Except that there are a lot less people drinking coffee at Starbucks these days because of companies like McDonalds giving away premium coffee practically for free.

Just to let you know, I don't think tube sites are killing our industry, that would be hypocritical of me, I have been for 2 months, building one myself. But what I do think is killing this industry is people giving 3 hour long videos to surfers FOR FREE!

I could give a fuck less if it's licensed, why do they gotta license full 3 hour video content and throw it up for free? Simple... They just want to sell traffic, and that's the case here... AskJolene.com is just in it to sell traffic.

What am I doing to combat this? I'm gonna be putting full length videos on my tube also.. But you see the difference with me is, my system is setup to show that the video is 35+ minutes long, but when they go to view it, they only get say, 2-3 minutes of it... But wait... If they are logged in as a free user, they get a slightly longer version, BUT! If they login as a premium user (which will be a low monthly fee), they will get the full length video...

That is what I'm doing, now why can't people like Mike Dutch do that with AskJolene.com? Because they only care to sell traffic.

With that being said, I'm off to bed. Night Doc.

It's a nice looking site, but banner spots on a tube site are almost worthless if you are selling subscription porn.

everyone can screw the membership model and just sell traffic to each other in a weird virtual economy where porn websites sell uniques like linden dollars.

In my weird virtual world I sell sandwiches instead of porn. I AM THE SANDWICH KING!!! In exchange for my spectacular sandwiches, I am paid in genuine chicken skin garb. Chicken skin hats, boots, slimy chicken skin wallets... it's heaven!

But thats perfect, for you or me, or maybe them.

It shouldn't all the be same, that's what happened to TGP's.. Tubes are starting that way, naturally - but like your tube, they will change. And if they want to stay around, they will change even more.

The more people ignore the changes around them, the harder it will be to catch up. If they don't start learning now, it will be to late when the next change blows us all by again.

Congratulations on the launch! MojoHost is very proud to be hosting this tube site filled with all licensed content. The market will sort out the winners and losers in our space. I say kudos for not utilizing any unlicensed video.

Cheers,

Brad

Anybody else notice how this loser pops up in all the tube threads and tries to suck the tube owners dicks?

Must be desperate for business....

No, not really.. but I did notice he at least added something to the topic..

LOL. In these tough times he's prolly the fastest growing host there is.
Congrats on the launch Mike. Shannon said hi, I put her to be early. lol

Does Mojo Host really have a command centre like in your sig?!

Thanks!

Very true.

Yes, this is in fact the command center that manages the facility we are in and oversees our space. Come for a tour at August's Internext and I'll show you our digs and what the differences are between being in a Tier 4 data center like the one we are in versus the competition.

Cheers,

Brad

Looking good.

No shit sherlock, thats what I am saying :2 cents:

Wow thats one hell of a lot of movies, Best of luck with the new site

But can it run Crysis?!

Dig deeper, Watson.

Best of luck with the new format.

now thats a point ... why did you not started jolenetube instead of killing the old site? you had to kill all your se possitions or not? i still dont understand ... i used your site few years back as a surfer ... so i am asking ... jolene :)

AskJolene kicks ass :)

looks good

I think the new format could be a mistake for this reason. AskJolene is at the top of its class for searching for porn. That's what their surfers are there for. Now that it's switched to being a tube, it's competing against much much more established tube sites that provide all full-length videos and bigger communities. I think it would be much better if the new tube site was secondary to the search engine, so as not to alienate loyal surfers.

First of all I would like to thanks all who helped us realizing this legal tube site and thank the people who congratulated us.

For those who have questions our business ethnics, I would like to clarify some of the statements that were made.

AskJolene is specialized in spidering, classifying and making large amounts of content easy accessible. We were the first that were able to list over 2.000.000 galleries on one site in a search interface with real time daily updates. We have used our technical advantages to automatically index basically every sponsor out there to keep AskJolene the most updated in the market as it still is today.

As far as the movie content, all our tube clips are legal as far as we know. We get our movie content from combining galleries clips from sponsors, clips sponsors provided us and bought content from licensed brokers.

Before adding the tube tab we have tested it for months and we have found the solution that works best for our site. As many will agree we needed to adjust to the market so we tested different tube formats before making a final decision. The outcome was to add a full tube section with over 500.000 clips, as we have now.

AskJolene is famous for it's gallery search, cam search and story search and still is. We haven't changed anything in these sections and still offer them with great success as before.

We manage to keep AskJolene compatible for the pornsurfers, profitable for our advertiser and competitive in the market without losing our business ethnics out of sight.

Congratulations Mike, it looks awesome!

Congrats on the launch! Work a little more on the design and the site is perfect for todays time. Im a bit disillusioned how todays designers (and site owners of course) cant bear in mind that people use widescreen monitors. Its a lame error. Besides the site is innovative, would call it tube 2.0

Congrats on the Re-launch of AskJolene buddy. Looks really good !!

