You store the energy it produces... Are you really that stupid?

And it's the cheapest because industries aren't looking for a better solution.



I swear the right get stupider ever day..

You are really dumb, aren't you?
There is only one alternative energy that is viable, it is called Nuclear energy, but your kind of tree hugging idiot won't have it.
Do you remember the ethanol bullshit? Invented to give subsidies to farmers and keep them in business. If you have one sense of fairness or logic in you, stop and think of how much you've heard your tree hugging retard talk to you about ethanol????

Oh, and there is no self respecting engineed that will stand and say with a straight face that you can store electricity, it is not viable, unless you want to power a couple of battery operated toys :321GFY

fucktard, you cannot store energy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In any viable and efficient manner.

Hmm... I wonder how many jobs will be created by increased investment in domestic energy production. This bill is way more about national security and weening the US off of foreign oil than climate change. If that costs more than I am willing to pay the price. The US needs to lead the field in developing new renewable energy technology. Oil is NOT an unlimited commodity... as a country, we consume more than 25% of the worlds energy. That just isn't sustainable... I think that the bill that is produced in the Senate won't look like the House bill. There are alot of things in it that will be changed... but I think it will pass because it is something we have to do. I also think cap and trade is the right approach because it encourages companies to produce cleaner energy products and creates an investment economy to provide the funds to do so. The key thing that I think that the opposition is ignoring is that just as many companies GAIN from this legislation as lose and even alot of the very companies it is purported to damage support the legislation.

http://www.reuters.com/article/press...09+PRN20090519
http://www.us-cap.org/blueprint/overview.asp
These are major US corporations that are backing this bill because they see the necessity and the economic potential in doing so.

Wow, conservatives and republicans bitching and moaning need to pace themselves or this is going to be a very long four years.
http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_c...part_image.jpg

It probably would have squeaked by anyways. The scum in Washington do not care about what Americans think and the masses have become numb to all the bull crap going on. Look at the junk that gets passed and then we go and reelect the same tools to continue fucking things up.

300 pages added the morning of the vote? There is no way in hell those fuckers read the whole bill.

Does that mean you are going to spout a bunch of left wing talking points cut and pasted from the Huffiington Post like you usually do? We will all certainly miss that. :upsidedow

Nuclear Energy... hahaha, 1 billion per station and the waste... billions, and damages.. yeah real fucking smart move.




Capt stupid #2.... a man that doesn't have a clue, doesn't invest in alt technology, doesn't research energy technology, has ZERO idea of what's really going on..... but yet tosses out clueless information.


The company doing this has the patent on it, and has been selling it all over the world, and sitting, waiting... for the right president to get elected. Glad we invested years ago.

I think it's going to be an amusing 4 years actually. Why get emotional about it...

We don't have to do it and we won't do it. Global warming is a Hoax, since 2001 the earth has cooled and is continues to cool. Finally scientist are waking up and realising this is junk science. This is a UN grab, this has nothing to do with the right or the left.

This is all about destroying the US, if your to stupid as to not see this. I will be glad to see your kids as poppers.

I have never cut and pasted anything from Huffington post... so you can think what you want.

Obama knew it was based on questionable data and rammed it through anyways.

"CNET reports that less than two weeks before the EPA formally submitted its pro-carbon dioxide regulation recommendation to the White House, an EPA center director quashed a 98-page report that warned against making hasty 'decisions based on a scientific hypothesis that does not appear to explain most of the available data.'
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10274412-38.html

Here is the 98 page report in pdf format
http://cei.org/cei_files/fm/active/0/DOC062509-004.pdf

You know, you should really study a bit. I understand that here with all the liberal retards, you are like a macho. But in the real world, you are nothing but a donkey who doesn't have a clue.
Wait until your black knight in its shining armor comes and tax your little porn sites and makes it illegal as well. Let's see how you feel your dumb piece of fuck :321GFY

That's rught, you're too fucking busy stroking to Barry's hairless chest :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

While you continue to keep running your mouth... why don't you show us you actually know what you are talking about and show me some positively conservative legislation that conservatives have passed that you supported in the last 8 years (6 of which they controlled the congress and presidency).

