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Tjeezers 06-25-2009 11:42 AM

fleshlight fucked me 3 years ago
they always think they are making revolution
good thing this post is going to be one of them

Deej 06-25-2009 12:53 PM

So they arent paying up on the raven riley pussy molded fleshlights?

DWB 06-25-2009 01:04 PM

Hmmmm. They modeled their limpy dick model after me.

trishauptown 06-25-2009 01:11 PM

Tempting.....lol!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15998758)
Hmmmm. They modeled their limpy dick model after me.


Fleshlight Team 06-25-2009 03:20 PM

Fleshlight
 
We have gone to great lengths to maintain positive relationships with all of our Fleshlight Girls?, our affiliates, and our vendors. Our business continues to grow, and for over two years we have been paying out some of the most generous royalties in the industry, and will continue to do so. However, on May 23rd 2008, when Raven Riley publicly announced her retirement on XBIZ, she abandoned her contractual responsibilities to ILF. As Tom Leach himself stated, ?Raven has communicated that the adult industry is no longer in her future."

In addition to her retirement, Raven proved unreachable for both ourselves, and apparently even for Tom Leach, according to his own published statements in a subsequent XBIZ article on June 27th,
?We then asked her several times between [late March] and May 21 to come into work and learn a new part of the business since she would no longer be taking care of her site,? Leach said. ?To which she would never come in [and] quit talking with us, quit texting us [all while] ordering us to keep sending her money anyways.? See: http://www.xbiz.com/news/95858.

Her refusal to communicate or to work led to further breaches of contract, as she was unavailable for promotion, communication, and appearances.

Mr. Leach?s claims are both desperate and unfounded. We will continue to maintain good business relations with our current Fleshlight Girls?, and are excited to launch several new girls of the highest caliber in late 2009.

Furthermore, in response to any associated threads regarding our affiliate program, our program, FN Cash, is completely transparent, and provides real time and accurate data for all of our affiliates. It is tailored to make promotion of Fleshlight as simple and lucrative as possible, and our millions of dollars in commissions paid each year are a testament to that fact. We encourage anyone with any questions to investigate for themselves at www.FNCash.com, and we thank those affiliates who have supported us and will continue to support us in the future.

peedy 06-25-2009 08:15 PM

Well the only claim I see made is that Fleshlight is doing something "wrong". If this is about Raven Riley, I would venture to say its a fucked up situation.

3xTom 06-25-2009 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleshlight Team (Post 15999411)
We have gone to great lengths to maintain positive relationships with all of our Fleshlight Girls™, our affiliates, and our vendors. Our business continues to grow, and for over two years we have been paying out some of the most generous royalties in the industry, and will continue to do so. However, on May 23rd 2008, when Raven Riley publicly announced her retirement on XBIZ, she abandoned her contractual responsibilities to ILF. As Tom Leach himself stated, “Raven has communicated that the adult industry is no longer in her future."

In addition to her retirement, Raven proved unreachable for both ourselves, and apparently even for Tom Leach, according to his own published statements in a subsequent XBIZ article on June 27th,
“We then asked her several times between [late March] and May 21 to come into work and learn a new part of the business since she would no longer be taking care of her site,” Leach said. “To which she would never come in [and] quit talking with us, quit texting us [all while] ordering us to keep sending her money anyways.” See: http://www.xbiz.com/news/95858.

Her refusal to communicate or to work led to further breaches of contract, as she was unavailable for promotion, communication, and appearances.

Mr. Leach’s claims are both desperate and unfounded. We will continue to maintain good business relations with our current Fleshlight Girls™, and are excited to launch several new girls of the highest caliber in late 2009.

Furthermore, in response to any associated threads regarding our affiliate program, our program, FN Cash, is completely transparent, and provides real time and accurate data for all of our affiliates. It is tailored to make promotion of Fleshlight as simple and lucrative as possible, and our millions of dollars in commissions paid each year are a testament to that fact. We encourage anyone with any questions to investigate for themselves at www.FNCash.com, and we thank those affiliates who have supported us and will continue to support us in the future.



For 1
The model that portrays the TRADEMARK RavenRiley is still working and working hard as of now ... Our disagreement has been settled.. Plain and simple...

and I guess this means that when Adam West stopped being Batman that Warner Brothers just dumped the name didnt they?
Sorry no they didnt..

For 2
But thats ok if you think its right to use someone elses TRADEMARK for your OWN gain..
I didnt bring any of this out period YOU DID..

So BEWARE ALL SOLO GIRL MODELS AND COMPANIES..
this company thinks its ok that if you and your model have problems or that you as a model wish to take a little time off. that they can just run of with YOUR trademark and leave you high and dry..

Good way to do business huh?

That is ALL i have to say about this matter. If the other girls and companies dont care what you do with their TRADEMARK name then good luck with that.

thanks
Tom

The Ghost 06-25-2009 09:28 PM

This is a bridge Fleshlight should be weary of burning.


Appreciate the heads up Tom.

Miguel T 06-25-2009 09:33 PM

Im not really shocked...

pornlaw 06-25-2009 09:34 PM

Can you post (a link to) the contract ? Or excerpts from the contract ? Without the contract there is no way to tell whether they are violating any agreements or infringing any trademarks.

I am not taking sides. I represent a model that has a Fleshlight deal and I have a vested interest in what exactly they are doing or not doing.

FreeHugeMovies 06-25-2009 09:38 PM

Don't worry RealTouch.com will be out soon!

