We had to get some support from FreePBX the other day and they charged $150/hour just to answer a simple question! That question even turned out to be a bug on their end which needed a patch and we were still charged to find & fix an issue in their software! Its a free/opensource product, so their income comes from support, but sometimes people in adult don't know how good we have it compared to mainstream :)

I didn't know this - nice :thumbsup

well, if they're income is 100% through support, I guess it makes sense. A different business model.

And I wouldn't expect custom stuff for nats stuff to come free, and I am not complaining, or else I'd get much less stuff coming my way :winkwink:

Thanx for the answers! I already got the mail from TMM manager and i believe he speak my language, thats will help us to move quickly .. 8)

I'm using 1 payment model - revshare, and 2 billings: ccbill and segpay. Old payments since 2003 will leave in old system...

What I have been wanting to see is a NATS version for those who do not wish to have affiliate programs. This could let us design and control our own join pages easily and cascade via a single join page.

I guess everyone will say there's no need for this because CCBill has a cascade. But CCBill's cascade is more of a join page redirect where the user is confronted with completely different pay page designs.

LOL, yeah, you should wish we did nothing! :)

Vlad will take good care of you, just be careful if you end up drinking around him.

You could of course not use the affiliate side of things (disable signups, etc.). Do you mean at a lower price point tho? NATS has morphed into more than an affiliate or "cascading" software. A lot of people don't realize everything it is capable of doing. Many of those who do, do quite well in this business.

I know a lot of people staying away from NATS due to costs and complexity, I would personally use it if it were more affordable. A 'lite' version would definitely be interesting.

What would you expect to pay?

If you waive the added setup, and support/installation, I would get it for $150/month. But your statement is inaccurate but stating it's only $150/month. It's a lot more with the fees.

I don't know if it's true, more and more people are promoting ccbill programs because nats based programs sometimes offer no privacy and the ownes can't be trusted. Users don't want to sign up to third party (nats) systems to give out all their personal info to people they don't really know or trust. CCBill is a trusted site.. I would never sign up to a nats system, I don't care if the program offers me 500PPS for life.. Plus why pay the monthly costs when ccbill is free.. lol sorry nats just stating the facts.

You are an idiot... k thx. As a program owner I certainly have the right to know who I am letting represent my business. I have been an affiliate for YEARS (2001) and have never had any problems from providing my information to program owners. Not a single instance. All of that bullshit about NATS or CCBILL is just that... bullshit. Most of the time the affiliates that are saying that shit don't have enough traffic to make more than beer money.

Some affiliates always want to blame everyone else for whatever issues they perceive they are having... like conversions or whatever. My experience as an affiliate has been that, 99% of the time, if I am having conversion issues it's because I am not managing my traffic correctly. You can't just expect to send any kind of traffic to a program and instantly make a bazillion dollars. You have to learn how to determine what your traffic is looking for by monitoring the flow... where did your traffic come from... what did they click on... why did they click on it... how can I give them what they are looking for... or how can I market better.