I use both... and both were effected equally...

Ohh... and my free version site doesn't even accept submissions so that cannot be it (post above this one).

All of my ST copies are paid and all of my sites dropped.

I use AutoGallery SQL, my search engine traffic has increased 5x just from today...

Is it just a coincidence that all these ST sites are dropping in ranks?

Or could there be something else in common between all these dropped sites that we aren't thinking of?

All of my smart thumbs copies are paid. One site got the page 6 penalty. The other two did not, but my feeling is that they don't have thumbs directly on the main page. They have big thumb category image that link to sub pages.

Its definitely just smart thumbs. I haven't seen any reports from other scripts. Google probably thinks its duplicate content or something dumb.

So is there any way that someone could contact Google and get this cleared up?

Shit :Oh crap

Only way I know, unless someone has an in...
http://www.google.com/support/webmas...y?answer=35843

Yeah, good luck with that....

Penalties are reversible, you just need to understand why you were penalized and fix it.

Penalty is NOT a banning, huge difference.

I would suggest all people using smart thumbs pull it asap or change the url structure, its the url and script structure. making pages look identical :)

good luck with that... :1orglaugh

It actually wouldn't surprise me at all if Google started penalizing trade scripts at some point. Circle jerking surfers to boost traffic doesn't really seem to fit their philosophy of creating the best content for surfers. I hope it's just a fluke, I'm just saying...

omg:helpme

I think its just the fact that its not page #1 is what they mean.

Do a Google search for -60 penalty.

Guess i'm glad I custom design all my TGPs... and you can't tell what i'm running in the background.

this is interesting. seems to be a variation of the 950 penalty. maybe they just stopped moving the page to the back and to somewhere where the webmaster is likely to find it and fix it... since other pages didn't actually end up as the 950th result.

i have the free version on a lot of domains that we used to just make live until we are ready to use the domains. i am not a tgp guy and don't run tgps.

one interesting thing i see is that some domains have ZERO text and zero outbound links (besides images linking to galleries and the smart thumbs link) and are penalized. so.. that tells me that all the usual "over-optimization" issues as the cause is not whats going on.

i'm not interested enough to dig into this but i can say with authority that tgp sites and link directories are essentially spam sites/link farms. by that i mean simply that you can't really tell me what the difference is between the average auto-generated page of 2000 and the 50 smart thumbs sites you can set up in an afternoon. tgps add the ridiculousness of blind links etc which also don't provide the best user experience. they are both essentially the same from a search engine standpoint and separated only by the quality of hard links linking in.

not clue why this seems to be happening with so many ST sites ... but i can say with absolute certainty that the typical tgp is doomed regardless. if not today... then next month, next year or whenever. they simply aren't the best result for any phrase other than "Keyword Pic's", "Keyword Photos" etc. and that fact will ultimately be reflected in search results. its just a matter of time.

ya this is what i do on my 13 out of 15 tgps and sorts but all those sites are non skim sites and these 2 new sites i wanted to do skim sites so i went with ST

and for the record both my 2 are under 2 mos old and had the number 1 spots for the titles of the sites and neither sites accepted submits and were all just fhgs and galleries i made up and they are both listed on page 6 of google now

It's obviously an illuminati/bilderberg/lizard people conspiracy.

Don't forget 9/11.

unique linking structure ftw

no one is blaming Bush yet?

Sorry, I thought that was implied without saying as his father is a well known lizard person.

Huh? Multiple things in that list are things just about any TGP would not pass on. Did you even read it?

According to Phillip Schneider, we've worked everything out with the lizard people and all is good. (well... except for Phillip's untimely death)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8b5Ea3dgK3c

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hbONIQfQmDU

https://youtube.com/watch?v=srX0lNQ6Kb0

google wasted a bunch of video dump sites last year at the end of the summer, I guess this year ST and a few misc other sites got it

and yes, I still havent gotten my 30k a day back so suck it up

don't fuck with Phillip Schneider - he shot grey aliens in an underground base or whatever.

anyone selling any smart thumbs licences?

he was also shot by an alien... resulting in wounds which oddly enough... looked a lot like an explosives accident resulting in burns to his chest and taking off some fingers... and coincidentally, he was a demolitions expert.

riveting stuff!

huh? it's just some article i found on the fly but everything you said there is covered in the article as what to avoid.

and if i recall.. he shot an alien, in their under ground civilization with a Walther PPK - or the same pistol that James Bond used.

amazing stuff!!

well we may have a lead on who wired up the twin towers.

Well this is going to ripple through the industry...

Gonna hear some big crying next week from everyone if this doesn't revert.

can't say what happened in your case arock - but i ran a link anchor check on most of the sites over at iq that got penalized and they never varied their anchor text - always assumed that's why they were penalzied - though of course i may be wrong.

Of course I read it. And its just another post made by some fucktard telling people the most standard of SEO advice.

There is no meat in that post.

By the way, I didn't lose any serps, I gained some, and have pulled more then a few domains out of penalty, I'm not just talking out of my ass here.

I called this one well over 24 hrs ago and knew the penalty and particulars. And I'm not posting in numerous of these threads on numerous boards to talk shit, I'm just offering experienced advice.

that's a shame ...

whats up team smart script?

no word from the author?