3xTom 06-25-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 16000736)
Can you post (a link to) the contract ? Or excerpts from the contract ? Without the contract there is no way to tell whether they are violating any agreements or infringing any trademarks.

I am not taking sides. I represent a model that has a Fleshlight deal and I have a vested interest in what exactly they are doing or not doing.

Pornlaw I would be happy to discuss it with you in private.

V_RocKs 06-25-2009 09:59 PM

Drama lama is hot in June!

pornlaw 06-25-2009 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3xTom (Post 16000744)
Pornlaw I would be happy to discuss it with you in private.

Hit me up....

michael[at]fattlegal.com

TarPy 06-25-2009 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleshlight Team (Post 15999411)
Raven proved unreachable for both ourselves

Her refusal to communicate or to work led to further breaches of contract, as she was unavailable for promotion, communication, and appearances.

So, um, after you got a mold of her vagina, you needed her for what exactly?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleshlight Team (Post 15999411)
our program, FN Cash, is completely transparent

Great, post the contract agreement you're citing, because your post more or less admits that you aren't paying Tom for Raven Riley pussies.


Also, does this mean that of your molds Kat Young, Brooke Skye, AND Raven Riley aren't being paid? Probably Paris too?

That's half of the molds.

the.drunk 06-25-2009 11:54 PM

all this over pussy

Mr. Billy 06-26-2009 12:04 AM

So wait a minute. I have a company and I hire models to promote my product. It seems logical that I would be hiring a particular person when I hire a model, does it not?

And now your saying that the only thing I hired is the trademark name of the model, and you can send anyone you want?

I'm not being critical here, but I think this is what Tom said he is doing.

How would you feel if you hired a model and a different girl showed up?

Or am I not correct here?

Pornopat 06-26-2009 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleshlight Team (Post 15999411)
Furthermore, in response to any associated threads regarding our affiliate program, our program, FN Cash, is completely transparent, and provides real time and accurate data for all of our affiliates. It is tailored to make promotion of Fleshlight as simple and lucrative as possible, and our millions of dollars in commissions paid each year are a testament to that fact. We encourage anyone with any questions to investigate for themselves at www.FNCash.com, and we thank those affiliates who have supported us and will continue to support us in the future.

I remember a period where fleshlight stats where totally fucked up and the flashlight people were fucking the hell out of their affilates. Some people got kicked out, you went through some namechanges and changed the stats program. Since the errors were kind of admitted I gave you guys another try and found out that I was wrong giving you guys another chance. Tracking still sucked. I wish I could be impressed by the use of fancy words your legal team uses. I can not help but think FNCash is being run by Bozo the Clown (TM) though.

Lia19 06-26-2009 01:44 AM

Only speaking 4 myself :2 cents:

But Fleshlight has always paid me and I am with them about once a month at fan signing or back in Austin. They always take really good care of me.

I have no idea about anybody else. not my concern.
I would just feel bad if I didnt say anything because FL is always amazing to me.


But so our 3xTom and Raven. Luv u both Im out of this.:2 cents:

3xTom 06-26-2009 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Billy (Post 16001023)
So wait a minute. I have a company and I hire models to promote my product. It seems logical that I would be hiring a particular person when I hire a model, does it not?

And now your saying that the only thing I hired is the trademark name of the model, and you can send anyone you want?

I'm not being critical here, but I think this is what Tom said he is doing.

How would you feel if you hired a model and a different girl showed up?

Or am I not correct here?

Nope this is NOT what i am saying
I am saying the website never ended it continue and continued to update as well.

I never told my members she left 99% of the internet never knew she was gone longer than a week..

We FULFILLED her/OUR obligations to fleshlight in 2008 completely.
last time i looked this is june of 09 has ANYONE at all from fleshlight called THIRD PENTACLE once just once to request raven riley to show up somewhere?
NO THEY HAVENT..
and if they do we CAN fulfill that SIMPLY BY MAKING A PHONE CALL TO ME..NOT RAVEN..
They have NEVER called raven before why would they do it now?
and with the same girl... imagine that...

so that is a complete lie on their part again....
We have always been available for them to request.. All they had to do was call , email , something? but nothing from them...

Oh yeah 4 months AFTER the big announcement they stated before,
After calling emailing basically begging to get paid they send a check that was,
CONVENIENTLY NOT SIGNED...

During that time and even after that time they continued to try to get ahold of raven
Not me or third pentacle, to send her a check for the royalties something they have never done but i guess decided that since their contract is with third pentacle they should send that money directly to model without even trying to reach the company...

Now that Raven and My little issue is solved they are now deciding to not pay at all...

Hum...Sounds to me like they NEVER intended to pay

By the way, all you fleshlight girls out there
have you EVER seen a report of your fleshlight sells?
just once? or do you just take a check they send you and say oh ok.. without EVER seeing a print out log in to see stats of anykind at all?

I know in the year or so that they were paying us we begged to see some kind of stats
of the sells and there was always some excuses as to why they couldn't ever show us that info.


Tom

pornlaw 06-26-2009 07:57 AM

3xTom --- still waiting on the email....

3xTom 06-26-2009 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 16002006)
3xTom --- still waiting on the email....

Just got going this morning,
Email sent

pornlaw 06-26-2009 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3xTom (Post 16002035)
Just got going this morning,
Email sent

Response sent...

3xTom 06-26-2009 10:58 AM

Thanks Michael Hope I helped in some way or another.


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