies, 1,500 at 3 hours and 45 minutes each... FREE

PaySite.com gives a full members area with 300 exclusive videos for $39.95/mo.

Who do you think Mr. Credit Card Holder is gonna use?

Selling traffic is not a long term profit... Once so many users find out that they can get this content free, they will never pay again... and with no legal reason to remove the videos, then slowly over time, less and less people are gonna buy that traffic because it's worthless unless you're giving your content away... and not only does it kill the pay sites, but also free sites promoting pay sites.

It's like if you run a Starbucks' coffee shop, and Tube Java moves in next door.


They start giving away coffee for free while surviving off of banana bread and overpriced cinnamon sticks.


I do believe there are laws in place to prevent people from doing this?

Honestly don't like the new layout but hey if it works then good luck..

So a Webmaster with an opionion thinks the surfer knows the difference so much so, that he can't be sold? Your theory is flawed before I even start.

Mr. CC holder is going to use what he can afford or has the ability to use. A better question would be, what are YOU doing to market to them?

Ok.. So these sites that magically stop making sales, some how can also pay for bandwidth, how do they buy content? Then dating and cams don't try up? If they did, how would they stay open if nobody is buying anything? Logic man..

If Tubes do what TGP's/MGP's/Linksites, etc did, they will die, just like they did when the next big thing steps up. But if they continue to monetize, continue to expand, grow, which some are.. they aren't going to die - you are.

A content owner can open several duplicate paysites, sell content on plugins to many other paysites, sell in stores, sell in hotels, sell on cable tv, sell on vod/ppv sites, sell to dvd download sites, sell to brokers, sell to other 50 things you can do to make money on 1 scene..

And magically, the paysite... grows on type-in sales.

Yet.... almost all of our entire Industry thinks fucking Tubes are going to saturate you.. take a way sales, or something magical.

Every program doing ... lets say 100 sales a day.. Shut up and get to work. Piracy isn't hurting you. You can bitch when you hit 2000 and drop to 1000... cause programs are still doing that, and if you aren't.. IT CAN'T BE TUBES.


But it could be the eco at this point...and visa for canceling hundreds of millions of our members several times a year. That can't help..

Logic 101 over..

Forgot about the long term traffic thing... Google would be interested in that knowledge though.

Why would that be illegal?

I give away stuff at booths (shows that people buy stuff at, not our Industry) to attract people in to buy my products. I give away newsletters, free information, books, kits, all types of free stuff, like t-shirts, hats, and so on to keep the attention. Even cash contests, free tv's, and my own products.

We make double giving away free stuff vs. when we don't..... but that's baby logic.

Did the reward point systems of some programs ever attract you? Well, if it didn't, it without question attracted many many Webmasters.


I'm so tired of hearing this give away free shit doesn't work theory. HELLO GOOGLE - YOUR ENTIRE BUSINESS MODEL IS WRONG! You people here are so geared into business mind of sell sell sell, buy buy buy, that you can't see that 1000's of things around you are free.

Like the people drinking coffee at starbucks as they jump on the Internet for free..