really?? tell me who is the leader then?

Here's just a peanut of knowledge for you...
 

According to Avert, which is just one of countless organizations that track the pattern of new HIV infections, at the end of 2007, women accounted for 50% of all adults living with HIV worldwide, and for 59% in sub-Saharan Africa.

Doesn't matter since WORLDWIDE stats aren't really applicable to the US.

Actually it is applicable Tempest, cause if anyone is going to be blaming faggots and trannies for this HIV outbreak, you better have valid stats and/or info to back it up. Otherwise, you just sound ignorant :-)

Education = It's a good thing.

post a link to back this up first off.
second off 22 cases of hiv in porn since 2004 and 10 were gays. That says it all and disagrees with your post.

You cannot base any statistics off of a sampling of 22 people in a risky industry.

And even if you did... 10 is less than 50% of 22. Which makes you wrong, not him.

No.. it's not applicable.. You simply cannot compare the stats which are skewed towards africa with far less contraception available with cases in the US... If you're trying to make a point then at least use just US stats.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/re...sheets/msm.htm

MSM accounted for 71% of all HIV infections among male adults :disgust

How would the girls know if they are not told?

The best question would be....Who are the guys that swing both ways?

not true when there is a huge number difference in the number of straights to gays. so 10 is a huge number out of the 22

hahahahaha

There use to be a cool myspace page that told everyone but the fags had it pulled down. I can tell you Derek Hay, and Christianx, and a bunch of others of LA Directs site are.

It's obvious who went to college and who didn't. First of all the stats above are from 2005, and only represent data from 33 states with long-term, confidential name-based HIV reporting from people who chose to disclose that information. Moreover, this study has nothing to do with the spread of HIV among sex workers. It was a study based on men who admitted to having sex with men. Africa is a good example because "sex workers" are common out there, and sex work out there is preferred to be condomless. It is sex practices that spreads HIV, not gays or trannies. Places like the "bunny ranch" in Nevada haven't had a single HIV infection in its 40 yrs of business, because condoms are required!!!!!

While interesting, it still doesn't paint a clear picture.. That 71% could have been out of 100 guys and yet 10billion women could be infected.. what's the M2M percentage compared to all of the US cases. While HIV is often talked about in terms of gay men, I'd be interested in seeing a percentage breakdown for gay women as well.

Donny, why dont you make it your mission to put out the switch hitter list of male performers?

You would probably do the best job at finding out who is who.:thumbsup

I feel sorry for the people that got infected with this terrible disease :(

donnylong you really don't need to worry that much, if you fuck with a condom like any responsible male talent would do the chances of getting infected is near null.

If you catch it without then you can blame nobody other than yourself, HIV would still be here even if there was no gay or trannies

Again I am right and here is why. If you want to talk about sex workers or the porn biz, its very simple. How many gay scenes do you think are shot in LA alone and how many do you think are straight? I would guess 100 to 500 straight scenes to ever 1 gay scene shot maybe more, and out of 22 people 10 were gays that got infected in the porn biz. that number says it all.

sorry to tell you that almost no one in porn uses condoms or needs to with our testing if the fags would stay on there side of the fence. So your wrong about male talent.

The only applicable stats would be the HIV infections in porn. Comparing "Average Joe" getting a shitty cock and then going home and fucking his wife is like comparing apples to oranges, the numbers pool is greater when the possibility pool is an entire city, state, country, or world. Inside the porn biz the numbers pool is much smaller; and both AIDS outbreaks seem to suggest that switch hitting is a dangerous mix inside the industry, so I agree with Donny on this point.

I will not stereotype gays but could it be that the pornography business might attract more wild lifestyle gays, the kind of stereotypes the gay community often fights against and stereotypes that don't statistically apply to the gay male community at large? If the gay talent in this industry were to report they sleep randomly with 3-4 different non porn gay men monthly, throw all the worldwide statistics out the window -- those stats don't apply to this kind of situation.

Some girl came in today to do a shoot...with an expired AIM test(Not their FAULT...disclaimer..lol) ,but WTF was she thinking. I look at it and gave her her walking papers. What kinda Suitcase Pimp in this climate would have a girl go that far without everything in order....pfffff(letting off steam)

Could be...yes? But could it also be that the pornography business might attract more wild lifestyle heterosexuals as well? Were any of the female performers infected also IV drug users? 'Cause we know none of that goes on in the industry, right?!! Both sides can throw stats like crazy, but there will be confounding variables to every study. The only truth about the spread of HIV, is that ignorance is a common thread. Donny's comments are hateful and ingorant...

donnylong: You are obviously a bigoted idiot. Go Fuck YOURSELF!!!

BTW, straight porn performers are many, many more times more likely to contract STDs including HIV as the vast majority of straight porn is bareback (no condoms). The majority of gay porn is filmed using safer sex practices.

