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Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2009 11:25 AM

Good job John, good to see you guys going into more of a webmaster market and not a program market.

Only 1 suggestion from another programmers point of view... SEO links, SEO links, SEO links!

http://www.dailyvids.com/video.php?video_id=1653

That URL is ugly and not very SE friendly... Most people will want some kind of SE friendly URL, put that feature in ASAP.

Other than that, good job and it looks nice.

FreeHugeMovies 06-22-2009 11:26 AM

FYI A lot of videos are not loading.

TMM_John 06-22-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15986398)
Good job John, good to see you guys going into more of a webmaster market and not a program market.

Only 1 suggestion from another programmers point of view... SEO links, SEO links, SEO links!

http://www.dailyvids.com/video.php?video_id=1653

That URL is ugly and not very SE friendly... Most people will want some kind of SE friendly URL, put that feature in ASAP.

Other than that, good job and it looks nice.

Thanks. If you'd like to shoot me over some thoughts on linking structure I'll make sure they get in pre-launch (albright/toomuchmedia/com). In light of the ST fiasco (not ST's fault in any way IMO and I feel horrible for them), doing some customizable linking structure is probably a good idea also.

TMM_John 06-22-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies (Post 15986402)
FYI A lot of videos are not loading.

Can you post an example link or two here. Thanks.

webair 06-22-2009 11:30 AM

good stuff guys bump for ya

corvette 06-22-2009 11:31 AM

cool release guys :)

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2009 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 15986408)
Thanks. If you'd like to shoot me over some thoughts on linking structure I'll make sure they get in pre-launch (albright/toomuchmedia/com). In light of the ST fiasco (not ST's fault in any way IMO and I feel horrible for them), doing some customizable linking structure is probably a good idea also.

Not much really to say other than making it very customizable like how wordpress does would be good also, and could cutback on being able to tell what script is running based on urls.

Most of my sites use a URI handler I wrote myself that pretty much makes every page look like it's own single .html document in the root folder.

For example:
Index - mysite.com/index.html
Videos - mysite.com/videos.html
Most Viewed - mysite.com/most-viewed.html
Video Page - mysite.com/the-title-of-the-video.html

Makes it cleaner and not a very long url, but also makes search engines feel like it's a more static site and not dynamic, which means more trust.

fris 06-22-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 15986366)
It uses smarty. If you'd like a copy of the engine installed on your server to learn it/make some templates I'd be more than happy to have it installed for you a bit before we launch (which would mean installed this week).

Yep, you can do that.

[email protected] or icq 704-299

TMM_John 06-22-2009 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15986430)
Not much really to say other than making it very customizable like how wordpress does would be good also, and could cutback on being able to tell what script is running based on urls.

Most of my sites use a URI handler I wrote myself that pretty much makes every page look like it's own single .html document in the root folder.

For example:
Index - mysite.com/index.html
Videos - mysite.com/videos.html
Most Viewed - mysite.com/most-viewed.html
Video Page - mysite.com/the-title-of-the-video.html

Makes it cleaner and not a very long url, but also makes search engines feel like it's a more static site and not dynamic, which means more trust.

Yep, I was thinking of exactly along the lines of WordPress's options.. a few standard choices and custom if you'd like.

TMM_John 06-22-2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 15986433)
Yep, you can do that.

[email protected] or icq 704-299

Like I don't have your ICQ :-P

JimmiDean 06-22-2009 11:43 AM

Congrats John,
I know you guys have been working hard on this one and I have been looking forward to it.:thumbsup

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 15986434)
Yep, I was thinking of exactly along the lines of WordPress's options.. a few standard choices and custom if you'd like.

Awesome, so now onto more important things.

You should move me out to TMM's location, hire me to play with your kitty cat all day long, and drive your lambo, and we'll be good. :thumbsup

TMM_John 06-22-2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15986486)
Awesome, so now onto more important things.

