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WarChild 05-16-2009 05:27 PM

Personally I don't believe in helmet laws at all. I think those stupid enough to ride without helmets should aboslutely be allowed to remove themselves from the gene pool. More power to them!

lacuna 05-16-2009 06:11 PM

I won't ride without a full-face shield, if nothing else because of the flying bugs and crap. I live in New York, so we don't have that many bugs... but still, you hit a bumblebee at 80+ mph and you know it. I don't know how people ride down south... I'd hate to run into a swarm of palmettos or other giant mutant southern bugs. Yuck.

dyna mo 05-16-2009 07:54 PM

stats-
Helmet use among fatally injured motorcyclists is below 50 percent

Single vehicle motorcycle crashes account for about 45 percent of all motorcyclist fatalities.

Half of the fatalities are related to negotiating a curve prior to the crash



umm, learn how to ride.

bausch 05-16-2009 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 15859950)
Many years ago there was a user on GFY who posted photos of a guy who was missing more than half of the lower part of his face (missing his jaw, nose, cheek bones, etc). You literally just had a clear view of the back of his tonsils, and his eyes. The guy was alive, too. Just sitting in the ER.

Terrible sort of thing to have happen. I'm not entirely sure what the emergency room people would do with you at that point. They might just bid you farewell, for the most part. :(

What ended up happening to him? did he survive?

dyna mo 05-16-2009 08:00 PM

Almost one third of the fatally injured operators did not have a proper license

Deej 05-16-2009 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15859865)
Here you go, actual 3D Cat scan rendering of the structural damage to the face of a rider without a full helmet. Look at the front of the mandible (jaw) it's completey snapped in half.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/roentge...7601198404570/

I wonder how long it will take some ignorant bastard to jump in this thread an insist that in fact full face helmets are MORE dangerous because they break your neck? Before you do, think of what a wholey stupid argument that is and just don't post it.

Thats like people saying steel toed boots are worse because it can sever your toes...

amacontent 05-16-2009 09:03 PM

Sorry you believe my beliefs are stupid but I believe death is pre determined for everyone.
I live my life the way I want and if it kills me , so be it. Ill die happy.

As far as cars ... being surrounded in steel.. well maybe 40 years ago but cars are tin cans now.

Should bicycle riders wear full helmets. If no.. why not as they ride in the streets with the other nmanics and have less chance of getting out of the way of a car than a motorcylce. ]

When its your time, you cant run, you cant hide, its time. Thats just my humble opinion.

amacontent 05-16-2009 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 15860379)
That is sort of idiotic. In a car your already surrounded by steel, air bags, and such - not to mention you are secured via a seat belt.

The whole when its your time line is just to funny to ponder. Suppose you would have to already believe that there is a set time for you to die in the first place if you actually think what you said, which if you do then you should be able to do everything in the world you desire without any concern for safety already.

The idea that safety gear does not matter is well fucking stupid. I personally have prevented numerous severe injuries due to safety equipment and or gear. Most everyone here also would say the same.

Of course if you really believe in the whole "when its your time" crap. What happens when it is not your time but some other idiots time and they hit you. You end up all fucked up and the only thing the doctors can say is well if he was wearing his helmet he more than likely would not be drooling applesauce and wearing diapers right now.

Doesnt matter, what about the people in your well protected steel automobiles that are dismembered, crippled, burned alive because they cant get thier seatbelt off...

baddog 05-16-2009 09:06 PM

If helmets are so safe, why is it illegal to wear one while driving a car? There are a hell of a lot more head injuries in car accidents than motorcycle accidents.

WarChild 05-16-2009 09:09 PM

Don't get all butt hurt, I fully support your right to wear nothing on your head at all.

We all should be able to value our brains, faces and what have you accordingly. If it's worth it for you to have the wind rushing over your ears and face for the possible trade of having your face ground off one day, by all means be my guest.

Baddog, are you really going to try and argue helmets are less safe? Really?

baddog 05-16-2009 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15860748)

Baddog, are you really going to try and argue helmets are less safe? Really?

I asked a question. Answer mine first, then I will answer yours.

WarChild 05-16-2009 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15860752)
I asked a question. Answer mine first, then I will answer yours.

Sure. It's not illegal to wear a helmet in a car in British Columbia. So I don't know what to tell you.

Why do you suppose they wear full faced helmets in all levels of professional motorcycle racing where safety comes first but weight reduction is always a factor? Helmet manufacture lobbyists??? You'd think if it were more safe to not wear a helmet that racers would be all over that, no?

It's absolutely insane to argue that wearing a helmet on a motorcyle is LESS safe. Anyone that would argue that is crazy. :2 cents:

amacontent 05-16-2009 09:17 PM

I wouldnt argue with you warchild 1 bit that its safer to wear a helmet on a bike. I personally always wear one. Just not a full helmut. But if you go down on a bike, theres a million factors that will determine outcome of your health at the end of it, no matter what helmut type you are wearing.

