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uno 06-16-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Karupted Charles (Post 15965650)
Yes it is true it has been brought up before and it blows my mind anyone promoted them after that. Further more he explained how to remove affiliate cookies in the members area forum bitching about how affiliates limit his (posted as a girl though) ability to make money.

Yeah, seriously, fuck them.

Oh, and fiddy.

nation-x 06-16-2009 12:03 PM

Garion made a statement: http://www.somebodythinkofthechildre...ues-statement/

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June 16, 2009 – 11:52 pm

The director of G Media, Garion Hall, has issued a statement about a police raid on his company this week.

Hall said yesterday morning (Monday 15 June, 2009) Victoria Police acted on a warrant to search the premises of the adult web business AbbyWinters.com. The raid was instigated by a tabloid journalist from the Herald Sun. The journalist has written about AbbyWinters.com in the past, trying to encourage authorities to act.

Hall said no charges have been laid by the police and that no hardware was seized. Police were supplied with copies of all information that they requested and they (the police) were polite and amiable.

He appreciates the support of Eros, staff, website members and models, and is hopeful of a successful outcome.

Eros Executive Officer, Fiona Patten, told me that Eros fully supports their long term member and their right to provide non-violent erotica.

Roald 06-16-2009 12:08 PM

well case closed guess?

At least they got some publicity out of it.

Agent 488 06-16-2009 12:08 PM

you can go down the same way.

put aside your little differences and stop being such little bitches.

Agent 488 06-16-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 15965812)
well case closed guess?

At least they got some publicity out of it.

i thought you were on holidays man.

Socks 06-16-2009 12:17 PM

I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail.

Anyone know if she's still involved in the business?

And isn't Heidelberg in Germany?

Roald 06-16-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 15965818)
i thought you were on holidays man.

killing some time as my plain goes tomorrow afternoon ;))

Socks 06-16-2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 15965854)
killing some time as my plain goes tomorrow afternoon ;))

hey Roald man can you hit me up quick with your reviews.freeones.com RSS/XML feed, that other review sites use? My programmer wants to handle that tonight if possible... [email protected] if you don't wanna post it here

Have a good trip!

Roald 06-16-2009 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 15965903)
hey Roald man can you hit me up quick with your reviews.freeones.com RSS/XML feed, that other review sites use? My programmer wants to handle that tonight if possible... [email protected] if you don't wanna post it here

Have a good trip!

You will get an email from one of the tech guys tomorrow morning about it.

Cheers!

Drake 06-16-2009 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 15965852)
I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail.

Anyone know if she's still involved in the business?

And isn't Heidelberg in Germany?

According to wikipedia Abby might just be a pseudonym used by Garion.

LiveDose 06-16-2009 01:15 PM

Very good reminder of how pathetic the people making and enforcing laws are. Imagine the amount of resources wasted on this nonsense...

aniloscash 06-16-2009 01:20 PM

I didnt know australia was so backwards live and learn a new thing everyday

Grapesoda 06-16-2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 15965852)
I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail.

Anyone know if she's still involved in the business?

And isn't Heidelberg in Germany?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

GUNNER 06-16-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks
I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail.

Anyone know if she's still involved in the business?


hopefully you didn't have cybersex.

Abby = Garion

Yngwie 06-16-2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 15964827)
That will teach them for denying us as an affiliate!

Interesting though



are they out of their mind? freeones.com as an affiliate is like finding gold at the end of the rainbow.. I would kill to have you guys as my affiliate.

nation-x 06-16-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 15966653)
are they out of their mind? freeones.com as an affiliate is like finding gold at the end of the rainbow.. I would kill to have you guys as my affiliate.

*slurp* *slurp*

dyna mo 06-16-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 15966653)
are they out of their mind? freeones.com as an affiliate is like finding gold at the end of the rainbow.. I would kill to have you guys as my affiliate.

maybe they did not want to pay the 70% payout freeones requires??

Rock It 06-16-2009 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUNNER (Post 15966622)
hopefully you didn't have cybersex.

Abby = Garion

Another Classic. Remind sof the guy who had the argument with the bot and then came of GFY and said he owned the chick he was talking to not realizing it was a bot spamming him...lol

fris 06-16-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 15964827)
That will teach them for denying us as an affiliate!

Interesting though

they are nazis when it comes to affiliates, if you dont do 30 sales a week or something which you can do, they will cut you off.

A sale is a sale, but I guess they must write the checks by hand

V_RocKs 06-16-2009 05:31 PM

Abby Winters is a pseudonym.

In the members area there is a forum. One of the most active threads tells members that if they joined through a blog, TGP, etc they used an affiliate code. Then it tells them to cancel and rejoin so the girl gets all of the money. This is bullshit because there is no profit sharing with 98% of the girls on the site. Yes there are some that stick around like some FTV girls (allison, danielle,etc) but most of the girls are cash in hand paid a flat fee then told to bug off.

