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Robbie 06-13-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15957025)
http://monstersofcock.com/t1/pps=comein/ I think they make alittle money look at the fucking pictures in the tour some condom some no condom. If its hot and they still get their cum shot on tits or face or ass.I dont think they care.

I'm pretty sure the condom ones are at the express request of one of the talents. Everybody has one of those scenes here and there. For instance CM did a scene a couple of years back for a friends company and the male talent had a "pact" with his girlfriend that he would only have sex with other women when wearing a condom. Thus, a condom scene.

It was lame by the way.

I'm not arguing with you or anything. I'm just saying that when I watch porn, I'm not there to see a condom or for that matter anybody "making love" either lol

I want to see some major fucking. And the sales I have made from sites I have promoted over the years with my traffic have confirmed that to me.

Just like when we opened up claudia-marie.com 2 years ago. I could have went the softcore route...but I KNEW where the money was at and I went and got it.

Anyway, it's just my opinion on it. One thing is for sure. Non-condom will outsell condom every minute of the day, every day of the week. And I'm not gonna shoot any condom scenes ever. I kinda hope everybody else does so I can make more money. lol

MissMina 06-13-2009 04:06 PM

Maybe condoms that don't look like there is one on. Just an idea.

tony286 06-13-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15957046)
I'm pretty sure the condom ones are at the express request of one of the talents. Everybody has one of those scenes here and there. For instance CM did a scene a couple of years back for a friends company and the male talent had a "pact" with his girlfriend that he would only have sex with other women when wearing a condom. Thus, a condom scene.

It was lame by the way.

I'm not arguing with you or anything. I'm just saying that when I watch porn, I'm not there to see a condom or for that matter anybody "making love" either lol

I want to see some major fucking. And the sales I have made from sites I have promoted over the years with my traffic have confirmed that to me.

Just like when we opened up claudia-marie.com 2 years ago. I could have went the softcore route...but I KNEW where the money was at and I went and got it.

Anyway, it's just my opinion on it. One thing is for sure. Non-condom will outsell condom every minute of the day, every day of the week. And I'm not gonna shoot any condom scenes ever. I kinda hope everybody else does so I can make more money. lol

if they like claudia marie they will buy if she was fucking in a wet suit. I think its important to you because thats what you are into. When I was a porn watcher I never thought about it. Condoms are not softcore. lol

Robbie 06-13-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15957093)
I think its important to you because thats what you are into.

BINGO. And I create and promote what I know. Basic rule there. That's why it's successful. My cock is like a Divining Rod for money. :1orglaugh
So far it's worked out pretty good.

If I find it "hot" it seems to sell. The things I find "cold", not so much. I'm pretty sure that how most of us work right?

I personally wouldn't watch a condom scene. When I put my marketing cap on the first thing that comes to mind is: "There must be something wrong with either the girl or the guy because they are wearing a rubber" And the second thought I'd have would be: "This sucks"

I wouldn't be able to get excited by it at all. Hell, I feel cheated if I watch a scene and the girl doesn't do anal. :1orglaugh

I suppose that if a company shot all their scenes with condoms they would have some people maybe buy it. But I know I wouldn't. And I think a large portion of the consumers wouldn't as well.

Just my thought. One way or another...if I have any control over it... a condom covered penis will never be seen in anything I shoot.

tony286 06-13-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15957111)
BINGO. And I create and promote what I know. Basic rule there. That's why it's successful. My cock is like a Divining Rod for money. :1orglaugh
So far it's worked out pretty good.

If I find it "hot" it seems to sell. The things I find "cold", not so much. I'm pretty sure that how most of us work right?

I personally wouldn't watch a condom scene. When I put my marketing cap on the first thing that comes to mind is: "There must be something wrong with either the girl or the guy because they are wearing a rubber" And the second thought I'd have would be: "This sucks"

I wouldn't be able to get excited by it at all. Hell, I feel cheated if I watch a scene and the girl doesn't do anal. :1orglaugh

I suppose that if a company shot all their scenes with condoms they would have some people maybe buy it. But I know I wouldn't. And I think a large portion of the consumers wouldn't as well.

Just my thought. One way or another...if I have any control over it... a condom covered penis will never be seen in anything I shoot.

I can see your point.

Robbie 06-13-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15957119)
I can see your point.

Really? Cause I'm just making this shit up as I go. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Now get your big ass over to Vegas and let's hit the town bro.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-13-2009 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15957093)
if they like claudia marie they will buy if she was fucking in a wet suit.

Wet suit?!? :jerkoff

http://www.americasbestmyspacecommen...a-wet-suit.jpg

Please Robbie, please... :bowdown

ADG

Due 06-13-2009 04:56 PM

According to the NY DAILY NEWS there is about 55000 people that get AIDS in USA EVERY year, compared to these 16 people during the last 5 years (3-4 per year) in the adult business it does not really appear to be that bad, probably below average of any other industry.

