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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-14-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 15959634)
I cant name anyone publicly I dont want the expense of fending off a lawsuit but ask around...its common knowledge

This thread is broke as a joke... :1orglaugh

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ke_South_1.jpg

E-mail me privately with this common knowledge, since you are too frightened to even announce the Producer/Director publicly in this thread which you titled, "By the end of the weekend everyone will know who the HIV performer is": webmaster (AT) asiandivagirls (dot) com

I see you are still logged in and online, so I'll be sure to let everyone know if you came through by the "end of the weekend" (about 2 hours from now here on the West Coast).

ADG

davecummings 06-14-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 15959119)
funny you mention Kayden of all people she knows far less than I do, she asks me for info. As for Matt I dont know who that is.

I can only say that two of the parties directly involved told me that aim has threatened them with legal action if they come forward.

as for aim lying, that is well documented right here aim lied about this from day one then came back and told a half truth.

AIM doesn't need mikesouth.com to make them look bad they are doing an exemplary job on their own.

I know everyone involved and I have made efforts to speak directly with everyone involved, not all agreed to speak but not all didnt.

Above, you said "I can only say that two of the parties directly involved told me that aim has threatened them with legal action if they come forward." I know I've asked you this three previous times this weekend, but let dumb dave try it one more time:

Did AIM, per your above wording, "threatened them with legal action if they come forward" mean that AIM itself would be taking the legal action against them; or, was AIM merely counselling them that some other entity could take action against them (like LA Health, or some agency that "polices" violations of the medical disclosure laws)?

It's important to know, Mike ---one is a "threat", while the other is "caring-counseling" and "info-providing".

My question goes to the basics of whether AIM "threatened" or merely provided info --you or somebody has broadcast/reported that AIM "threatened", but per the question I've raised THREE times before this, before I fault AIM in my mind, I personally need to know if you have been announcing a "threat", or could it perhaps have been merely "info"! Please tell us the specifics of what your source told you that journalistically confirmed for you that it was a threat that AIM itself would be the entity to pursue legal action against him.

What do you think about the posting someone made earlier today about the "lie" you are accusing AIM of concerning the victims only previous AIM test date--that poster suggested that the victim might have tested elsewhere, but the test at AIM was her first AIM test (if that comes out being the case, IMO, you'll owe AIM an apology for saying AIM lied--and, some might feel that you also owe us GFY readers an apology for reporting something that was inaccurate?)

There are TWO questions above, Mike---please answer BOTH of them. Thanks.

Prediction---you will soon have a soap-box and be able to again harp like you've done in the past (would that be your personal opinion, or your reporter's role?) and make an issue out of the PCR by DNA test not being (as LA Health Dept told us it WAS, that night at VCAs studio), the best available test for talent.

Dumb Dave, Who is tearing my remaining hair out trying to separate your posting's unbiased "reporting", from your personal shots!

mikesouth 06-14-2009 10:07 PM

Dave I can only tell you what was told to me and how it was told to me it wasnt told to me as though it was part of any sort of counseling

Maybe it was her first "AIM" test i suppose thats possible but it doesnt mitigate the fact that when aim was asked about this initially they lied period LA Health authorities have repeatedly said that aim has always been less than cooperative if it looks like they are hiding something why do you suppose that is.

mikesouth 06-14-2009 10:09 PM

and ADG everyone in porn does know pretty much

mikesouth 06-14-2009 10:16 PM

Dave is it true I am critical of AIM, absolutely positively. I love this biz and I think AIM has lost sight of its soul.

Do I want the business to suffer not at all but I want the performers to suffer least of all, they have the most to lose. If AIM is withholding information that prevents the performers from making an informed decision then AIM is being reckless.

I would hate to see the county or the state step in ideally Id like to see us as an industry fix this problem and make AIM what it should be, a professionally run organization with a qualified board and oversight.

davecummings 06-14-2009 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 15959701)
and ADG everyone in porn does know pretty much

I don't!

mikesouth 06-14-2009 10:28 PM

ask around dave its easy to find

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-14-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 15959701)
and ADG everyone in porn does know pretty much

Well, now I guess that I know now too.