I didn't vote for Obama and I'm not liberal... You clearly have no ammo to fight with and can only post, left, hate, right, bullshit with zero fact to support your ranting.


So you are saying, I would feel like Bush was president again?

This isn't about Global Warming....

It's about moving us into the Energy Technology fields. <-- keep your eye on the ball.

GW is simply a tool "we can all use" to make the technologies we produce have one more leg for being accepted into Countries that "do think" GW is real.

IE: Money for us...

I posted this on another board yesterday.

As suspected, you are a good cut and paster.....

none of the representatives have had a chance to read the full bill before voting... Always a good sign...


Btw, do people still believe that there's no agenda behind this global warming/climate change/carbon dioxide hysteria ? Just the common good ? lol

I'm still waiting on your answer, smart guy. Do you actually know anything or just spout at the mouth like a typical NASCAR fan?

Six weeks to review the bill? I'm confused. Early Friday morning they added hundreds of additional pages. Are you saying everyone in Congress had access to those final several hundred pages for six weeks prior to them being added?

You read the bill?

You mean that you actually believe that crap? The entirety of bills and changes go through committee before they are presented to the floor for votes and the text is available to all members. Whenever you hear anyone saying that they didn't have a chance to read the bills they are lying (on either side).

Actually I do not follow Nascar and I am confused as to what answer you are seeking from me?

Yes... because they just don't get added... they have to be voted on in committee.

only the first 200 pages I believe... This guy just read from news wires and we know they don't like to bother their readers with too much details...

What would the purpose be of letting several hundred pages of a very important Bill sit in committee for six weeks and not be voted into the final Bill until the very last minute? They had six weeks to vote those pages in, why at 3 a.m. on the morning of the final vote?

That's bullshit... you don't know what you are talking about.

completely made up

Dude, download Livestation and add any channel you want, it's BAD ASS (and free)!!! Al Jeezera has turned into an incredible news station, hard to believe I know but they have evolved into something nice.

Thailand is good once you learn how to deal with the Thais and wiggle around their system. Other than visa issues, you can pretty much be left alone with no hassle here.

When they say that 300 pages were added they are lying. The real facts are that the bill was edited for clarity and any changes that were recommended during the committee process. You can track all of the changes to the bill from it's original form at http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h2454/show

Yes... I read the entire bill and it was boring.

i also don't get the gist of the thread topic-

mj died thursday distracting all americans citizens causing their house representatives to vote yes on the bill friday?

Just because they voted on them doesn't mean they have been read. There are congressmen admitting on TV that they haven't read these bills they are voting for. They don't care what anyone thinks.

I don't think you even have a clue about the process that a bill goes through before vote. There are very specific rules that have to be followed that have been established in the Congress over 200+ years. They can't just introduce a bill for vote without following those rules. Why don't you educate yourself before you continue: http://thomas.loc.gov/home/lawsmade.toc.html

You are correct. If they said they didn't read the bill then they are admitting that they didn't do their jobs. They have entire staffs including lawyers who are supposed to provide them with a summary of what the bill contains at the very least. If they didn't read the bill it's because they are purely not doing their jobs and spending too much time doing TV interviews and attending fundraisers.

Well i'm glad the rules are always followed... uhhh..

(PATRIOT ACT) Rep. Bobby Scott (Committee on the Judiciary member) said, “I think it is appropriate to comment on the process by which the bill is coming to us. This is not the bill that was reported and deliberated on in the Committee on the Judiciary. It came to us late on the floor. No one has really had an opportunity to look at the bill to see what is in it since we have been out of our offices.” Rep. John Conyers, the ranking member of the Judiciary Committee, declared, “we are now debating at this hour of night, with only two copies of the bill that we are being asked to vote on available to Members on this side of the aisle.”


Btw, you first claimed that the bill in it's entirety was available to congress 6 weeks prior to the vote... and you claim to know what you are talking about? lol You are delusional.. commitee isn't congress :2 cents:

assumptions are not facts :2 cents:

The patriot act is not a good comparison because it was passed before the transparency sites were created (probably as a reaction to the patriot act). Now you can track all changes to a bill from it's introduction through passage. You can look at all of the changes yourself (as I said). I know it was available because I READ IT.

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h2454/text