You should move me out to TMM's location, hire me to play with your kitty cat all day long, and drive your lambo, and we'll be good. :thumbsup

LOL, that's exactly what we're hiring for! :)

On a serious note we have paid relocation costs in the past, feel free to shoot a resume over to albright/toomuchmedia/com if you might be interested :)

TMM_John 06-22-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmiDean (Post 15986471)
Congrats John,
I know you guys have been working hard on this one and I have been looking forward to it.:thumbsup

Thanks, its finally almost here.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 15986490)
LOL, that's exactly what we're hiring for! :)

On a serious note we have paid relocation costs in the past, feel free to shoot a resume over to albright/toomuchmedia/com if you might be interested :)

Haha, thanks, but I'll pass... As cool as it would be to work with you guys, as I've always had a thing for how awesome NATS is, I don't really work well with others, I'm more of a lone soldier and I'm pushing to get my own biz going, maybe sometime down the road I'll become your competition. ;)

Keep up the good work. :thumbsup

XPays 06-22-2009 12:09 PM

good luck with the new product

abyss_al 06-22-2009 12:19 PM

nice :thumbsup

Juicy D. Links 06-22-2009 12:24 PM

John lmk if I can take a peek at the demo

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running out for a bit

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TMM_John 06-22-2009 04:05 PM

Thanks guys.

fris 06-22-2009 04:16 PM

tubegasm

lazycash 06-22-2009 04:19 PM

Like the script, don't like the pricing.

niche25 06-22-2009 04:26 PM

Congrats on the new software and good luck! :)

Anthony 06-22-2009 04:37 PM

John,

You know I'm interested and this falls right into a project I'm working on. Please put me in your list of paying beta testers. :)

TMM_John 06-22-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 15987485)
Like the script, don't like the pricing.

Because it has a monthly cost or because its too high? (or something else?)

Nicky 06-22-2009 05:28 PM

Any estimate as to when it can be purchased?

V_RocKs 06-22-2009 05:37 PM

Would also be nice to have it be able to rip galleries and unite the videos into a seamless experience... I believe nubiles tube script does this...

So if a gallery has 4 vids in it the nubiles script will show you one pic with the mouse over animation... Then when you go to the videos page it shows all four clips... But if you click #1 it will skip to #2 immediately after playing... and so on... Turns 4 - 0:1:20 videos into 5 minutes 20 seconds.. Something the surfer might actually click on...

Once they see 2 minutes or 1:20 they quickly find another tube site with 20 minutes...

Darkhorse 06-22-2009 05:47 PM

I looked at the demo (I know it's basic demo).

Just a question or two (btw this movie is not loading for me) http://www.dailyvids.com/video.php?video_id=1657

Can I have an image on the movie instead of the blank pre-roll....

Can I put a link in the description of the movie? (to sponsor off course)

Can I put my own player in or am I stuck with the default one or do you have others available?

Can I change the size of the thumbs on the main page and the layout should I not want the current setup on the demo?

I like to tinker with things such as the player page and so forth can I make changes myself or is the player page zen encoded?

The register page is pretty basic can I add or do you plan on adding things to it such as capthcha? it would be nice to be able to add your own fields.

also the layout is messed up (top header) In IE7.....

Thanks:)

fris 06-22-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 15987485)
Like the script, don't like the pricing.

$95 one time fee for the engine, then $15 a month, figure if you want mechbunny tube script its gonna cost you $1500 minimum with just a basic script.

You would have to pay per month $15 for 7 years to make it to $1500

Very reasonable.

lazycash 06-22-2009 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 15987684)
$95 one time fee for the engine, then $15 a month, figure if you want mechbunny tube script its gonna cost you $1500 minimum with just a basic script.

You would have to pay per month $15 for 7 years to make it to $1500

Very reasonable.

Mechbunny isn't a fair comparison, $1500 is by far the high end of the tube script scene. Tmm's is $275 first year and $180/yr after that. There are some sub $300 scripts that appear to do everything initially offered with this one. I've just never liked having to pay a recurring charge for a script. I'd rather pay an upfront amount and get it over with. I think the monthly should be an option for those that may want to start on a shoestring budget and they should have a separate one time fee per domain option.

harvey 06-22-2009 06:22 PM

nice stuff as usual :) I sent you a msg on ICQ :)

Darkhorse 06-22-2009 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 15987724)
Mechbunny isn't a fair comparison, $1500 is by far the high end of the tube script scene. Tmm's is $275 first year and $180/yr after that. There are some sub $300 scripts that appear to do everything initially offered with this one. I've just never liked having to pay a recurring charge for a script. I'd rather pay an upfront amount and get it over with. I think the monthly should be an option for those that may want to start on a shoestring budget and they should have a separate one time fee per domain option.