Looking good Mike, i know you've been busy with this for quite some time.

type site:askjolene.com in google. do those pages still exist?

Very true.

It's also this industries refusal to step up the product to a new level so they offer a better option then surfing a Tube site full of crap content. Most sponsors and affiliates are selling a product that has changed little in 8 years. Yes some sites are bigger and some have HD but it's obvious if Tubes are taking our paying surfers we are not good enough as a whole.

Tubes have ad space and upsells to support their sites.
Paysites have $1.00 (mostly) per member a day to support their sites.

So with an average of $1 a day per member why can't sponsors offer a better product?

Because many will now rush to Mike and buy traffic to replace traffic they lost. When we should be spending more on the product, offering more flexible and cheaper joins, more content and pulling the rug from under the Tube sites. They only exist because buying surfers are moving over to them.

I see lawsuits in your future

That's not the solution. Never was and never will be. The "stolen" content line is a dead end. Even if you had a water tight DMCA that applied all over the world Tubes would still be giving away content to earn money for the Tube owners with legal content.

This post explians it better.

Except there are no laws that stop it.

If I decide to turn my paysites into a Tube and live off the earnings from Adverts and upsells that is perfectly legal.

But if you run a Starbucks coffee shop and one opens next to you giving away coffer you have options.

Give away for free the product they sell. Yes we could all be giving surfers free live web cam shows and dating sites. OK not sure how to do Dating sites and maybe that needs working on. Short term results would we would lose some of our sales to Dating and Web cam sites. Long term results would be we save the paysite model by taking away the Tubes revenue source.

Tube sites prove we've been selling the product that suits us and not customers (if those customers are choosing Tubes over paysites). So we need to look at what is so appealing about Tubes and adapt to their models. Tons of content, big mix, drop in and out when you like. So over all better choices for the surfers.

Price. Not everyone wants to spend $30 for a few days a month. We need to realise the $30 @ 30 day model is wrong for a lot of out customers.

Stop forcing them to buy a months supply of a limited range of coffees, when all they want is coffee today and give away for free banana bread and cinnamon sticks.

great, more free porn on net :crap

You still never mentioned why you feel the need to have full 3 hour and 45+ minute long videos for surfers to watch for free...

Here we go again :2 cents:

tube thread jack in 3...2....1......

You forget to mention they will serve shitty coffee. All the Starbucks customers will go there once, maybe twice and then happily go back to Starbucks to PAY for GOOD coffee. The free coffee place will attract other people. People who never went to Starbucks in the first place. People who made coffee at home because they don't have money to spend on Starbucks coffee. They don't mind that the coffee tastes bad because it's free anyway.

The content is legal..


Surfers make the choice correct?

Then why has this been tested, 1000's and 1000's of times, and that price point range has proven to convert the best, retain the best, and produce the lowest complaints. It's because this is what the customers want and continue to want.

Many sites offer per clip, scene, per minute, download only, and so on. Not a single billing method/style improves purchases/income.. It's all been tested.



Your problem is you are trying to think for millions of surfers, and that is totally illogical.



Not looking back up to be clear.. but I think they said they are still testing things. Anyway, it's still your opionion that a 4 hour movie is bad for surfers. It's not a one-way door..


I had GREAT free coffee at the SunFlower Market (my fav place to get free coffee) and while buying furniture, I had coffee and cookies. And while getting my haircut, I got a free mixed drink. And the car dealership, had starbucks coffee for free.. HOLY CRAP, while I jumped online for free, to compare prices on a free website. That was one hellish expensive day of free shit.

congrats looks great ;- )

good stuff

Ahh... but do they drink coffee for the taste, or the caffeine?


Porn is different, it's whatever gets the surfer off. If tubes can provide a good 30 minute movie to spank it to for free, why sign up?

For some reason everybody things that surfers needs full lenght movies to jerk off... well let me be the first to burst that bubble!!!!!!!! Stick a 2 minute clip on repeat and they'll get off!!!

I was aswell a tube hater alot. But then just accepted it. It evolved. It will clear its flaws shortly. When applied to adult, it was a place to hunt amateur videos, remember. It became an ad tool. Shortly every sponsor will give his best to create the most converting adclips for these tubes, clips that do what they have to do: heat up the visitor enough to buy. Yes, a tube site is a simple directory, the current example shows it very well. True, it means the end of the odd 'bought up a pack of lame content for cheap and living off it for years' paysites and only the real market contestants will earn. As mentioned the customers make the choice and everything bends on their interest.

Its this simple, and it was present all the time, nothing has changed: ones are able to pay for luxuries and others dont. We all have needs, and even though the caffeine thing was almost a kudo for you, still, some of us are able to fulfill these needs on a higher level while others dont, or on a very low satisfaction level. Apply this to anything. Addictive, non addictive, doesnt matter. The 'tube' tool will 'outvolve' its flaws, its nothing more than a directory, just in 2009.