Can't speak to gay porn but any tranny porn I've seen the anal sex was always done with a condom... can't say I've ever seen any hetro anal sex done with a condom.

just to put a stop to the nonsense i have read on this thread ..... HIV test or not adult performers are at risk because an infected ( read HIV Positive, not full blown aids) performer could very well have a dose of tritherapy a couple days before taking an HIV test and then test negative ..... it is well known here in th**land that girls infected and working in bars do this all the time to keep their job...

also i would not surprised to hear in a couple months that the lab testing performers is a huge scam , taking bribes for neg results or mixing samples etc etc .....

how can anyone with half a braincell fuck bareback worryless just because a piece of paper says its safe ????? and are checks for other STD's mandatory or just HIV????

another thing comes to mind, what difference it makes that people in the porn idustry get infected? mainstream people also fuck bareback and the last girl you fucked off camera , did you ask her if she shagged a "faggot" before you? does she only know? maybe she got a blood transfusion? maybe she had hepatitis ? ohhh but its no big deal because its not in the porn industry ......... tkssssss


:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

This became more and more fuck up.Who know how more people are infected

It is my understanding that IV drug users using contaminated needles account for the largest number of new cases of HIV at the present time.

How is it ignorance????? I just posted the stats! 100 to 500 straight movies shot to every 1 gay movie shot and this might be higher and 10 gays out of 22 people get hiv. THEY ARE A HUGE HIGHER RISK. How could you argue different?

you ask why the hate?
Let me give you 2 scenarios.

1.YOUR A MALE PERFORMER AND GET TO SET TO FUCK THIS SUPER HOT NICE PIECE OF FRESH MEAT ASS 18 YEAR OLD THAT IS CUTE AS A BUTTON AND YOUR GETTING PAID 800 DOLLARS, FROM LETS SAY VIVID. YOU FEEL LIKE A KING AND CANT WAIT TO FUCK HER AND GET PAID.

2. YOUR A MALE PERFORMER AND GET TO SET TO FUCK THIS SUPER HOT NICE PIECE OF FRESH MEAT ASS 18 YEAR OLD THAT IS CUTE AS A BUTTON AND YOUR GETTING PAID 800 DOLLARS, FROM LETS SAY VIVID.

THE GIRL STARTS BRAGGING TO YOU ABOUT HOW ITS ONLY HER SECOND SCENE AND SHE GOT TO FUCK LETS SAY CHRISTIANXXX AKA TRANNYFUCKERXXX FOR HER FIRST SCENE THE DAY BEFORE AND IT WAS A CREAM PIE. SHE ALSO TELLS YOU HER AGENCY IS LA DIRECT AND SHE FUCKED HER AGENT OFF CAMERA BEFORE THAT. YOU TURN AROUND WITH VOMIT IN YOUR MOUTH AND ASK HER IF SHE HAD ANY IDEA HOW MANY FAGS AND TRANNIES THOSE GUYS FUCKED EVERY WEEK AND HOW MUCH OF A HI RISK OF HIV THEY WERE. SHE SAYS NO ANDDOESNT BELIEVE YOU AND YOU SHOW HER PROOF ON YOUR PHONE. SHE BREAKS OUT IN TEARS, CALLS HER AGENT CURSING AT HIM AND FIRES HIM AND THEN WALKS OFF THE SET AND LEAVES THE BUSINESS FOREVER.

WOULD YOU BE PISSED BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME ON REAL SETS IN THIS BUSINESS ALL BECAUSE OF SOME FAGGOT JUMPING THE FENCE.

BY THE WAY YOU DONT GET THE 800 DOLLARS AFTER SHE WALKS OFF! :disgust

Those girls and guys often travel.. staying away from LA won't do much.. not to mention people who travel to LA to shoot then go home.

that is very true :Oh crap

fucking sad

haha absolutely, straight people don't get HIV everybody knows that :2 cents:

I'm well aware that almost no one in porn uses condoms, but that doesn't make it less wrong or more right does it ? The testing won't help you a lot, it will just tell you when it's too late and allow you to quickly clean up the mess by 1: remove the bad apple, 2: indicate approximate time of infection, 3: locate other performers who may have been exposed as well.

holy fuck what an absolute moron

One thing I can say for gfy, there will always be those un-gifted, mentally challenged individuals that love to go gay bashing. Thanks for making me proud to be a gay man, and shame on you for embarrassing the majority of other upstanding straight people who will have none of your non-sensical rantings.

Btw..those "10 hiv fags" were more than likely STRAIGHT guys who go "gay for pay" because they get paid more in gay films than straight films.

So if you want to "lecture" someone, you had better address the CORRECT audience in this case and that more than likely would be the STRAIGHT actors.

i know what his response is going to be, and i'd have to agree with it - there is no such thing as 'gay for pay' when it comes to dudes. a thousand bucks or whatever they get paid for a scene is not going to get any purely heterosexual male to suck a dick or get fucked in the ass. some people go both ways, these guys who do 'gay for pay' like the cock, maybe even more than pussy.

So what you are saying is that its the same risk having vaginal sex & anal sex? Are you kiddding me? How many of these cases come from Vaginal Sex? Our last outbreak was from condomless anal sex. I really dont think that its even the same ball park.

What a terrible circumstance for some of the perfomers affected, which has turned into a pissing match.

Very nice guys, whatever is whatever. Take your great I told you so's. What good will it do for the unfortunate people in this mess?

Wow

I hate to break this to you donny ..... lol .... but just about every girl that's shot in LA works in Fla , too .... you're not saving yourself from anything by shooting there instead of LA

Methinks Donnylong has got some sexuality issues ....