I tend to agree, the $15 per-month should be an extra option for those that want/require a bit more support then usual.

the alchemist 06-22-2009 06:33 PM

The leasing part is a big turn-off, plus it looks like a very basic script (from the url you posted).

harvey 06-22-2009 06:41 PM

btw, John, besides the link structure, my suggestion would be to work it all out as divs instead of tables, I think the day a tube site uses divs instead of tables it will make a killing since you can do almost anything in terms of layout with exactly the same source code. If not possible, at least it would be a nice idea to give IDs to the tables/rows/cells/whatever to improve manageability, the sample at Dailyvids is nice but not only uses tables, but the styles are like .style1 .style2 .style3 .... .styleN which is the most anti-intuitive thing that can be done.

Just a suggestion, of course. To me, customization and the ability to make changes on the fly are the most important part in a(n already working) script and so far I can see most scripts fail at it. The first one to achieve it will have a competitive advantage over all other scripts IMHO

PS: I love the price structure :)

TMM_John 06-22-2009 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the alchemist (Post 15987759)
The leasing part is a big turn-off, plus it looks like a very basic script (from the url you posted).

What do you feel it is missing?

abshard 06-22-2009 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 15987684)
$95 one time fee for the engine, then $15 a month, figure if you want mechbunny tube script its gonna cost you $1500 minimum with just a basic script.

You would have to pay per month $15 for 7 years to make it to $1500

Very reasonable.

I thought mechbunny was $1500 for a full server license?

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2009 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey (Post 15987776)
btw, John, besides the link structure, my suggestion would be to work it all out as divs instead of tables, I think the day a tube site uses divs instead of tables it will make a killing since you can do almost anything in terms of layout with exactly the same source code. If not possible, at least it would be a nice idea to give IDs to the tables/rows/cells/whatever to improve manageability, the sample at Dailyvids is nice but not only uses tables, but the styles are like .style1 .style2 .style3 .... .styleN which is the most anti-intuitive thing that can be done.

Just a suggestion, of course. To me, customization and the ability to make changes on the fly are the most important part in a(n already working) script and so far I can see most scripts fail at it. The first one to achieve it will have a competitive advantage over all other scripts IMHO

PS: I love the price structure :)

As a designer, you should have already known, the template isn't limited to just what you see... the templates allow you to edit the whole thing, want to use css/divs, use it, want to use tables, use em... you're not restricted.

/me end support for John

GrouchyAdmin 06-22-2009 08:40 PM

How many DB calls per page construct? If it's anywhere near Carma..

Zorgman 06-22-2009 10:15 PM

Welcome to the tube market John. The more choices webmasters have the better. :thumbsup

harvey 06-22-2009 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15988012)
As a designer, you should have already known, the template isn't limited to just what you see... the templates allow you to edit the whole thing, want to use css/divs, use it, want to use tables, use em... you're not restricted.

/me end support for John

maybe. depending on how the code looks and how open it is. However, even then, what I mean is that having that pre-done as opposed to having to rewrite the whole code is a real time saver.

PS: John knows I'm one of his biggest supporters, hence the suggestions :winkwink:
PS2: As a designer, I only need to know how to design, not how to code. In my case, I've my above average share of coding knowledge (at least for a designer) and I've a coder of my own, but 99% of designers don't know how to code and they aren't supposed to either. So, in this business, most clients will want everything: the design and the code, and they'll need 2 different people to do that. So, any script having it all without tables (or at least with ID'ed tables) will save the client time and money, hence the script will be bought by more people :2 cents:

2MuchMark 06-22-2009 11:54 PM

Sweet, John! I just icq'ed you.


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