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Mutt 04-29-2009 08:05 AM

after sortie asked about video i cut out some chunks with no nudity and uploaded to YouTube. This video is dark, she's tanned but not this dark.


lusciousness 04-29-2009 08:31 AM

I am definitely in!!! God she's so hot :thumbsup

tranza 04-29-2009 08:54 AM

Man, this girl is hotter than hell!

RadicalSights 04-29-2009 09:40 AM

Waste of time....

Mutt 04-29-2009 10:00 AM

that's your opinion. I'm not asking designers to do a complete tour. that would be shitty and i'd expect very few if any entries.

I did this same design contest for a previous solo girl site - and quite a few of the designers who entered I know got new business from the exposure they got in the contest, Harvey from FDsign and Pixellusion who won the contest I know did. And the design concept people come up with won't go to waste, they can use them for another site/customer if the design is good.

nation-x 04-29-2009 10:01 AM

my lord...

hyperdrive 04-29-2009 11:36 AM

im in! :) i sent an email early today, still waiting for the reply..

PSD CSS XHTML 04-29-2009 12:19 PM

email sent from psd.css at gmail. Thanks Mutt:thumbsup

Deej 04-29-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 15800325)
that's your opinion. I'm not asking designers to do a complete tour. that would be shitty and i'd expect very few if any entries.

I did this same design contest for a previous solo girl site - and quite a few of the designers who entered I know got new business from the exposure they got in the contest, Harvey from FDsign and Pixellusion who won the contest I know did. And the design concept people come up with won't go to waste, they can use them for another site/customer if the design is good.

Harvey is good!!!!

I havent seen him for some time... Anyone else?

Mutt 04-29-2009 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 15800911)
Harvey is good!!!!

I havent seen him for some time... Anyone else?

me neither - i hope he's well. i just sent him a message.

Mutt 04-29-2009 01:52 PM

Harvey is alive - an employee of his emailed me about the contest.

Mutt 04-29-2009 04:10 PM

*bump* for any more designers who haven't seen it

badcore 04-29-2009 04:30 PM

i'd like to try too :)

_Richard_ 04-29-2009 04:57 PM

smoking hot model.. jesus

RadicalSights 04-30-2009 02:39 AM

Quote:

that's your opinion.
The thing what I don't get is why you or anyone would want to spend $2,000 on a 3 page paysite tour when you don't even have to.

I recently did this 3 page tour + join page + basic members for $900. And I know a few other guys who do around the same price.

http://www.radicalsights.com/clients/Mrr/index.html

It's like throwing $1,100 right out the window.

raven1083 04-30-2009 02:44 AM

I like those aroused nipples! Very yummy

SayWhut 04-30-2009 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 15803511)
The thing what I don't get is why you or anyone would want to spend $2,000 on a 3 page paysite tour when you don't even have to.

I recently did this 3 page tour + join page + basic members for $900. And I know a few other guys who do around the same price.

http://www.radicalsights.com/clients/Mrr/index.html

It's like throwing $1,100 right out the window.

Looks like your client got ripped off.


This is a good idea as Mutt gets to see a whole range of designs from various designers who have different styles etc and gets to pick at his choice. Typically, if he hired one designer, he would only have to pick from just one design, maybe two if he is lucky.

RadicalSights 04-30-2009 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SayWhut (Post 15803535)
Looks like your client got ripped off.


Hm well considering a design of the same quality and page count would cost upwards of $2,000 at places like BDS etc. -- I don't think so.

But your ignorance is much appreciated. :thumbsup

Boobs 04-30-2009 06:04 AM

She is hot man

Mutt 04-30-2009 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SayWhut (Post 15803535)
Typically, if he hired one designer, he would only have to pick from just one design, maybe two if he is lucky.

bingo. when you hire a designer, you look at their portfolio to see what they are capable of and what their range of styles are - if you really like something in their portfolio and want something similar, then it's easy, you tell the designer you want something similar, you may suggest colors,fonts, maybe a theme and they go off and do it. they come back, and you get a revision or two. Try at that point telling a designer, 'ya know, i'm not thrilled with the way this turned out, let's try another concept' - most designers will not be happy. Some won't do an entirely new concept.

I don't want that, I don't want something that looks like something else in their portfolio, I am hiring them for their creativity, after an ICQ conversation, they should go and work out some very rough concepts.

Contest like this should produce a variety of styles/themes - maybe somebody will do a minimalistic Web 2.0 type idea, maybe somebody else will do a pink frilly girly theme, maybe somebody else does something grunge style, or glamour style, or teeny bopperish -
I definitely have no pre-conceived ideas of what style will win the contest. And Destiny herself is going to have a large say in which design she wants.

anyway, people who put down GFY all the time are idiots, a lot of designers, some i've never seen before, have downloaded the zip file and will work out a design hopefully. I'll get a great design out of this, one or two designers will get a well paid gig out of it, and the other designers will get some more exposure for their businesses. win/win/win.

Serial Pervert 04-30-2009 07:01 AM

great pics!