If the names that I heard are accurate, that makes this even more mind-boggling, since I know the supposed male talent, and he is a veteran of the industry and should have known better. :(

Let's see how this sad saga plays out...

ADG

mikesouth 06-14-2009 10:41 PM

Thats the thing ADG it IS sad

its a tough thing to see happening. but its time to fix it for good...had we fixed it last time instead of letting AIM go ahead business as usual we wouldnt be in this situation.

You have Sharon mitchell running around in a white lab coat calling herself Dr Mitchell Phd and you think that isnt going to come back and bite you in the ass?

AIM needs professionals and oversight if AIM had a board that consisted of UCLA Med School professors or the like do you think we'd be in this mess?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-14-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 15959768)
Thats the thing ADG it IS sad

its a tough thing to see happening. but its time to fix it for good...had we fixed it last time instead of letting AIM go ahead business as usual we wouldnt be in this situation.

True...

We're from the same generation Mike, so I think you will identify with this.

I just put on the Blind Faith album, and listened to "Well Alright":

Quote:

Well all right so I`ve been foolish
Well all right let people know
'Bout the dreams and wishes that you dream
In the night when lights are low

Well all right, Well all right
You know we'll live and love with all our might
Well all right, Well all right
You know our lifetime love will be all right

Well all right so I'm not working
Well all right let people say
That those foolish kids can't be ready
For the love that comes their way
http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploa...lind_faith.jpg

And the even more poignant and apropo, "Can't Find My Way Home":



Quote:

Come down off your throne and leave your body alone.
Somebody must change.
You are the reason I've been waiting so long.
Somebody holds the key.

But I'm near the end and I just ain't got the time
And I'm wasted and I cant find my way home.

Come down on your own and leave your body alone.
Somebody must change.
You are the reason I've been waiting all these years.
Somebody holds the key.
One of my favorite songs to play on solo acoustic guitar... :2 cents:

Peace,

ADG

mikesouth 06-15-2009 12:15 AM

so true adg so true

back when rock and roll had a message...

Ya know whats funny I look back at the 60s and realize that we really did have a civil war

wonder how they teach it in schools these days...Kent state, jackson state, civil rights, womens rights, the pill viet nam they all came together, individually not much would have happened but together they forced change that will last way past our lifetimes.

STAROTICA 06-15-2009 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 15958588)

NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, CNN, API, UPI, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times and even NPR have all done stories on this and every one has cast AIM in a bad light, very bad.

Performers are furious with AIM for putting them at risk and not telling them. There is talk of boycotting AIM and AIM tests.


What will take its place is any ones guess but Im hearing that L.A. County is going to take over, issuing permits to performers that are in congruence with what prostitutes must do in Nevada, weekly testing for STDs and such. Much more stringent that the current methodology in porn. The state may pass legislation as well and Cal-OSHA will be all over compliance.

If you think California cant afford it think again, they will see this as a profit center.



To cast AIM in a "bad" light is not really hard to do.....


Talk is CHEAP....Mike and boycot is a pretty strong word.....their are alternatives.....

http://www.talenttestingservice.com



It will be a profit center for them....but not nearly as expensive as it is now......maybe on the level of the NEV brothel workers pay. Hell all of them may be able to form a UNION now!

If LA County takes over it will look like this.....


http://www.filmla.com/


were EVERYONE porn and NON porn have to go and get a permit to do a "legit" shoot....

STAROTICA 06-15-2009 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by davecummings (Post 15959720)
I don't!


Dave.....your spending way too much time in the trenches......hey you walked into that one.....


