FUCK Ibill!

Sadly it would be a waste of time, im sure we can all think of more subtle ways of putting them out of business without getting webmasters into trouble ?:thumbsup

You are surely not alone by not trusting a company started by ex iBill employees. Just as a matter of curiosity: Where do you think the money iBill defrauded their clients out of went to?

The one place it didn't go was to the webmaster's who earned it. I did hear First Data kept quite a chunk. But its anyone guess :(

Here is an article that anyone considering doing business with ibill should read:

http://www.newyorkdailytimes.com/home.htm?m=ibill

Who is so dumb...

Don't put yourself down man. You're not that dumb.



... you were speaking about yourself in the 3rd person, right?

Perhaps new web masters who do not know what went down a few years ago?

i use to work for that fucked up company, ibill. I've never heard of any of those names listed. i came way after all the bullshit went down. basically segpay was and still is the new ibill. all the crooks from ibill formed their own company and its called segpay. i only worked there 5 months. it was a total joke. i was in sales trying to drum up business, but mostly took calls from pissed off webmasters wanting to know where their money is. i was making really good money for doing nothing so i stuck around for 5 months. very shady people that worked there. jeezus.
i found out exactly what went down. basically all the upper management and sales people kept "paying themselves forward" is how i was told. they would keep all your money up front to put in their own pockets first then they thought they could "pay the webmasters next month" but they kept doing it month after month. sure they had their cars and huge houses. one guy who came back told me he was in sales and made like $25,000 a month for a few months straight and he bought not only himself but his mom a house too! and thats just a sales guy. God only know how much upper management was putting in their pockets.
So basically it all snowballed after a few years of paying themselves first and then its like "oops, we dont have any money left for our actual clients because we all put it in our pockets". Its nothing but total greed and robbery. I cant believe they got away with it actually. Its no different than robbing a bank. You webmasters probably already know this whole story though.

Thanks. This is very interesting.

Hey Cheyenne
Can i ask you in your Avatar are you holding some poor guys balls :helpme:1orglaugh

Wow.

I've seen ibill.net before but I figured someone snapped it then copied it from archive.org as a joke.

Wow. :warning

seems to me last time they showed up at an event, they had security:2 cents:

i can't believe this.... i can't even find a "wtf" pic that suits this...

interesting...

So let's see a run down on these sites and companies running with them... maybe they're reputable Vuiton and Rolex duplicate dealers...

:D

Bump to the first page :Oh crap

i'm just waiting for websitebilling to show up again

Exactly right

Actually that is ClubDom's favorite fetish model, Jean Bardot, holding some guy's poor balls. Speaking of poor balls, this guy got off easy. lol.

Cheyenne

Ouch that makes me cringe, Cute girl :thumbsup

Ok, so they are still in biz. Why don't the ones that they owe money to join together and nail their asses?

I was one of the lucky ones that never had any dealings with them.

how ? do what exactly ?

WOW just wow.

I rock my ibill shirt at the gym

Not good. A lot of people that DONT know about them will get screwed.

Ya know, Cheyenne, I've looked at your avatar over and over and just thought hot chick and did not process what you were doing :1orglaugh

Thats why it good to keep this on the first page, so at least a few newbees will see what a bunch of asshats Iballs is. It would be great if people who post on other boards make a link to this thread, that way we can cover more ground.

Looks like more than a few of the old Iballs staff are still running this new incarnation of online theft :321GFY:321GFY

:food-smil10

Bump Bitch :upsidedow

Back to the top so others can see the snake is back :thumbsup

Kick to the top :thumbsup

Just helping :thumbsup

Thanks for the bump :thumbsup

back to the top yo !!!

Nightly bump :thumbsup

guess whos back guess whos back ibills back

If that makes you cringe, you should see our lateset castration video! It is too extreme for our membership site but you can see the photos on www.clips4sale.com/5751

Exactly what i think happened ! (if all is real)

Greg for president stie !:thumbsup

About as bright as anyone who signs up for Ibill to process for them. Anyone that stupid is not going to be making a lot of money.

Didn't they show up at a Las Vegas or Miami show a few years ago and no oe said diddly squat?

Maybe I'm thinking too far out the box but the thing that really amazes me is the banks and credit card companies who approved them to deal with other peoples money again.

Gonna write them 2 return my money lol

Let us know how that works out for you !

Exactly what I was thinking

My kind of girl!! I was just in Providence last weekend featuring at the Cadillac Ranch.

You were in Providence last weekend?! I would have loved to have shot with you. ClubDom shoots in Providence, Fort Lauderdale and at various locations in upstate NY and New England. Please send me an email if you would like to shoot with us some time. :-)

Cheyenne

LOL.

the problem is that what moneys that were owed to webmasters, the liabilities were to the old iBill.. the new iBill, whether you think of it as segpay or ibill.net don't have the direct liability.

if there was fraud, then the corporate veil can be pierced and officers can be held liable.

you would need to fire up a class action lawsuit by some attorney who would try to uncover the muck.. once he's done that, and the court does find executives guilty, then collecting the judgment is another matter.. and then after some money was squeezed out of former cold ibill execs hands, the lawyer will probably take like 60%.... and the rest is split up among the defendants... and then since you probably claimed the money withheld from ibill as a loss on your corporate taxes, that you will then be taxed on the $5.32 that each plaintiff would receive.

it all just sux


Fight the money black hole!

If a class action lawsuit accomplishes nothing more than to personally impoverish a few iBill executives, well...... that's good enough for me :thumbsup

Go for it !

To do this is alot of work, you have to first collect up the evidence by pulling all the possible plaintiffs (those that lost money). document everything and pitch it to class action attorneys to find one that will take it on contingency.

the better the job that is done in documenting, the easier it will be for them to smell blood and want to take up the case.

after that, its in their hands to go through the process.

i do not have the time for this. there should be plenty of pissed off enough webmasters to take up this fight.


Fight the passing of the baton!

If none of them have stepped up by now I doubt it's going to happen.

You were the last hope.

:(

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