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SZNY 05-22-2009 05:46 AM

Very good explaination Ms. Jenni

I will contact you within a few weeks because I would know more to implement into a new project we are working on :P

Due 05-22-2009 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by donnie (Post 15878673)
Does rates are not to joke with :) Why does global-access take about 50%? What makes them better than other providers like say Mblox?

Good question!

Global Accés S.L. does not take anything near 50%, if you are comparing rates with other providers be sure to compare them within the same tarif.

We also do not have monthly fees or setup fees, we handle the legal compliance issues, we prepay our clients before the telecoms actually pay and we take care of refunds and charge backs whenever required. We take the full financial risks.

We offer a full managed service without setup fees or monthly fees. We are fully integrated into both NATS and MPA3 and also offer free custom integration work for anyone with custom back ends!

donnie 05-22-2009 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Due (Post 15878902)
Good question!

Global Accés S.L. does not take anything near 50%, if you are comparing rates with other providers be sure to compare them within the same tarif.

We also do not have monthly fees or setup fees, we handle the legal compliance issues, we prepay our clients before the telecoms actually pay and we take care of refunds and charge backs whenever required. We take the full financial risks.

We offer a full managed service without setup fees or monthly fees. We are fully integrated into both NATS and MPA3 and also offer free custom integration work for anyone with custom back ends!

Ok let?s take Sweden for example? Your payout of $ 0.80 is for what tariff? 30 SEK?

If you don't mind sharing that information...

l0lf4c3 05-22-2009 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by donnie (Post 15878981)
Ok let?s take Sweden for example? Your payout of $ 0.80 is for what tariff? 30 SEK?

If you don't mind sharing that information...

True dat. Volume of calls, packages for the dropcharge, pro minute charges etc, all varies the rates, usually...

Due 05-22-2009 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by donnie (Post 15878981)
Ok let?s take Sweden for example? Your payout of $ 0.80 is for what tariff? 30 SEK?

If you don't mind sharing that information...

We charge 16 SEK per SMS in sweden, that's about $2

We pay you 80 cents, guaranteed. Make a sale today - Get paid monday the 24th of May , obviously volume speaks, if you got volumes lets talk and see how I can earn your business :thumbsup

You are comparing us to other companies who charge ?400-500 setup fee and between ?500-?1000 / month for either shared or unique short codes, then pay you 45-60 days EOM (what's up with that? why is there no FIXED payment date, don't you wanna know when you get paid ? )

After 1500 SMS's you paid your initial costs (3000 SMS's if you pay your webmasters), THEN you gotta start paying your montly fees.

I'm not saying that we are absolutely the best on the market for EVERYBODY. Volumes speak for everybody, at least with us you break even AND make a profit when you get your first message, with others you may need up to 100 text messages / day to break even (without considering development costs etc. )

Hit me up and lets talk, if you give us a try and you make less with us than with another company who offer the same I'll pay you 2 times the difference and wish you good luck with my competitor :-)

donnie 05-22-2009 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Due (Post 15879624)
We charge 16 SEK per SMS in sweden, that's about $2

We pay you 80 cents, guaranteed. Make a sale today - Get paid monday the 24th of May , obviously volume speaks, if you got volumes lets talk and see how I can earn your business :thumbsup

You are comparing us to other companies who charge ?400-500 setup fee and between ?500-?1000 / month for either shared or unique short codes, then pay you 45-60 days EOM (what's up with that? why is there no FIXED payment date, don't you wanna know when you get paid ? )

After 1500 SMS's you paid your initial costs (3000 SMS's if you pay your webmasters), THEN you gotta start paying your montly fees.

I'm not saying that we are absolutely the best on the market for EVERYBODY. Volumes speak for everybody, at least with us you break even AND make a profit when you get your first message, with others you may need up to 100 text messages / day to break even (without considering development costs etc. )

Hit me up and lets talk, if you give us a try and you make less with us than with another company who offer the same I'll pay you 2 times the difference and wish you good luck with my competitor :-)

Actually that is not a bad payout if you have low PSMS volume. 16 SEK is a strange tariff but I guess it is possible for some short codes. Or maybe that is VAT excluded? Because that would make more sense. In that case customer is charged 20 SEK.

But anyway, I like your service as it looks simple enough for anyone to use. And with no monthly fees you can?t really lose anything by giving it a try.

robfantasy 05-22-2009 10:41 AM

QUESTION =

is this possible...

have a customer send a text w/ the text code for billing to authorize charges along w/ their shipping info and set up for recurring billing of physical shippable products

what are the max allowable customer charge rates?

Due 05-24-2009 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by l0lf4c3 (Post 15878586)
I spoke about US.

In USA it is legal to bill for adult services via premium rate numbers as long as there is no nudity appearing on the same page as the phone number.


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Originally Posted by donnie (Post 15879805)
Actually that is not a bad payout if you have low PSMS volume. 16 SEK is a strange tariff but I guess it is possible for some short codes. Or maybe that is VAT excluded? Because that would make more sense. In that case customer is charged 20 SEK.

But anyway, I like your service as it looks simple enough for anyone to use. And with no monthly fees you can?t really lose anything by giving it a try.

Thanks, can't argue with that :thumbsup:thumbsup
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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 15879922)
QUESTION =

is this possible...

have a customer send a text w/ the text code for billing to authorize charges along w/ their shipping info and set up for recurring billing of physical shippable products

what are the max allowable customer charge rates?

It IS possible, many times the amount you can charge will not be high enough to cover shipped products. The maximum amount varies from country to country, In UK £10 per SMS, in Spain ?1.20 per SMS etc

Send me a mail to [email protected] and I'll review your product and let you know where I think it would make sense to start billing your customers :thumbsup

CarlosTheGaucho 05-24-2009 04:57 AM

Interesting thread.

Hypothetically, SMS would be nearly ideal payment option IF:

- the carriers wouldn't charge you to death and you could use this at the rates comparable to a third party CC biller
- you could bill up to 100 USD / charge that would appear on your phone bill
- you could authorize re billing without having to confirm every time a new charge is to be done

Of course there's the 18+ authorization and lot of restrictions regarding telecommunications locally in every each country, so this is very unlikely to happen.

JenniDahling 05-25-2009 06:44 AM

I'm amazed, a few companies signed up last week and are already reporting sales. Had to bump this. Muy bien!

l0lf4c3 05-25-2009 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JenniDahling (Post 15887406)
I'm amazed, a few companies signed up last week and are already reporting sales. Had to bump this. Muy bien!

With a 60% cut for the aggregator? Well, congrats to the winners...

Due 05-25-2009 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 15884639)
Interesting thread.

Hypothetically, SMS would be nearly ideal payment option IF:

- the carriers wouldn't charge you to death and you could use this at the rates comparable to a third party CC biller

That would be ideal, I would love that, I've seen improvements during the last couple of years and I'm we will see further improvements as well as more and more countries coming a long in the future as well :thumbsup
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- you could bill up to 100 USD / charge that would appear on your phone bill
It's definitely improving, we are working now on getting charges higher than 20-25+ approved in some countries, compared to 2 years ago where the maximum was about 5-10 USD per sms
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- you could authorize re billing without having to confirm every time a new charge is to be done
We can already do this, only the initial transaction needs approval :2 cents:
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Of course there's the 18+ authorization and lot of restrictions regarding telecommunications locally in every each country, so this is very unlikely to happen.
The 18+ (adult) content is excluded when the contract is made, not on the purchase of the content, that makes it a lot easier!


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