FYI......For those that DONT know Dave Cummings...writes a column every month to inform readers about what's going on in the adult business. :)


Dave Cummings - In The Trenches

STAROTICA 06-15-2009 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 15959484)
Hep C will take you out quicker that HIV. And, its 20 times more virulent.
Personally, I'd choose HIV over Hep C. Anyday. I know people with both... And the HIV'ers are doing fine. The Heppers are holding on for dear life :(
Duke

Duke....even though you have shed some light on a subject I didnt know too much about...and I am not makeing light of a shiity situation.....but I would still FUCK the dogshit of of Pamela Anderson....RAW DAWG....DAWG......Hep C or not.....at least it will look good on my headstone and I will be LEGEND! :helpme

Robbie 06-15-2009 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by STAROTICA (Post 15959921)
I would still FUCK the dogshit of of Pamela Anderson....RAW DAWG....DAWG......Hep C or not.....at least it will look good on my headstone and I will be LEGEND! :helpme

I don't know enough about how Hep C is spread...is it always contagious or just sometimes?

But either way...I have to say I would drill her asshole out while you nail that pussy :pimp Fuck it, you only live once.

STAROTICA 06-15-2009 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pilforgod (Post 15959438)
Skimmed the thread and saw someone mentioned the need for an instant HIV test.

I actually work with a company that provides this in a ton of markets..www.tkno.org can get there within an hour if they service your market.


BINGO WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!! wow...we only had to wait till 2009 to come up with this idea! We are a bunch of rocket scientists here in the world of porn!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-15-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 15959878)
so true adg so true

back when rock and roll had a message...

Ya know whats funny I look back at the 60s and realize that we really did have a civil war

wonder how they teach it in schools these days...Kent state, jackson state, civil rights, womens rights, the pill viet nam they all came together, individually not much would have happened but together they forced change that will last way past our lifetimes.

There was a unity of purpose back then...

It's mutated, and I think even helped to propel the first African American into the highest public office, but all too often people and organizations get preoccupied with their own narrow agendas and special interests, and lose sight of the big picture.

The same is true of the adult industry.

The adult industry is so fragmented and driven by large companies, that instead of combatting piracy and such, some at the top embrace it for their own short term profits, even though they are killing off many of the producers which the industry is built upon.

It's indeed disheartening that the mostly bogus adult social networking / dating businesses (and other companies propping up the loss leader sites based upon pirated/stolen content), could give a sh*t about whether the sites they advertise on are built upon stolen content, so long as they get traffic and make sells.

Likewise, some of the largest program owners have launched their own tube and other content piracy sites to drive traffic to themselves, with no consideration whatsoever about the cost to the industry as a whole.

At times the adult industry is it's own worst enemy.

Hopefully, the laws regarding piracy and copyright violation will catch up with the technology.

I always imagine how the industry would be so much better if we all tried to work together for a common purpose, instead of some always trying to get over on others. I honestly believe that everyone would be better off if we did - the adult businesses as well as the consumers.

Perhaps that is too much to hope for.

:2 cents:

ADG

STAROTICA 06-15-2009 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15958716)
What about all the guys who are shooting porn in the rest of the country? Or the rest of the world? It's kinda a conundrum of what to do. An irresponsible, drug addicted, or irrational girl (and we don't have any of those around do we?) could just as easily have driven to Phoenix with a forged test and shot with Dogfart or Lightspeed or Royal Vault or any of the other companies there. But now that a big blowup has happened and everybody knows about it...everybody is now on their toes.

I don't know what the answer is except for more frequent testing as we argued about before...it'll have to be done cheaper and in a more timely manner as it is done in 10,000 subsidized clinics around the U.S. for free


Sorry to do this but...........................


Alleged Forged Test Documentation




Quote:



Porn Valley- From [email protected]: Stephanie Hird aka "Megan Jones" and her suitcase pimp Jason Felts have worked for a few Florida based companies and scammed them. They have been known to steal talent off other peoples set and send out their pics to various companies "shopping" them around under different names as their own talent for one. Next they make arrangements to work for a certain price and once they arrive at a shoot they carry on and throw tantrums disrupting the whole shoot telling you that you agreed to more and they arent leaving until they get paid. They have been known to screw around with their "tests" which in this business is a no-no esp with all the hype we had going on not too long ago with the AIDS outbreak.

According to 'Stephanie" she IS a superstar and has worked with the top agencies, but when asked for references from any of these TOP agencies she could not come up with a single one. When the companies were called verifying her working with them, they had aabsolutely no idea who she was. Every agency in Florida has banned them from working and has totally had enough of their crap as they have burned every bridge there is. So now they think they are going to LA to pull their shit with the big dogs??? Wont happen. They are very unreliable and choose to tell you when they are showing up and working on your set.They often pull the switch and bait with their talent if someone isnt available.

