Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 16005560)

I was going to add a second processor, and since ccbill can cascade to segpay I actually thought about going with them. I was send the standard reply, asking for more info etc by one the sales people over there and asked a simple question which I will quote here...

"I'm still on the fence about allowing you to process for me. What is your affiliation with the defunct Ibill? They stoled over 12k from me when they went down not including rebills."

Since that question I have not heard another word from Segpay. Take it as you will.


For fun, google "segpay ibill"

Originally Posted by bluemoney (Post 16005780)

Gonna be a tuff sell

Originally Posted by iBill (Post 16004570)

As you all know by now were back.

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 16005836)

Notice how this Jonas guy ignores all the prior posts and goes straight to the pitch ?
First you have to sign up with Ibill then in August you will get the offer! Exactly the same bait and switch offer the original owners made, exactly. Can anyone say daja vue :321GFY

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 16006216)

If I were a mod I'd be tempted to change your nick to "iFAIL".

Originally Posted by StarkReality (Post 16006554)

I got burned as an affiliate, and no matter what you come up with, there is one thing I know for sure: It was my most expensive lesson ever and I won't risk another one.

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16006249)

Originally Posted by iBill (Post 16004570)

As you all know by now were back. I first want to say I am so sorry for everything that has happened to all the merchants who we worked with from 97 to 01 before iBill was sold to those crooks. No need to worry about them, they got what they deserved by the SEC (Securities Exchange Commission).

I was with iBill and some of you might remember me from all the promotions I had, as I was the Director of Business Development. I worked with a ton of you all. It was my Job to build iBill to what it was. I was with the company from 97 to 01 and left when it was sold. 



NOTE: At the time of the sale, every dollar was accounted for by an independent auditing company as part of the sale.




Why did we start iBill back up, and not go with a new name?

Going with a new name was to easy, no one would ever know and we would not have to do damage control, but the easy way out was not the answer. We have been through all kinds of hell getting this name from the old people, and once we got it, the damage control started.



Remember, iBill is the name, iBill did not steal you funds, the old owners did. I spent 5 years building the company into what it once was and to see it fall the way it did was heart breaking to me. That is why I wanted to restated iBill with a new vision and a new staff. 



Even though we don?t have the funds to cover the notes that the old iBill owners issued, we want to do what we can to make good in this deal.


Here is what we are offering to anyone who was with iBill in the past to try to earn your business back.




1. Send us a copy of your worthless promissory note and we will exchange it for stock in iBill at 1.00 per share. This is just our way of trying to make something out of nothing. We will be sending out the PPM on Sept 1, 09 as well as the certificates. Why not, it is free?

2. We are going to offer a 5% per transaction fee with a 5% 6 month reserve
 for a period of 6 months.

3. No VISA fees, we pay for the filings.






If you have any questions or comments about this offer please post here or you can email me directly at [email protected]. 



PS please no more emails saying ?where is my fucking money? as I will not respond to those anymore as I feel I made myself clear here. I will though welcome and answer any other questions.



Thank you


Jonas

iBIll.net

Originally Posted by Mr.Right (Post 16007539)

fool me once - shame on me,
fool me twice - shame on...

you can't get fooled again!

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex (Post 16005629)

if you were owed money by old Ibill, then new Ibill still owes you that money. it doesn't matter who the owners are, it's the company that owes you... and it sounds like they now have funds.. so get a lawyer and sue them for funds owed DESPITE the owners of the company. Ibill is Ibill, same indusrty, same responsibilities.

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 16011172)

where is my money ibill?

Originally Posted by Karupted Charles (Post 16011271)

Maybe this is fake maybe it isnt but i bet it is to distract people from bringing up all the ties ibill staff has to 2 prominent adult billers pushing into adult recently.

Originally Posted by Karupted Charles (Post 16011271)

Be very careful with anyone but CCbill or Epoch as most of the new ones pushing here like commerce gate are all ibill staff.

Originally Posted by Karupted Charles (Post 16011271)

Maybe this is fake maybe it isnt but i bet it is to distract people from bringing up all the ties ibill staff has to 2 prominent adult billers pushing into adult recently. Be very careful with anyone but CCbill or Epoch as most of the new ones pushing here like commerce gate are all ibill staff.

Originally Posted by notime (Post 16011536)

I played golf with ccbill, epoch & commerce gate in Barcelona, had lunches & dinners with these guys and I visited the commerce gate offices after knowing these people since 1998 because they billed my Dutch paysites with premium phonelines back then. I don't see the commerce gate connection with Ibill here Charles and nor do I see Commerce Gate as a new guy in the market.

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 16011734)

Hmmm...
is there a reliable online source that lists all the billing companies that were started by (or are currently run by) former iBill people?

Originally Posted by BradM (Post 16011753)

Cool story bro

Originally Posted by Karupted Charles (Post 16011271)

Maybe this is fake