This is not stated to the members. I tried letting the members know this fact and that the advertisers that bring Abby Winters traffic are told one thing (you get rebills) and then given a different set of terms (you get your rebills canceled)... You (the surfer) would not know Abby Winters existed if it weren't for advertisers! So we are indeed giving Abby Winters massive exposure they would never have themselves and then we are getting screwed!

I got flamed for about 2 hours and then the reply was deleted and my account terminated.

Both affiliate and members... I asked why and they never gave me a reason.

A few years later I re-applied as my business and got accepted again. Made dozens of sales and NEVER one single rebill!

V_RocKs 06-16-2009 05:50 PM

Oops... make that 1 rebill for ever 25 signups...

Now look at rebills with other teen niche sponsors:

CCBILL (average) 1:1.5
Island Dollars 1:1.68
Jayman Cash 1:0.58
Lightspeed 1:1.2
Niche Money 1:1.3
Panchodog 1:1.1
Teen Revenue 1:1.7
Teen Dolls 1:3.4

Abby Winters 1:25

And people ask me all the time why I don't promote the site more? Dude, I am making blah blah.. and blah... and how many rebills? ohh... Only a couple... We compare the same traffic sent to other sponsors and I make 3 times as much...

V_RocKs 06-16-2009 05:59 PM

Oops Part II...

I just got my payment from them... I love them now. Watch me post several blog posts tonight!

NinjaSteve 06-16-2009 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15966852)
Abby Winters is a pseudonym.

In the members area there is a forum. One of the most active threads tells members that if they joined through a blog, TGP, etc they used an affiliate code. Then it tells them to cancel and rejoin so the girl gets all of the money.

Whoa, talk about some shady shit!

Sausage 06-16-2009 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15965452)
Is it illegal to produce porn in all of Australia or just a specific states or areas? I've never heard anything about it being illegal before this article.

Back when I was in Queensland it was illegal to shoot hardcore porn. Also illegal to host porn in aus, not like you would since the price is 10x what you pay for os hosting.

Sethseekstruth 06-16-2009 06:23 PM

Denied by someone? check my sig

Yngwie 06-16-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 15966764)
maybe they did not want to pay the 70% payout freeones requires??

in my opinion it would still be worth it in the long term. It's not like freeones is a small fish so they can produce high volumes so 70% is worth it in the long run. I would go into full details on how this would be beneficial to everyone involved, but I'm a little busy right now.

V_RocKs 06-17-2009 02:29 PM

Any sponsor that doesn't know Freeones traffic is heaven sent is a moron... Especially one that is going to tell the surfer to cancel and re-signup anyway.

PersianKitty 06-17-2009 02:46 PM

Gee.. should I feel special...? I've been an affiliate since 2005.

u-Bob 06-17-2009 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mutt (Post 15965531)
remember this is a guy who tells his members to cancel and join again so the affiliates who do send him traffic lose their measly 25% or whatever the revshare is on rebills

:( :(

jimmy-3-way 06-17-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PersianKitty (Post 15970019)
Gee.. should I feel special...? I've been an affiliate since 2005.

You already know you're special.

DaddyHalbucks 06-17-2009 07:17 PM

Do you think they will survive this?

Far-L 06-17-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 15971200)
Do you think they will survive this?

My prediction is they will survive if the girl was not underage and maybe not if she was underage.

Any update on what is happening?

spacedog 06-17-2009 10:09 PM


Cash 06-17-2009 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 15965485)
the news blurb didn't say it was illegal to make porn, only illegal to make porn for profit :)

Yes, porn for charity :1orglaugh
And the cops were satisfied with the content they got ... now they can jerk off for free in their police section :winkwink:

MrLuvr 06-17-2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 15965749)
It might have been longer than 2-3 months ago actually.

I don't think I saw the original thread about him being killed. I came across a load of new stuff about him recently and it talked about suicide rumors in prison.

There's a load of pictures of him and his wife after their release on Flickr or somewhere like that and loads of blog stuff too.

Not dead... his after prison photo stream,

http://picasaweb.google.com/bigimotina

Socks 06-18-2009 12:23 AM

He looks like a nice enough guy... (galitsin)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_JY3wjm0G7CU/Sh...0/IMG_0386.jpg

VicD 06-18-2009 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 15964827)
That will teach them for denying us as an affiliate!

Interesting though

I tried to become an affiliate several times but no luck, maybe better this way...

flashfire 06-18-2009 12:49 AM

if they are shooting under age they deserve to get taken down

TheDA 06-18-2009 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MrLuvr (Post 15971654)
Not dead... his after prison photo stream,

http://picasaweb.google.com/bigimotina

Yes, that was some of the stuff I had seen.

JanuarySeraph 06-18-2009 02:20 AM

That totally fucking blows.

topnotch, standup guy 06-18-2009 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 15965531)
remember this is a guy who tells his members to cancel and join again so the affiliates who do send him traffic lose their measly 25% or whatever the revshare is on rebills

Assuming that's really true, jail's a good place for him.

V_RocKs 06-19-2009 02:52 PM

It is a little thing I like to call GFY magic...

Start a thread. Bash a program. And get results.

Just got an Abby Winters rebill!

I think I am going to spend it on some Korbel!


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