They carry their personal issues with them to the sets where the domestic fighting begins on every set. Not one La company is going to allow the other on set while one is performing. Keep your eyes open and if you want a good scene and no drama then i would make sure you find some better talent than them.



DWB 06-15-2009 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 15959484)
Hep C will take you out quicker that HIV. And, its 20 times more virulent.
Personally, I'd choose HIV over Hep C. Anyday. I know people with both... And the HIV'ers are doing fine. The Heppers are holding on for dear life :(
Duke

Back before I knew the dangers of Hep, I would only test my boys for HIV. (Keep in mind that I fly males in from USA and parts of South America to work in Asia, expenses paid, so it's not cheap) So I had some Brazilians show up and within two weeks one of them got deathly ill. Spent a while in the hospital and it turned out he was in an advanced stage of Hep B. They flew him out in an emergency to be treated in his home country.

Then the drama started.

ALL the models he had worked with were then exposed to Hep B. I had a meeting with a doc who said that if you catch Hep B early enough, the vaccination would work against it if they exposed person got the vac. So we had to track down all these girls this guy had worked with over the two weeks, around 20 of them, and explain what happened and why they needed to go to the hospital and get shots, blah, blah, blah. It was a mess. The girls were livid and rightfully so. I paid for all of it, as I felt it was my responsibility to do so, but still, it was a mess. Then word started getting around that I got some girls sick and for a while it made it tough to get new girls. It's all good now but it was nasty for a while.

Now, all boys are tested for EVERYTHING before their plane ticket is even paid for. Then tested again once they arrive and start work. They hate it but that's the deal. The girls get tested for everything as well. I'd rather not go through all of that shit again, having people get sick on my watch. No thanks. :Oh crap If they want to catch something, they can do so on their own time after I'm done with them, but not on my set.

Honestly, everyone needs to test for Hep B & C. These are quiet killers. Hep B has a vaccination, Hep C does not.

mikesouth 06-15-2009 01:18 AM

right on DWB and if you can do that why cant the industry as a whole do it.

DWB 06-15-2009 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by davecummings (Post 15959681)
and make an issue out of the PCR by DNA test not being (as LA Health Dept told us it WAS, that night at VCAs studio), the best available test for talent.

Dave,
The HIV/AIDS specialist here in Thailand that I spoke to back when we were getting our testing in order also told me not to only use the PCR-DNA as the only test. He suggested doing the Elisa as well, so we now do them both.

I would be curious though, why the entire rest of the world does not rely on this method alone for rapid testing, yet the LA Health Department said it's the best method for talent. Not that I dispute what they say, I just wonder what data they have looked at in order to be able to say this. Or is it the opinion of one person there?

While we are on the subject, why do YOU think the industry does not test for Hepatitis B or C, given that Hep is also a killer?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-15-2009 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15959967)
While we are on the subject, why do YOU think the industry does not test for Hepatitis B or C, given that Hep is also a killer?

Good question.

If we as an industry united together and insisted upon comprehensive testing, and all paid into a cooperative system, it would be both practical and affordable. :thumbsup

ADG

STAROTICA 06-15-2009 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15958667)
Back many years ago I caught Jade Marcella working with a bogus AIM test. World Modeling was the agent at the time and neither them or AIM really gave a shit but AIM did say that she had not tested in something like 9 months!!! All the while she had been working in LA with a bogus test and NOBODY, NOT ONE COMPANY OR DIRECTOR SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!

Of course, this was a while ago and I hope LA has since got its act together, but the sound of all this new crap makes me wonder.

Doesn?t make me wonder......most jobs that have some sort of professionalism or aspects of such to them and have a strict policy on all SOP's (standard operating procedures) in case of emergencies such as this happen......this only proves that in an industry who runs around touting the banner of being "professional" usually is NOT. It simply is an oxymoron?.porn in general??correct me if I am wrong but porn was built by shady underworld characters?.mobsters per say?..who by in large initially bankrolled it??now how can you expect ethics from a bunch of people who are already morally bankrupt.