Walter Gropius 06-14-2009 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bizarrejan (Post 15956863)
I do agree with you, but I also think that in life we take risks every day of our lives, we can try to limit the risks which we take, ie, condoms, but nothing is 100 percent safe......

Maybe not 100 percent safe but wearing a condom does reduce the risk of getting HIV or any other STI by like a million billion zillion times (ish), so it's pretty much as good as 100 percent.


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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15957132)
Wet suit?!? :jerkoff

http://www.americasbestmyspacecommen...a-wet-suit.jpg

Please Robbie, please... :bowdown

ADG

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

amacontent 06-14-2009 09:48 AM

ADG, before jumping on the drama bandwagon like the LA Times, check facts bro. Out of the 16., they were all either in the gay industry or wanting to join the industry and were denied. So Aim is doing thier job. There was not 1 case in non gay porn.

Robbie 06-14-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter Gropius (Post 15958001)
Maybe not 100 percent safe but wearing a condom does reduce the risk of getting HIV or any other STI by like a million billion zillion times (ish), so it's pretty much as good as 100 percent.

Here are the stats I looked up on the odds:

"According to a report by researchers Norman Hearst and Stephen Hulley in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the odds of a heterosexual becoming infected with AIDS after one episode of penile-vaginal intercourse with someone in a non-high-risk group without a condom are one in 5 million. With a condom it's even safer--one in 50 million. Just to put this in perspective, the chances of someone in your family getting injured next year in a bubble bath are 1 in 1.3 million (source: The Odds on Virtually Everything, Heron House, 1980). You're in much greater danger of being struck by lightning (1 in 600,000), having your house bombed (1 in 290,000), or being murdered (1 in 11,000).

The numbers get a lot worse if you engage in "high-risk behavior"--having sexual intercourse or sharing needles with a member of a high-risk group, e.g., a gay or bisexual male or IV drug user from a major metro area, or a hemophiliac. The chances of getting AIDS from one such encounter range as high as 1 in 10,000 using a condom to 1 in 1,000 unprotected. Even if your partner tests negative for human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), the chances of infection from a high-risk person are still relatively high--1 in 50,000 without a condom. That's because there's a 45 to 90 day window during which a newly infected person can infect others but test negative. (A few people go as long as 180 days.)

From there on out, statistically speaking, things deteriorate pretty fast. If your partner is HIV-positive, your chances of getting AIDS after one night are 1 in 5,000 with a condom, 1 in 500 without. Have sex with an HIV-positive partner 500 times using condoms and your chances escalate to 1 in 11. Skip the gift wrap and they're 2 in 3.

A couple points: These odds apply equally to men and women. Although there's reason to believe male-to-female AIDS transmission happens more often than female-to-male, the amount of difference is unknown. Also, I have to emphasize again, the numbers involve a lot of guesswork. The authors admit they could be off by a factor of ten in either direction. Still, one message comes through loud and clear: by far the best thing you can do to avoid AIDS is to be picky about your partners. Use of condoms reduces your risk by a factor of 10, sleeping only with people who test negative reduces it by a factor of 5 to 50, but avoiding high-risk partners reduces it by a factor of 5,000. (You'd also be well advised to avoid high-risk behavior, such as unprotected receptive anal sex.) Asking for a resume may not be romantic, but it beats Kaposi's sarcoma."

Robbie 06-14-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter Gropius (Post 15958001)
Maybe not 100 percent safe but wearing a condom does reduce the risk of getting HIV or any other STI by like a million billion zillion times (ish), so it's pretty much as good as 100 percent.

So a condom statistically raises your level of protection by a factor of 10

Not quite a million billion zillion...but still pretty good. :)

Walter Gropius 06-14-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15958454)
So a condom statistically raises your level of protection by a factor of 10

Not quite a million billion zillion...but still pretty good. :)

Ah come on, I was pretty close! :upsidedow

Robbie 06-14-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter Gropius (Post 15958491)
Ah come on, I was pretty close! :upsidedow

As Don Adams used to say on "Get Smart" the television series: "Missed it by that much" :1orglaugh

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-14-2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 15958378)
ADG, before jumping on the drama bandwagon like the LA Times, check facts bro.

I'll try and be as careful and do as good of fact checking as you:


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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 15952696)
Maybe all the peeps on AIMs shit should get al the facts before jumping on them as I should have before jumping on Nina

...and from now on I will trust everything AIM says without question. :thumbsup :upsidedow

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 15944591)
quote from LA DIRECT MODELS:

‎(11:55 AM):
I spoke to Brooke who said if it was a positive test in the adult industry we would all be informed ASAP and shut down. AIM tests Civilians, and talent!!! That is exactly when she said to me if it was in the industry we would know

‎(11:56 AM):
She said there is nothing to be alarmed about!

That was before Brooke admitted there was a Positive case after all, but that it was not a "major event".

It was only after the story came out about an additional "16 performers" testing positive that AIM made some clarification. Even with that, not all of the facts are known.

I do try to be careful and fact check before making claims, in this case I cited the LA Times as a source, which had cited public health officials.

:2 cents:

ADG


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