That's the same type of attitude he's displayed on the boards when asking questions regarding a cam project. Its as if he wants people to come running to him offering the world in a partnership all because he owns this domain. He obviously knows extremely little about the cam biz and yet has absolutely no humility or ability to take any kind of constructive criticism. He'll eventually drown in his own narcissism.

I would consider getting in on this since its new. if you get something going that i could trust. this would give you google traffic for terms
live porn
live sex
live porno

camgirls, camgirls.........

I am going to take on camgirls with my site Elite Live .com

LOL - its not got much traffic at the moment but am building the empire for it.....

Good Luck

MrFrisky you said you couldn't pay your bills and made a joke "how long until you can make me a millionaire". Then you posted on GFY during our conversation that you had customers lined up.

I wrote it has to be worth $1000 per day, if it's that good then I'd give you 1/3 profits for 20 years.

I buy high and sell low lol. Reminds of the comercial where the guy is at the auction, out bids everyone there then as soon as he wins it he says " ok i would like to sell it".

So he bought this domain for what $350,000 and obviously was the highest offer for it or the previous owner would have sold it for more. So now its up for sale for 1M lol. this is too funny. Watch he will get in a bind and wind up selling it for 150K if that.

you seriously want to be partners with this guy? 99.9% chance of disaster, take my free advice don't waste your time. If you can't get a feel for how that partnership would turn out already.... :helpme:warning

Yeah, but according to him now he has millions coming in (must be some kind of structured settlement), so wonder why he wouldn't just sit tight and use those funds to build his project. Of course, it still seems he thinks you can just get a cam site going with a few bucks and the money will come rolling in.

I lold.

I told you i couldnt pay my bills? LOL. Even if i couldnt, which i can do perfectly fine, i would be telling you that, why?
I posted during our convo that i had customers lined up? To what?
And what convo?

Full of ego crap again.. and now im sure, your ego will get in the way of anything and everything. You can wait ages for someone who can do your 1000 dollar a day. Because the ones that can, wont need you and rather rub their shit in your face bro. You can buy the BIGGEST domains in history, it would still be a bad investment. Start low, work your way up. You look like those multimillionairs buying a huge company and dont even know how to open a fucking door. Even if you could have been making awesome money already from day 1, your still here defending yourself to people who KNOW how to make money.

Wanna hear it again: Your ego gets in the way, you'll never make anything when you dont learn to shove that aside. Come back when you did bro.

Weird huh, everybody is dumb but you on this subject. Begin humble, be rich soon. Startoff like a bragging asshole going for the bonus price right away and you wont find ANYone seriously going to help you out.

Regardless of what you "promise" people, thats not how it works, and you still dont get it at page xx?

Your to full of it, case closed.

When people asked why not have a free demo of the traffic you said you wouldn't be able to pay your bills. Then straight after you got back to me you posted in your thread last chance you have a deal set.

Your advice to start with a $10 domain and work up is really stupid, to have any chance in camgirl industry you need to invest. Me saying I doubt your traffic makes $1000 a day was bad business on my part OK, but I couldn't see a deal happening. You just admitted if you had traffic worth $1000 a day you wouldn't be interested.

For someone who reckons his ego is in tact you sure are a condescending bastard.

Yes invest, just not in a 350k domain. Cams.com(Camgirlslive.com), Livejasmin.com and Streamate.com all trace their origins to $10 domains. There's a couple dozen other things you need to invest in besides a domain to make a cam site/program successful, one without the others means failure. You could have bought a very nice 2 word webcam domain for 5k-10k and used the other 340k to get the project rolling quickly, now you've been stuck with a 350k domain for 5 months making you less than $500/mo. Looks like men.com all over again.

Hello

Can you give an example of a two word webcam domain that you think someone should spend $5K - $10K on?

Thanks - just interested

I have a few, heck I sold sweetcams.com to Lars for $500 a few years back and he quickly made it one of the sites in his program. (Cams.com) Guess I should have kept it. Have you scoured the domain auction/listing sites for cam domains?

Hi I just asked the question because I would not pay $500 or any thing more that the reg fee for a two word cams domain because there are plenty of them.

I would only pay bigger money if the domain meant something to me.... for example i own Elite Live and that may appeal to say Elite Dollars who may pay $5K but no one else will.

However having said all this I certainly will be hunting typin cam domain, so will check out the auctions.

Thanks

To have any chance you need to know what the fuck you doing. If you don't you can make all the "investments" you want, you will just end up losing all your money.

I own a couple decent two word "webcam" domains that I paid $10 for. Some of them are IntimateWebcams.com RealityWebcams.com and I also AmateurGirlCams.com and AmateurGuyCams.com I would take any of those with my knowledge over a camgirls domain and not knowing shit.

You not going to find any two word cam domains available to register unless it is something that doesn't make sense like mudcam or hammercam lol or wait both of those are taken. Hell it's almost impossible to find any two word domains available that make sense.

Found a good cam domain yesterday for 10 bucks. Setup, whitelabeled, linked into network all in about an hour. That includes time spent goofing off with an old highschool girlfriend on FB. Won't be "bringing in millions" but will add a tad to the plus side of the sheet. Spent the rest of the day on my xbox360, I love my job.

He's been offered a chance to get his money back..

I dont understand the bolded part up there in the quote?

I can be a condescending bastard. But at the end of the day, i am making money and your stuck with a huge investment and no clue what to do because your ego gets in the way.

Btw. i didnt say you needed to buy a 10dollar domain. Your missing the point completely, as with any other advice given to you here.