Peoples thought processes boggle my mind occasionally?.this is one of those times. :helpme

STAROTICA 06-15-2009 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15959971)
Good question.

If we as an industry united together and insisted upon comprehensive testing, and all paid into a cooperative system, it would be both practical and affordable. :thumbsup

ADG


Talent Testing Service....the alt to AIM has such a test......


http://www.talenttestingservice.com/tts/tests.asp


you guys really got to start thinking outside the box......

DWB 06-15-2009 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STAROTICA (Post 15959978)
correct me if I am wrong but porn was built by shady underworld characters?.mobsters per say?..who by in large initially bankrolled it??now how can you expect ethics from a bunch of people who are already morally bankrupt.

You are correct.

DWB 06-15-2009 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 15959965)
right on DWB and if you can do that why cant the industry as a whole do it.

And I'm SMALL potatoes. So if I can do it, I know the porn giants can.

STAROTICA 06-15-2009 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15959986)
You are correct.

This is why I always laugh when I see a Noob talk shit about how someones stealing from him...they are shaving my traffic...etc, etc......

I dont have a MASSIVE POST COUNT or started sex or porn dot com but I have been around since 1998....so I pretty much seen it all....maybe several times over......


but people just got to get their act straight and start practicing what they preach......or just be content when you or whoever gets punked....time after time again......:2 cents:

Robocrop 06-15-2009 02:59 AM

So who is it then?

Major (Tom) 06-15-2009 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15959958)
Back before I knew the dangers of Hep, I would only test my boys for HIV. (Keep in mind that I fly males in from USA and parts of South America to work in Asia, expenses paid, so it's not cheap) So I had some Brazilians show up and within two weeks one of them got deathly ill. Spent a while in the hospital and it turned out he was in an advanced stage of Hep B. They flew him out in an emergency to be treated in his home country.

Then the drama started.

ALL the models he had worked with were then exposed to Hep B. I had a meeting with a doc who said that if you catch Hep B early enough, the vaccination would work against it if they exposed person got the vac. So we had to track down all these girls this guy had worked with over the two weeks, around 20 of them, and explain what happened and why they needed to go to the hospital and get shots, blah, blah, blah. It was a mess. The girls were livid and rightfully so. I paid for all of it, as I felt it was my responsibility to do so, but still, it was a mess. Then word started getting around that I got some girls sick and for a while it made it tough to get new girls. It's all good now but it was nasty for a while.

Now, all boys are tested for EVERYTHING before their plane ticket is even paid for. Then tested again once they arrive and start work. They hate it but that's the deal. The girls get tested for everything as well. I'd rather not go through all of that shit again, having people get sick on my watch. No thanks. :Oh crap If they want to catch something, they can do so on their own time after I'm done with them, but not on my set.

Honestly, everyone needs to test for Hep B & C. These are quiet killers. Hep B has a vaccination, Hep C does not.

Totally bro. I commend your diligence. Hep B & C are terrible diseases and easilly transmitted. Much more easy that HIV.
Duke

STAROTICA 06-15-2009 01:42 PM

Okay...weekend is officialy OVER....So now who is the big WINNER of the HIV/AIDS buffett? :helpme

STAROTICA 06-15-2009 09:00 PM

I felt so....so left out of the loop here....I didn?t even get the memo....

And are far as you are all concerned you?re not getting any Christmas cards this year either......fucking unbelievable.


Tell someone to do one thing and do and the completely opposite.....have you children graduated from grade school yet....or are you all over in India in an outsourced call center!


So now its Tuesday and still no names in THIS thread??..So I call BULLSHIT!


Put up or SHUTUP! :winkwink:

2012 06-15-2009 09:23 PM

yeah HIV, great. anyone else ?

davecummings 06-21-2009 03:27 PM

Any updates? Mike?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-21-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by davecummings (Post 15984020)
Any updates? Mike?

This just in...





































Generalisimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KjvoKFb7De...kendupdate.jpg

ADG


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