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JimmiDean 06-22-2009 11:43 AM

Congrats John,
I know you guys have been working hard on this one and I have been looking forward to it.:thumbsup

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 15986434)
Yep, I was thinking of exactly along the lines of WordPress's options.. a few standard choices and custom if you'd like.

Awesome, so now onto more important things.

You should move me out to TMM's location, hire me to play with your kitty cat all day long, and drive your lambo, and we'll be good. :thumbsup

TMM_John 06-22-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15986486)
Awesome, so now onto more important things.

You should move me out to TMM's location, hire me to play with your kitty cat all day long, and drive your lambo, and we'll be good. :thumbsup

LOL, that's exactly what we're hiring for! :)

On a serious note we have paid relocation costs in the past, feel free to shoot a resume over to albright/toomuchmedia/com if you might be interested :)

TMM_John 06-22-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmiDean (Post 15986471)
Congrats John,
I know you guys have been working hard on this one and I have been looking forward to it.:thumbsup

Thanks, its finally almost here.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 15986490)
LOL, that's exactly what we're hiring for! :)

On a serious note we have paid relocation costs in the past, feel free to shoot a resume over to albright/toomuchmedia/com if you might be interested :)

Haha, thanks, but I'll pass... As cool as it would be to work with you guys, as I've always had a thing for how awesome NATS is, I don't really work well with others, I'm more of a lone soldier and I'm pushing to get my own biz going, maybe sometime down the road I'll become your competition. ;)

Keep up the good work. :thumbsup

XPays 06-22-2009 12:09 PM

good luck with the new product

abyss_al 06-22-2009 12:19 PM

nice :thumbsup

Juicy D. Links 06-22-2009 12:24 PM

John lmk if I can take a peek at the demo

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running out for a bit

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TMM_John 06-22-2009 04:05 PM

Thanks guys.

fris 06-22-2009 04:16 PM

tubegasm

lazycash 06-22-2009 04:19 PM

Like the script, don't like the pricing.

niche25 06-22-2009 04:26 PM

Congrats on the new software and good luck! :)

Anthony 06-22-2009 04:37 PM

John,

You know I'm interested and this falls right into a project I'm working on. Please put me in your list of paying beta testers. :)

TMM_John 06-22-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 15987485)
Like the script, don't like the pricing.

Because it has a monthly cost or because its too high? (or something else?)

Nicky 06-22-2009 05:28 PM

Any estimate as to when it can be purchased?

V_RocKs 06-22-2009 05:37 PM

Would also be nice to have it be able to rip galleries and unite the videos into a seamless experience... I believe nubiles tube script does this...

So if a gallery has 4 vids in it the nubiles script will show you one pic with the mouse over animation... Then when you go to the videos page it shows all four clips... But if you click #1 it will skip to #2 immediately after playing... and so on... Turns 4 - 0:1:20 videos into 5 minutes 20 seconds.. Something the surfer might actually click on...

Once they see 2 minutes or 1:20 they quickly find another tube site with 20 minutes...

Darkhorse 06-22-2009 05:47 PM

I looked at the demo (I know it's basic demo).

Just a question or two (btw this movie is not loading for me) http://www.dailyvids.com/video.php?video_id=1657

Can I have an image on the movie instead of the blank pre-roll....

Can I put a link in the description of the movie? (to sponsor off course)

Can I put my own player in or am I stuck with the default one or do you have others available?

Can I change the size of the thumbs on the main page and the layout should I not want the current setup on the demo?

I like to tinker with things such as the player page and so forth can I make changes myself or is the player page zen encoded?

The register page is pretty basic can I add or do you plan on adding things to it such as capthcha? it would be nice to be able to add your own fields.

also the layout is messed up (top header) In IE7.....

Thanks:)

fris 06-22-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 15987485)
Like the script, don't like the pricing.

$95 one time fee for the engine, then $15 a month, figure if you want mechbunny tube script its gonna cost you $1500 minimum with just a basic script.

You would have to pay per month $15 for 7 years to make it to $1500

Very reasonable.

lazycash 06-22-2009 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 15987684)
$95 one time fee for the engine, then $15 a month, figure if you want mechbunny tube script its gonna cost you $1500 minimum with just a basic script.