RadicalSights 04-30-2009 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 15803856)
bingo. when you hire a designer, you look at their portfolio to see what they are capable of and what their range of styles are

A good graphic designer can do almost any kind of style.

And if you go to a studio for example that employs multiple designers, you get different type of styles.

It's like most people here seem too afraid to open their mouths and tell their opinions for fear of the random lame GFY insult they'll provoke.
:1orglaugh

You are overspending for what you want. But it's your money in the end so spend it as you see fit. Good lux. :thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 04-30-2009 08:49 AM

She makes me feel like I'm not man enough for her...

The Truth Hurts 04-30-2009 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 15803943)
It's like most people here seem too afraid to open their mouths and tell their opinions for fear of the random lame GFY insult they'll provoke.
:1orglaugh

You are overspending for what you want. But it's your money in the end so spend it as you see fit. Good lux. :thumbsup

Since you're so high on opinions..

your designs are average, and your coding is lame as hell.
i mean really... are you having a competition to see how many instances of useless spacer gifs you can jam into one table layout?

step it up a notch and maybe you can jack your prices a bit instead of ragging on what other people charge or are willing to pay.

brassmonkey 04-30-2009 09:39 AM

booty bounce she needs some lessons

MetaMan 04-30-2009 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 15803511)
The thing what I don't get is why you or anyone would want to spend $2,000 on a 3 page paysite tour when you don't even have to.

I recently did this 3 page tour + join page + basic members for $900. And I know a few other guys who do around the same price.

http://www.radicalsights.com/clients/Mrr/index.html

It's like throwing $1,100 right out the window.

you only got $900 because it is only worth $900.

i love how you amateur designers all try and make your shit sound high and mighty then question guys who have been in the industry for years.

what do you think these guys like Mutt who have been around for years care more about? saving $1100 or spending an extra $1100 and getting a real design.

when you are pushing a site to make thousands $1100 seems like a drop in the bucket now dont you think?

TheDA 04-30-2009 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15804525)

when you are pushing a site to make thousands $1100 seems like a drop in the bucket now dont you think?

Exactly. If this site is any where near as successful as his last solo site, and I am absolutely certain it will be, that money will be clawed back in the first couple of days very easily.

devine 04-30-2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 15803943)
A good graphic designer can do almost any kind of style.

And if you go to a studio for example that employs multiple designers, you get different type of styles.

It's like most people here seem too afraid to open their mouths and tell their opinions for fear of the random lame GFY insult they'll provoke.
:1orglaugh

You are overspending for what you want. But it's your money in the end so spend it as you see fit. Good lux. :thumbsup

well, I guess it's not only about 10, 20 or 50 design samples he'll be able to choose from at a price lower than top adult design companies like Dickmans or Adult Design. It's also about branding, about getting the name being known and such. It's called marketing, it's called being smart, it's called business.

Plus, if you're so good, just enter the contest and make $1100 over your regular fee, piece of cake :thumbsup

btw, I like your design from an aesthetical point of view. Granted, it's a blatant copy of Wyldesites, but it looks good anyway. However, I'd pay a little more attention to your coding, which is plain horrible:

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos...Mrr%2Fcam.html

and that not to mention the spelling mistakes, the weird unconnected layout, minor details like a thumb border over a webcam, unlinked buttons and so on

and since it seems you still design on tables, can't figure out why you're trying to use divs inside tables and living them open, orphaned and such :Oh crap

Maybe that's why you can't charge more than that, you have skills, but you really need to improve your game before playing major leagues. Just my :2 cents:, of course, not trying to put you down, just trying to help

PS: It's not smart to attack a possible client, what do you think you'd accomplish with this? That Mutt will regret his (smart) decisions to run out to you? That other clients will see you as the paradigm of wisdom and run out to you? Think twice before posting, another :2 cents: from an oldie

CaptainHowdy 04-30-2009 01:02 PM

I just had sex with her in my head ...

HorseShit 04-30-2009 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 15803943)
A good graphic designer can do almost any kind of style.

And if you go to a studio for example that employs multiple designers, you get different type of styles.

It's like most people here seem too afraid to open their mouths and tell their opinions for fear of the random lame GFY insult they'll provoke.
:1orglaugh

You are overspending for what you want. But it's your money in the end so spend it as you see fit. Good lux. :thumbsup

Your design isn't worth $900 more like $90

RadicalSights 04-30-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devine (Post 15805192)

btw, I like your design from an aesthetical point of view. Granted, it's a blatant copy of Wyldesites, but it looks good anyway. However, I'd pay a little more attention to your coding, which is plain horrible:

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos...Mrr%2Fcam.html


Thanks I'll take a closer look at the coding. It's a good page for checking coding for sure.

But since it seems that you like knitpicking about perfect coding and seem to hold wyldesites in high regard...

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos.../mkl/main.html

Result: 37 Errors

Guess he's not yet in big leagues either. :upsidedow

RadicalSights 04-30-2009 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15804525)
you only got $900 because it is only worth $900.

i love how you amateur designers all try and make your shit sound high and mighty then question guys who have been in the industry for years.

