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Due 07-10-2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16049587)
Good thinking, hope everyone else is as well. No point in promoting a program and not getting paid:2 cents:

Hope you get it all solved and Ben manages to turn the boat around, good luck!

JFK 07-10-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16049640)
sigh....

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh takes all kinds:winkwink:

MaDalton 07-11-2009 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16052001)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh takes all kinds:winkwink:

bump for you, i might have to come up with something like that too soon. we will see

Lykos 07-11-2009 06:07 AM

This sux big time,where is Ben to answer now?

SZNY 07-11-2009 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16047777)
As did everyone who is now out a great deal of money:2 cents:

Hope Ben will solve this so you and the others get your money

JFK 07-11-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16052918)
bump for you, i might have to come up with something like that too soon. we will see

Sorry to hear, this is not something that I take lightly, or prefer to do:2 cents:

bbm 07-12-2009 03:07 AM

looks good

Pleasurepays 07-12-2009 05:26 AM

i've never understood why people kiss this idiots ass. just shows what kind of people this industry is full of. there are few people in this biz that are more shallow, insincere, fake or retarded. (his brother being one of those who is actually more retarded than he is)

:disgust

JFK 07-12-2009 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lykos (Post 16052995)
This sux big time,where is Ben to answer now?

The silence is deafening:2 cents:

JFK 07-12-2009 06:10 AM

just a bump

JFK 07-12-2009 06:11 AM

Fitty outstanding invoices for $4950, PAY UP BEN and METRO MONEY !!!!!!!

MaDalton 07-12-2009 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16054583)
Sorry to hear, this is not something that I take lightly, or prefer to do:2 cents:

me neither. it sucks getting ignored when asking for a legitimate payment though and after asking 5 times without any answer i have not much sympathy anymore. so i hope you get your money and then my "client" will be next one on here

JFK 07-12-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SZNY (Post 16053083)
Hope Ben will solve this so you and the others get your money

well, Hope springs eternal:winkwink:

Supz 07-12-2009 12:30 PM

This thread has titanic level failure to it.

The best part is all of the post bots say "nice sites"

JFK 07-12-2009 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Supz (Post 16055972)
This thread has titanic level failure to it.

The best part is all of the post bots say "nice sites"

I find that quite amusing:winkwink:

WiredGuy 07-12-2009 02:29 PM

Wow. This is something I'd never have thought Ben would do. Especially to JFK or Tibor. Wow.
WG

MaDalton 07-12-2009 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16056167)
I find that quite amusing:winkwink:

why, because they are not nice at all? :winkwink:

JFK 07-12-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 16056187)
Wow. This is something I'd never have thought Ben would do. Especially to JFK or Tibor. Wow.
WG

Belive it Charles:2 cents: The invoice has been outstanding since mid feb, despite umpteen promies it still has not been paid.

The Adult Broker 07-12-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16042856)
The fine outstanding gentleman on the right is Ben Jelloun, aka Ben from Holland. The pic in the avatar just does'nt do him justice, so I thought I help along:thumbsup
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...056/z01346.jpg

the fine outstanding gentleman I am sure has launched an outstanding program that can deliver everything outstanding. Right Ben?

The Adult Broker 07-12-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 16056187)
Wow. This is something I'd never have thought Ben would do. Especially to JFK or Tibor. Wow.
WG

and.......?

Warren 07-12-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 16056492)
and.......?


And what? what's you're point? Ben, you really need to come in and sort this out asap.

JFK 07-12-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16055433)
me neither. it sucks getting ignored when asking for a legitimate payment though and after asking 5 times without any answer i have not much sympathy anymore. so i hope you get your money and then my "client" will be next one on here

Do your clients post on here ?

MaDalton 07-13-2009 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 16056484)
the fine outstanding gentleman I am sure has launched an outstanding program that can deliver everything outstanding. Right Ben?

if my sarcasm detector works right we can add one more to the list...



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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16057376)
Do your clients post on here ?

well, at least 2 or 3 who work for them. another well known, old, standup porn company, you know? :upsidedow

MaDalton 07-13-2009 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16057376)
Do your clients post on here ?

for some mysterious reason the money just appeared on my bank account so my drama is cancelled before i even had started it.

i know that does not help you but miracles happen...

Machete_ 07-13-2009 06:17 AM

What kind of person cheats JFK?

JFK 07-13-2009 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16057850)
for some mysterious reason the money just appeared on my bank account so my drama is cancelled before i even had started it.

i know that does not help you but miracles happen...

CONGRATS:thumbsup:thumbsup

WiredGuy 07-13-2009 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16057850)
for some mysterious reason the money just appeared on my bank account so my drama is cancelled before i even had started it.

i know that does not help you but miracles happen...

Are you serious?
WG

MaDalton 07-13-2009 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 16057969)
Are you serious?
WG

absolutely - a wire for $3000 just came in this morning. i was waiting for it since March 26th and had politely asked several times for payment

things like that happen but i can deal with it as long as people keep communicating and admit their problems. I have one client who owes me like $1.5k who just lost his house - i know that i will not see the money soon. but i know that he will pay as soon as he can afford it. but it's the ignoring part that drives me mad.

Tjun 07-13-2009 07:23 AM

Yo Ben, nice looking sites man. Sorry to read about the mess. Hope you manage to settle with the people that you owe something to.