You would have to pay per month $15 for 7 years to make it to $1500

Very reasonable.

Mechbunny isn't a fair comparison, $1500 is by far the high end of the tube script scene. Tmm's is $275 first year and $180/yr after that. There are some sub $300 scripts that appear to do everything initially offered with this one. I've just never liked having to pay a recurring charge for a script. I'd rather pay an upfront amount and get it over with. I think the monthly should be an option for those that may want to start on a shoestring budget and they should have a separate one time fee per domain option.

harvey 06-22-2009 06:22 PM

nice stuff as usual :) I sent you a msg on ICQ :)

Darkhorse 06-22-2009 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 15987724)
Mechbunny isn't a fair comparison, $1500 is by far the high end of the tube script scene. Tmm's is $275 first year and $180/yr after that. There are some sub $300 scripts that appear to do everything initially offered with this one. I've just never liked having to pay a recurring charge for a script. I'd rather pay an upfront amount and get it over with. I think the monthly should be an option for those that may want to start on a shoestring budget and they should have a separate one time fee per domain option.

I tend to agree, the $15 per-month should be an extra option for those that want/require a bit more support then usual.

the alchemist 06-22-2009 06:33 PM

The leasing part is a big turn-off, plus it looks like a very basic script (from the url you posted).

harvey 06-22-2009 06:41 PM

btw, John, besides the link structure, my suggestion would be to work it all out as divs instead of tables, I think the day a tube site uses divs instead of tables it will make a killing since you can do almost anything in terms of layout with exactly the same source code. If not possible, at least it would be a nice idea to give IDs to the tables/rows/cells/whatever to improve manageability, the sample at Dailyvids is nice but not only uses tables, but the styles are like .style1 .style2 .style3 .... .styleN which is the most anti-intuitive thing that can be done.

Just a suggestion, of course. To me, customization and the ability to make changes on the fly are the most important part in a(n already working) script and so far I can see most scripts fail at it. The first one to achieve it will have a competitive advantage over all other scripts IMHO

PS: I love the price structure :)

TMM_John 06-22-2009 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the alchemist (Post 15987759)
The leasing part is a big turn-off, plus it looks like a very basic script (from the url you posted).

What do you feel it is missing?

abshard 06-22-2009 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 15987684)
$95 one time fee for the engine, then $15 a month, figure if you want mechbunny tube script its gonna cost you $1500 minimum with just a basic script.

You would have to pay per month $15 for 7 years to make it to $1500

Very reasonable.

I thought mechbunny was $1500 for a full server license?

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2009 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey (Post 15987776)
btw, John, besides the link structure, my suggestion would be to work it all out as divs instead of tables, I think the day a tube site uses divs instead of tables it will make a killing since you can do almost anything in terms of layout with exactly the same source code. If not possible, at least it would be a nice idea to give IDs to the tables/rows/cells/whatever to improve manageability, the sample at Dailyvids is nice but not only uses tables, but the styles are like .style1 .style2 .style3 .... .styleN which is the most anti-intuitive thing that can be done.

Just a suggestion, of course. To me, customization and the ability to make changes on the fly are the most important part in a(n already working) script and so far I can see most scripts fail at it. The first one to achieve it will have a competitive advantage over all other scripts IMHO

PS: I love the price structure :)

As a designer, you should have already known, the template isn't limited to just what you see... the templates allow you to edit the whole thing, want to use css/divs, use it, want to use tables, use em... you're not restricted.

/me end support for John

GrouchyAdmin 06-22-2009 08:40 PM

How many DB calls per page construct? If it's anywhere near Carma..

Zorgman 06-22-2009 10:15 PM

Welcome to the tube market John. The more choices webmasters have the better. :thumbsup

harvey 06-22-2009 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15988012)
As a designer, you should have already known, the template isn't limited to just what you see... the templates allow you to edit the whole thing, want to use css/divs, use it, want to use tables, use em... you're not restricted.

/me end support for John

maybe. depending on how the code looks and how open it is. However, even then, what I mean is that having that pre-done as opposed to having to rewrite the whole code is a real time saver.