You keep thinking we need YOU to make money, but mirror mirror on the wall: YOU are the one really needing us to make money. Not because WE are that awesome, but we have the experience. We failed some times, we learned it the hard way, and now some of us are making very nice money.

Tell this condescending bastard something: If someone would come up to you and the first thing he said (and you knowing he doesnt have to much of a clue on what to do now) is: I dont think your traffic/experience is worth shit, make me 1000 dollar a day, and we will see..

What would you do? Tell him to fuckoff, or help him out?

Arrogance doesnt work to well when your at step 1 of the ladder. That might sound like a fucking arrogant bastard. But the people who offered you advice here KNOW their stuff.

You just keep putting your ego in front of any potential partnership.

Investing is a key part of succeeding, but you did it the wrong way around. Backwards. You invested a shitload in a domainname, and now dont know what to do with it right? Seriously: You could have bought a name for 1k, and invested the rest in building it. Hell you would have had more then enough time and money to learn, and make it really succesfull.

I KNOW this all sounds like im on top of the world and being arrogant. But seeing how your approach here is, and how you aproached me without having a clue about what i run or manage. Well..

In short: You ask advice on how to make money, and its not hard to see you dont have a clue yet even with all the advice given. You did it all backwards, but theres still a chance to get it right. You think we need you to make money, but YOU need us to make money. And coming off strong with potential new partners they need to make you 1k a day, well, good luck finding someone that: a) can do that b) can do that and feels the need to help you out c) see A and B, and puts up with egos like you showed them.

No offense, just telling it as i see it bro.

for fucks sake dont spend more than 6 seconds responding to this idiot

Hi will76
I emailed you about a partnership, never heard back yet

Damnit your right.

MrFrisky's email to me Aug 6

let me know what deal we are talking about. Feel free to buzz me on the messengers.

Thanks!



His post in GFY Aug 6

If you had a clue you wouldnt even been posting in a biz thread. If i would be throwing out free samples i would be broke at the end of the month.

Just sayin'....


On a serious note:

I spilled some freebies around, and i know you all want more. But i have a couple of serious companies interested now, so i will do the last test day today and see who wants it the most


If YOU were serious about business then why fuck me around like that?

I am also invloved in another non adult sector and had a guy who came over from France call me up because he wanted to sell his product. The product he wanted to sell is in a very matured market and becuase he made a logo, box, container he thought he could force a sale on people.

He only spoke about how he wanted people to work very hard to sell his brand and do all sorts of things for him.... I knew that other people who made it selling this product did the initial leg work themselves day and night

I did not buy a single unit from him.....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

who is this?

where the fuck did this idiot come from?

idiot number 20 correcting those numbers, next

You quote some randomness and it makes no sense at all.

You want me to give you 1000 dollars of traffic (which i could do perfectly fine every day), and give me a handfull in return. AND you approach people like you know it all, but you dont. If i would be giving you 1000 dollars worth of traffic, i would be running your company.

Do you even READ what people are telling you here?
Im not wasting my time with you anymore. Time is to precious and you wouldnt be listening anyway. Your acting like an idiot.

Bye.

You ask me about a deal then post on a public forum same day the deal is almost tied up with some big companies, then blame me for ruining the deal.

Dear Mr Cam Girls

This thread has been quite entertaining, although you are right to try all avenues.

If you beleive in your product then you should pitch it to investors in person.

Advice - make sure you go the numbers on the tip of your tongue! They will expect you to put in a lot of work for their investment and want a share of your company.

Check out this link, Getting The Money

Good Luck

dude just let it go, im not wasting my time anymore..

didn't mean to kick the soapbox out from under you

You didnt, people just give up on you because you keep acting like a 4yr old whos father bought him this 300k bike but you cant ride, and dont want to really hear anyone who can.

Just forget him already, go and relax man :)

LOL!

Someone said almost this exact same analogy about this thread to me the other week. Told me a story about how some douche spent like $200k having a custom bike built, then he comes to pick it up and he can't even ride! Turned out he got the money for it from his INLAWS!

Too funny :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Great analogy.

Why don't you read this thread and get some idea of all you need to do to get your own cam site going. http://www.gfy.com/it/922335-cam-companies-programs-looking-add-cam-site-portfolio-step-inside.html

thanks, a million dollars! What's the breakdown of that I wonder. For $100K you could pay camgirls $10 per hour to stay online, $1000 per day for 4 models online would last 3 months. Traffic would be another problem. Lucky there's white label out there for all the start ups.

And don't quote me and just post a laugh smiley I'm just chatting

You want 4 models online 24/7?

This is getting weirder and weirder.

should stop most of the traffic bouncing. some sites only have a few models online and fill the page with offline models, looks ok

didn't bother reading past page 3

We will buy your domain for $350k if you want to get your money back -- email webmaster [at] webcams.com if you are interested in selling it

Your figures are SO wrong. They are not even close to reality.

Processing -- 10 to 12%, even with merchant account -- you don't get a better deal than this until you have a lot of volume. You could use a US based merchant account and save 3% of this, but then you have to deal with a 1% visa cb ratio

Models -- 35 to 40%

Affiliates -- 25 to 30%

So, you have 18% to 30% left over to cover fraud staff, customer service staff, development, general administrative costs, and marketing costs. You will need a full time fraud team, and millions spent on software development to get a decent product that can compete with current sites, plus expert product managers, senior developers, etc.

People who are saying it is easy are completely clueless. Webcams is the most complicated business in the adult marketplace, which is why there are only a few big sites.