right smart arse. What does it mean then , educate us...lol

You'd be surprised possibly to find that the guys who portray those characters on film are actually the EXACT opposite in real life. And you may also be surprised to find out that the girls getting throat fucked and called whores being degraded to the point of tears actually enjoy that sexually. Not in "real life", but sexually.
What I've often seen is that most men who hate women aren't that adventurous in bed or able to get women to loosen up and be uninhibited enough to have that kind of crazy kinky sex.
But there really is a market for the softer stuff you've spoke of. It's not as lucrative as hardcore, but it's still there. Maybe you should make a go at it.

seriously, huggles.
The shit on cinemax is always a rerun.. Go find ya some educated chicks and do a porn with a plot :)

Same thing when people see a woman in a burqa, how do we know they don't enjoy being uneducated property?


I think the point that's actually being made is that when people witness other people doing acts that 99.9% of people would consider degrading, i.e. someone insulting, slapping, spitting on, pissing in the mouth of, ass fucking, and cumming all over them, there is a high likelyhood that the average mind will find the woman taking that humiliation is a whore devoid of self respect. This in turn, probably fosters an attitude of disrespect of the models involved. Would I ever drink a smoothie made in my own ass? Fuck no, that is the sickest fucking thing I can think of. I guess I find some respect in people who will not do just anything for money.

you ever watch some of the facial abuse vids? that stuff is harsh. you got first time amateurs puking on cocks and crying. seems very real and not enjoyable at all for the girls. personally i think you want to belive in this utopia porn world that doesn't really exist.

Why do you do phone sex rather than 20 person gang bangs?


and why do you call your clients losers?

Of course, I even promote it! I actually have to credit it for being probably -the- porn that made me re-think my role in this business. I'd rather promote porn that showcases more emotion and reality in adult. This whole fake gonzo porn is just so mechanical these days. It's hard to get excited when it's the same old so-called reality site plots rehashed over and over again with the exact same models making an "O" face at the site of an above average dick.

I can see why average people will think porn is a bad business to be in, if their first experience in seeing a porn is a facial abuse episode. The average person would be shocked.

Although the facial abuse stuff doesn't try and fake it. It's just hardcore gonzo stuff. It's not like any of the so-called reality sites that seem to make the average woman a slut that will be picked up off the street to fuck for money. People actually start to believe all women are like that. I should know, I've worked with people like that!

Perhaps. And maybe Sylvester Stallone really killed all those people in the latest Rambo movie as well.

It's called acting. Those "first time amateurs" are girls that know exactly what they are doing and what they are going to do. Part of that whole gig is to look "distressed" and to make sure you gag and throw up.
Do I understand that niche? No. Do I get turned on by it? No.

But for you to say that someone like me is living in some porn utopia world is ludicrous. I've got PLENTY of real world experience with hookers, strippers, feature dancers, and pornstars. And when I say "real world experience" I mean relationships...both emotional and friendship-wise. And from my personal experience I've always found the girls in the sex industry to be funny and smart. And kinky as hell too. :)

If you choose to be a mark and believe that what you see on film is "real" then you are the perfect fan. You are exactly who we are marketing to. But as a guy who is "behind the curtain" I can't help but kinda smirk at that.

Have you ever actually watched them? if not, look up hannah or stephie. if those are girls "acting" i'll buy a hat and eat it.

I like this guy. Why are people that have no buisness purposes allowed on this board.

No need to buy a hat. I have a super cool Rolling Stones baseball cap on right now that I can let you have to chow down on. :)
Look, I don't watch a whole lot of that stuff except to preview the movies in the hosted galleries. But I do know the girls who star in them and the guys who shoot that kind of thing. I'm telling you that you are marking out over what you're seeing on film. And until you actually SHOOT a scene yourself then you don't realize how much they are stopping and starting and talking between takes and taking high res photos.
I'm telling you, you're wrong about it. It's not the same thing as you grabbing a handycam and ramming your cock down a bitches throat catching them by surprise and hurting them.

It's not that way at all. It's more like setting up a shoot weeks in advance with full disclosure of what's gonna happen, including showing all the performers some past footage so they know exactly what they are doing.(though quite honestly, everybody pretty much knows everybody else so it's not a secret)
Then the girl shows up on set. She fills out her 2257 paperwork. Has her ID's photographed and then goes over the scene with the director/videographer. Then they turn on the pro lighting and film. Then they...stop. And take some high res photos. Maybe get a drink of water. Cut a few jokes. Then they start.

I can't believe I'm having to tell you how this works...but I guess if you've never done it yourself you wouldn't know. Just believe me, it's JUST A MOVIE. No actual whores were harmed during the filming of the movie. :1orglaugh

Robbie why are you arguing with these idiots who have no clue or respect for the people that make up the adult buisness. People that work extremely hard to make a living.

There are also tons of sites out there like fantasyteenageassault.com with simulated rape, and you don't actually believe that is real, do you? The girls in those videos also look like they are crying, but that is what they are paid to do.

By the same token fantasy/simulated rape is a huge fetish among women. I'll have to dig it up, but I remember an article that was being passed around from one of those women's magazines like Cosmo or one of those where they did a poll of the top 10 women's fantasies, and rape was right up at the top.

I dated this girl back in 2006 that was kind of an amazon, tall, had some muscle to her, and big fake tits, and every time we had sex it was like going 10 rounds with Mike Tyson. She loved to be choked and smacked and spit on, and she would give it as well as she took it. It's no utopia, I honestly believe every woman has the capacity to be turned on by this in her own way...

Hey i don't make porn. just websites. Trust me man, just watch one of those vids i mentioned sometime. These girls should be on the silver screen if they are faking it all.

I'm not arguing with them. I'm trying to educate them about how things really work in our business. You're probably right...I'm just wasting my time. But I thought it might not hurt to try and help them understand.

You are so wrong on what she shoots pal. She does not shoot with guys. :)

So a college education and still can't spell "Exclusive", "Continue", or "testimonials". I gave up after that many mistakes. :error

Robbie is in la-la land if he honestly believes this is acting, and not pure, raw emotion.

Seems a bit egotistical of him to call us both "marks" for, gasp, questioning the acting ability of first time amateur talent.

No, I'm not being egotistical. I just described how a shoot works for you. And you still are ignoring that. That means you've made up your mind already. I could take you on the set and show it to you "live" and you would still have the same thoughts. OK. It's a free country.

Believe what you want. Mark out if you will. In the meantime, the girls will continue to make great money and live a lifestyle that most people would be envious of. ~shrug~

Any chance you could pay me to have sex with Claudia Marie? She can choke, slap, and spit on me if she'd like. Oh, to be so traumatized...:winkwink:

lol We don't shoot that kind of stuff...you'd just have to be satisfied with sinking into her pink puckered asshole while you stretch out her monster boobs.

I was just thinking the same thing.

Porn Shooter is a surfer with a Nic who feels that he is someone when he posts on adult boards.:thumbsup

indeed hot!

Shy has a good head on her shoulders biz wise, no doubt.

I've been to shoots before. You're fucking kidding yourself if you think all of these girls are prepared for it. Girls can be very nervous even on vanilla shoots, let alone extremely rough face fucking and gagging shoots where the guys are "acting" when they choke, spit, insult, and belittle them.

I don't know of many people who would envy someone who gets paid to have sex with strangers. I mean, if someone is working with a husband or wife, yeah, that could work really well and you could probably live a pretty normal life. If you're working with strangers that would pretty much ruin any dating/relationships you may want to get into. Ron Jeremy, who is far, far, far, FAR more experienced than you, has spoken up on how difficult it is to have a relationship, and some of the other consequences to being in adult.