PS: John knows I'm one of his biggest supporters, hence the suggestions :winkwink:
PS2: As a designer, I only need to know how to design, not how to code. In my case, I've my above average share of coding knowledge (at least for a designer) and I've a coder of my own, but 99% of designers don't know how to code and they aren't supposed to either. So, in this business, most clients will want everything: the design and the code, and they'll need 2 different people to do that. So, any script having it all without tables (or at least with ID'ed tables) will save the client time and money, hence the script will be bought by more people :2 cents:

2MuchMark 06-22-2009 11:54 PM

Sweet, John! I just icq'ed you.

spacedog 06-23-2009 12:03 AM

Does admin area include fields for each upload that we can add banner, link, make vid clickable, etc..

What's the installation charge.. Assuming it may need other things to work, can you install those as well?

k0nr4d 06-23-2009 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abshard (Post 15987902)
I thought mechbunny was $1500 for a full server license?

It's not a server license, it's unlimited domain and open sources. You can use it on as many servers as you like as long as you don't resell it

SeanLEE 06-23-2009 01:07 AM

Not much for innovation-

looks archaic-

Stick to affiliate content management.

JamesK 06-23-2009 01:08 AM

I hate recurring payments for stuff like this. Is there any non-recurring buyout price?

Babaganoosh 06-23-2009 01:12 AM

A recurring charge to use a PHP script? Pretty funny. That might fly with NATS but this pricing scheme won't work for a tube script.

Paul Markham 06-23-2009 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 15986330)
Here's my take on it.

Some people might not have the cash flow to startup a tube network with 300$+ licence fees for other scripts.

At 15$ a month, you're pretty much scratching the tube script from your startup fees and can use the money you save to invest into either traffic, promo or whatever. If after a couple of months you're tube isn't generating 15$/month to pay for the script, I think you should look at a new line of work.

Thats my 2 cents. 15$/month is cheap

The cheaper a product is the more it HAS to sell. The more who buy, the more feeding from the same trough and the less profit for all.

A good or bad thing for the business?

Jdoughs 06-23-2009 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanLEE (Post 15988460)
Not much for innovation-

looks archaic-

Stick to affiliate content management.

Have you looked at your own site? Archaic? Damn.

MPGdevil 06-23-2009 05:44 AM

Monthly fee's sucks IMO. Charge whatever the script is worth instead.

Mechbunny's $1500 for unlimited usage is clearly a great alternative if you plan for more than just one tube. Besides you can pay to have it personal customized which is a huge plus.

JMB Soft TubeX - $120 ($80 while still in beta) also a good alternative to a monthly fee if you are new and low on money.

A little comparison.

Mechbunny
First year: $1500
Per year: $0
(unlimited domains/servers)


3 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $360 ($240 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $245 ($320 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0

Tube Studio
First year: $635
Per year: $540


5 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $600 ($400 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $365 ($490 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0

Tube Studio
First year: $995
Per year: $900


10 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $1200 ($800 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $665 ($915 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0

Mechbunny
First year: $1500
Per year: $0

Tube Studio
First year: $1895
Per year: $1800


40 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $4800 ($3200 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $2465 ($3465 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0

Mechbunny
First year: $1500
Per year: $0

Tube Studio
First year: $7295
Per year: $7200


Haven't tried any of the scripts so can't compare features, but unless Tube Studio is way superior to the other scripts I can't see any reason to pay that amount for a lease.

Rumors say Smart Tube Pro is the most advanced tube script on market, so if you are serious about starting in the tube business and focus on a single tube $500 isn't a bad alternative compared to same cost of a 2 years of Tube Studio lease.

The Judge 06-23-2009 05:59 AM

The gentleman in my avatar suggests that you wait until certain domains gain popularity and increase their license fee by how much you estimate they are making, find some excuse like their higher traffic requires addons that cost extra, if they don't pay shut their license down but if they are making money they will pay.

tranza 06-23-2009 06:08 AM

Looks great, congrats

Zorgman 06-23-2009 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 15988720)
A little comparison.