This place is beyond hilarious. Amateur designer? :1orglaugh

If I am an amateur designer than dickmandesigns is full of amateur designers.. Blue design studios is full of amateur designers.. Webinc is full of amateur designers..

Because none of those places does any different quality paysite design work.

http://www.dickmansdesign.com/v4/portfolio/CaseyParker/
http://www.dickmansdesign.com/portif...ahvip/home.htm


good luck with the contest.

MetaMan 04-30-2009 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 15805395)
This place is beyond hilarious. Amateur designer? :1orglaugh

If I am an amateur designer than dickmandesigns is full of amateur designers.. Blue design studios is full of amateur designers.. Webinc is full of amateur designers..

Because none of those places does any different quality paysite design work.

http://www.dickmansdesign.com/v4/portfolio/CaseyParker/
http://www.dickmansdesign.com/portif...ahvip/home.htm


good luck with the contest.

yes you are amateur i dont care about the other places i dont see them coming in here and bitching like they know whatsup.

Jay-Rock 04-30-2009 01:46 PM

shes a winner for sure!

devine 04-30-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 15805357)
Thanks I'll take a closer look at the coding. It's a good page for checking coding for sure.

But since it seems that you like knitpicking about perfect coding and seem to hold wyldesites in high regard...

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos.../mkl/main.html

Result: 37 Errors

Guess he's not yet in big leagues either. :upsidedow

it's not me who's copying Wyldesites from A to Z :helpme

plus, if your measuring of quality is what other people do wrong instead of what they do well... I don't know, guess it's your problem, not mine.

As for Dickman's design, the Casey Parker design is like 100 times above your quality in strict design terms (although in marketing terms is pretty weak and I bet it converts very bad). The MariahVip is simple, yet a different thing to everything else they have. See, you had to search hard for something simple and minimalistic (not badly done, just simple), while I took a look at your portfolio and all your designs are exactly the same, and to make it worse, a copy of another designer.

Let's see:
1) Look for a cool background
2) Add some text in Futura MD BT font
3) Add some text in another Futura family font
4) Add some glow effect. Add some pics
5) Let's not forget the glass buttons
6) Call it a tour (or even your own portfolio)

Listen, I can't design shit, I always have cool ideas yet I don't have the skills to make them go real, but I've designers that can do 4 tours like that (and way better) per week. Believe it or not, I'm trying to help you since I guess you're either too young, either too cocky, maybe both. You're not doing yourself any favor and every single thing you say makes you look worse, so why don't you simply stop embarrassing yourself and leave Mutt alone? He probably knows 1000 times better than you what he wants and how to achieve it, the design for his sites is 100 times above your skills, your only resource is to find the weak spots for other people and compare yourself to those weak spots. Can you see what I mean?

Anyway, just an advice from an older guy, just do what you want, I won't stop you :)

Mutt 04-30-2009 04:08 PM

The Casey Parker design is nice - it's a couple years old now and the 750 pixel width looks out of date these days. The MariahVIP one is average at best.

Mutt 04-30-2009 04:09 PM

whatever happened to Casey Parker - big hype around her for awhile and then nothing - she quit porn?

Zuzana Designs 04-30-2009 07:14 PM

Hey Mutt can you send me a zip to [email protected] please.. I may have to take a stab at this while I'm on vacaton this weekend ... Her look is amazing and needs a unique never been done tour to break the mold ... I have been thinking about it the last couple days ... Thanks

Mutt 04-30-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 15806411)
Hey Mutt can you send me a zip to [email protected] please.. I may have to take a stab at this while I'm on vacaton this weekend ... Her look is amazing and needs a unique never been done tour to break the mold ... I have been thinking about it the last couple days ... Thanks

email sent :)

thanks to all for all the interest in the contest too

nicanor14 04-30-2009 08:11 PM

here's a bump for a great guy mutt! :thumbsup

Zuzana Designs 04-30-2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 15806441)
email sent :)

thanks to all for all the interest in the contest too

Got it thanks ..

blowme_DL 05-01-2009 05:43 AM

Mutt please send us some images :) we are interested to join the contest [email protected]

thanks

Outlinezero_yourmofoLOLO 05-01-2009 06:18 AM

Eyo Mutt, could ya please send images my way as well? :) [email protected] thanks

Mutt 05-01-2009 07:00 AM

e-mail sent :)

Chit Chat 05-01-2009 08:39 AM

Bump for this worthy cause....

Mutt 05-01-2009 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chit Chat (Post 15807979)
Bump for this worthy cause....

thanks for the bump - here's one for Friday - 2 weeks from today is deadline day.

HorseShit 05-01-2009 10:52 AM

can't wait to see these

PSD CSS XHTML 05-01-2009 02:15 PM

What's her full name going to be? I am assuming you don't have destiny.com :winkwink:

BruceM 05-01-2009 02:33 PM

She's very hot, good luck with the contest Mutt.

Supz 05-01-2009 02:38 PM

She is very fucking hot.


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