DirtyDanza 05-16-2009 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 15860760)
I wouldnt argue with you warchild 1 bit that its safer to wear a helmet on a bike. I personally always wear one. Just not a full helmut. But if you go down on a bike, theres a million factors that will determine outcome of your health at the end of it, no matter what helmut type you are wearing.

a full face will improve your odds for sure... ive been saved by a full face... granted I I took a shitload of damage to my body... the full face saved my life.....

WarChild 05-16-2009 09:22 PM

Sure, there's tons of factors that figure in to it. I've been down in two minor accidents and one major one. Never put a scratch on a helmet in the process, luckily enough. I quite often ride in only jeans not proper motorcycle pants. I'm well aware I'm risking some severe road rash. The risk factor is OK for me, I can handle it on my butt or thigh, even if it will suck ass. On the other hand, I don't want to drag my face down the concrete not even for a second.

I'm sure Baddog's going to argue helmets reduce your visibility and restrict hearing. It's a silly argument. My helmet doesn't reduce visibility at all. I've raced cars, lots of auto cross and what not in helmets and never had a visibility problem there either.

Like I said though, but all means, wear whatever you want. It doesn't bother me.

DirtyDanza 05-16-2009 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15860752)
I asked a question. Answer mine first, then I will answer yours.

Race car drivers wear helmets and normally get out and walk away....


dale did not have a full face and did not walk away...


although the ratio of car drivers vs motorcycle riders is like 10,000 to 1 I think wearing a helmet on a bike is the way to go....


which reminds me


I wanted to ask you...

why is it you don't like helmet laws? out of curiosity

serious question .....

DirtyDanza 05-16-2009 09:26 PM

this is what i rock

http://www.motomummy.com/store/images/P/arai-12.jpg

and never once had hearing or visibility issues....


I guess the older you get your hearing go's anyways... or it could be the wind damage to the eardrums LOLOL

I dunno


I'm not there yet... but I am willing to bet ive crashed bikes more than anyone in this thread....

eroticsexxx 05-16-2009 09:43 PM

Full face helmet wearer here. :thumbsup

Wouldn't think of riding without one after a few tumbles I've taken and witnessed others take.

Road rash on one's face isn't an appealing thought in the least.

baddog 05-16-2009 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15860754)
Helmet manufacture lobbyists???

I like you, but the fact that you even suggested this instead of the real reason tells me you know little of the subject.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15860768)
Race car drivers wear helmets and normally get out and walk away....


dale did not have a full face and did not walk away...

:1orglaugh You think he died because he did not have a full face helmet? How exactly would that have helped?

baddog 05-16-2009 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 15860790)
Road rash on one's face isn't an appealing thought in the least.

Ya know, I have been riding on the street since 1971 and I am trying to remember if know of anyone that ever got road rash on their face that didn't die. Maybe one.

DirtyDanza 05-16-2009 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15860897)
I like you, but the fact that you even suggested this instead of the real reason tells me you know little of the subject.



:1orglaugh You think he died because he did not have a full face helmet? How exactly would that have helped?

no I know what he died from....


but on to the question at hand... why are you against helmets? I never understood that

baddog 05-16-2009 11:29 PM

I do not feel safer wearing one.

amacontent 05-17-2009 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15860925)
I do not feel safer wearing one.

BINGO !!!!!! And the question brought up originally was not being against helmuts, but full darth vader type helmuts tha JAP bike owners wear

eroticsexxx 05-17-2009 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15860901)
Ya know, I have been riding on the street since 1971 and I am trying to remember if know of anyone that ever got road rash on their face that didn't die. Maybe one.

I hear ya.

Have a buddy that did survive face road rash though, his facial scars remind me every time we hang out.

I used to be a sporadic helmet wearer until I bought a cruiser that just seemed to have a penchant for fucking up anyone who rode it. I bought it from a friend who had to get pins in his leg from a spill he took on it. My injury tally involved a fractured ankle, some nice road rash and a seriously bruised ego when I had a rear wheel blowout and went down a 7 foot drop off the side of the road into a tree.

Yup. Full helmet for me.

CaptainWolfy 05-17-2009 12:17 AM

i sow some scary shit last week, the guy and a girl were all over the street.. :(

Slappin Fish 05-17-2009 03:20 AM

It depends what you ride and where you ride it.

If you only take your bike out a few times a year to cruise with some friends on open roads the risk/pleasure ratio probably makes it worth the risk to wear no helmet at all, if you use your GSXR every day to go to work, weaving in an out of traffic, not only should you wear a full face but a jacket, boots, gloves...

voa 05-17-2009 03:58 AM

Helmets can safe you some time

DirtyDanza 05-17-2009 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15860925)
I do not feel safer wearing one.

fair enough...

stats wise I Think you are but to each his own... but your answer was the most honest and best ive heard of why....

you got a point... helmet or no helmet when you go down it's not fun...


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