Mechbunny
First year: $1500
Per year: $0
(unlimited domains/servers)


3 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $360 ($240 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $125 ($150 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0


Tube Studio
First year: $635
Per year: $540


5 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $600 ($400 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $300 ($425 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0


Tube Studio
First year: $995
Per year: $900


10 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $1200 ($800 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $600 ($850 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0


Mechbunny
First year: $1500
Per year: $0

Tube Studio
First year: $1895
Per year: $1800


40 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $4800 ($3200 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $2400 (normally for this volume, no extra charge for brand free version)
Per year:$0


Mechbunny
First year: $1500
Per year: $0

Tube Studio
First year: $7295
Per year: $7200

This prices for TEVS are wrong. Prices changed the other day. :thumbsup

TubeSubmitters 06-23-2009 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 15988929)
This prices for TEVS are wrong. Prices changed the other day. :thumbsup

3 Tubes

TubeX
First year: $360 ($240 if bought while in beta)
Per year: $0

TEVS
First year: $125 ($150 if you want link removed)
Per year:$0


So 3 copies of TEVS = $125?

Zorgman 06-23-2009 07:50 AM

Sorry, I thought that said 1 copy. My mistake.

First copy is $125, extra licenses are $60 each. But if over 10 we can do a better deal. :)

So 3 copies = $180

Godsmack 06-23-2009 08:06 AM

congrats on the new script TMM, i'm sure it is good.. it's gonna be interesting to see who will come out on top, our new script is rolling out as well.. exciting times ahead.. :thumbsup

TMM_John 06-23-2009 08:28 AM

Again, with software it comes down to support. Enjoy the support someone selling you a $40 software will give you. Or how much someone will care about you in 2 years after selling you a one time license you can do whatever you wish with.

Monthly fees for softare are like all things in this business, some love it, some hate it.

TMM_John 06-23-2009 08:31 AM

Its also cute how you have some people complaining we can't make enough money from it and it will have a negative effect on us, and you have others complaining we're charging too much compared to similar products. At the very least, this place is always entertaining.

Darkhorse 06-23-2009 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 15989103)
Again, with software it comes down to support.

Can I have some of that support and get these questions answered from previous page if possible please mate, thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhorse (Post 15987682)
I looked at the demo (I know it's basic demo).

Just a question or two (btw this movie is not loading for me) http://www.dailyvids.com/video.php?video_id=1657

Can I have an image on the movie instead of the blank pre-roll....

Can I put a link in the description of the movie? (to sponsor off course)

Can I put my own player in or am I stuck with the default one or do you have others available?

Can I change the size of the thumbs on the main page and the layout should I not want the current setup on the demo?

I like to tinker with things such as the player page and so forth can I make changes myself or is the player page zen encoded?

The register page is pretty basic can I add or do you plan on adding things to it such as capthcha? it would be nice to be able to add your own fields.

also the layout is messed up (top header) In IE7.....

Thanks:)


TMM_John 06-23-2009 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhorse (Post 15989166)
Can I have some of that support and get these questions answered from previous page if possible please mate, thanks.

Sorry, missed it as the thread went over night for me.

That movie is loading fine for me. Are you getting an error or no flash or it won't click play or?

Yes, you could do still previews without the mouse overs.

Yes, you could do full HTML descriptions if you'd like.

The one that is included is very flexible. Its not ours, its something we licensed for the software. It is highly configurable and you may find it can do what you wish. If it doesn't for some reason you could change players easily at the template level.

Yes, you can have any size thumbs you wish.

All of the visuals are in smarty based templates. You have full control over them and can tinker yourself to death.

At the moment I don't believe there is much flexibility to add new fields, but if there isn't it would be very easy to change. I may be wrong and it may be doable at this point and Dan just simply set it up very basic on the testing site.

Thanks for the heads up on IE7. That is all template based and during testing very little attention was payed to the visual aspects (as you can tell from the text fonts/size/alignments, etc.) since it is a test site. This is I'm sure part of that and I'll try to have someone take a look at it.

fujiko 06-23-2009 10:47 AM

pricing sucks :) .. anyways congrats on the upcoming launch

TMM_John 06-23-2009 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fujiko (Post 15989592)
pricing sucks :) .. anyways congrats on the upcoming launch

What do you feel it should be priced at?


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