BEN FROM HOLLAND 07-13-2009 07:42 AM

Very interesting.
I been around for 11 years with a create reputation and never fucked anyone in my life and i have no plans to start doing so. Even JFK could agree on that.
So please don't judge if you don't know me personally.
This is business nothing personnel and everyone is having a hard time.

JFK
I have supported you for so many years and never missed a payment. Your last invoice will be paid as soon as i can.
Funny we only popular when we are dishing out CASH. Business is about supporting each other in good time and hard time but unfortunately sponsors like us we only count as numbers.

JFK 07-13-2009 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BEN FROM HOLLAND (Post 16058097)
Very interesting.
I been around for 11 years with a create reputation and never fucked anyone in my life and i have no plans to start doing so. Even JFK could agree on that.
So please don't judge if you don't know me personally.
This is business nothing personnel and everyone is having a hard time.

JFK
I have supported you for so many years and never missed a payment. Your last invoice will be paid as soon as i can.
Funny we only popular when we are dishing out CASH. Business is about supporting each other in good time and hard time but unfortunately sponsors like us we only count as numbers.

Dear Ben, YES, you have supported me in the past, I appreciate that, THANK YOU and that was the reason I had let the invoice lapse as far as it did at the time !

What we are talking about here is the outstanding invoice which you have promised to pay numerous times and failed to do so every time!

I have Bills to pay just like everyone else, your failiure to follow tru on your last promise to pay, resulted in me having to rob Peter to pay Paul as I sent a payment to someone else based on your assurances that you pay me.

But, that is neighter here nor there, it is water under the bridge. What you are doing here is making another promise, after ignoring me for a couple of months, to pay me when you can.

I am sorry that is NOT good enough at this point. If I went to the bank and told them I will pay you soon as I can, they would laugh me out of the place.

Ben, with all due respect, I need payment NOW, not more empty promises.

BEN FROM HOLLAND 07-13-2009 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16058387)
Dear Ben, YES, you have supported me in the past, I appreciate that, THANK YOU and that was the reason I had let the invoice lapse as far as it did at the time !

What we are talking about here is the outstanding invoice which you have promised to pay numerous times and failed to do so every time!

I have Bills to pay just like everyone else, your failiure to follow tru on your last promise to pay, resulted in me having to rob Peter to pay Paul as I sent a payment to someone else based on your assurances that you pay me.

But, that is neighter here nor there, it is water under the bridge. What you are doing here is making another promise, after ignoring me for a couple of months, to pay me when you can.

I am sorry that is NOT good enough at this point. If I went to the bank and told them I will pay you soon as I can, they would laugh me out of the place.

Ben, with all due respect, I need payment NOW, not more empty promises.

The bank does not charge me to put a logo on my checks. This is NOT empty promises I'm working on it JFK. Keep you updated.

BEN FROM HOLLAND 07-13-2009 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjun (Post 16058037)
Yo Ben, nice looking sites man. Sorry to read about the mess. Hope you manage to settle with the people that you owe something to.

Good to hear from Tjun.
Working hard on the product to clear what's outstanding. This should happen ASAP.

Pleasurepays 07-13-2009 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16058387)
Dear Ben, YES, you have supported me in the past, I appreciate that, THANK YOU and that was the reason I had let the invoice lapse as far as it did at the time !

What we are talking about here is the outstanding invoice which you have promised to pay numerous times and failed to do so every time!

I have Bills to pay just like everyone else, your failiure to follow tru on your last promise to pay, resulted in me having to rob Peter to pay Paul as I sent a payment to someone else based on your assurances that you pay me.

But, that is neighter here nor there, it is water under the bridge. What you are doing here is making another promise, after ignoring me for a couple of months, to pay me when you can.

I am sorry that is NOT good enough at this point. If I went to the bank and told them I will pay you soon as I can, they would laugh me out of the place.

Ben, with all due respect, I need payment NOW, not more empty promises.

Years ago, i had agreed to work with Claudia. they were going to send a bunch of computers since they ran linux software on all their chat computers and it was easier for them to just set them up and ship them.

Anyway... long story short, i had built a new studio... putting a couple hundred thousand dollars into it, relocating staff to a new city etc etc etc and had massive overhead... and had a deal with Claudia to dedicate it to her. it was very clear that i had some major expenses and had timed everything to start working with her on a specific date which we all agreed to time and time again.

That day came and went... still waiting on computers. i would call and ask Ben where they were. "oh,, they are going out first thing in the morning". this went on for like a month. literally a month. Me begging them all every couple of days and telling them that it was costing me like $50,000 in that month to pay all over head with no one working.

Still i would call him and he took it a step further to telling me they had been sent for sure, telling me he would icq the tracking numbers etc.... THAT fucking continued for a few weeks or more. I mean literally the guy would say they had ALREADY been sent and then come up with an excuse two days later and then say AGAIN they had ALREADY been sent again... come up with an excuse etc etc ... it went on again for a month like that. So imagine... now, i'm out close to 100k when i could have put the girls live elsewhere.

REMEMBER Ben? Do you remember spamming your ICQ list and you asking me to vote for you on ratethewebmaster.com or whatever the fuck that netpond abortion was and me telling you that you were undoubtedly one of the biggest fucking idiots and unreliable and disingenuous people in this biz? Do you remember your shock and surprise? then i refresh your memory about who i am and suddenly out comes 100 excuses as to why nothing is your fault?

You are full of shit. You're an used car salesman who does little more than just tell people what they want to hear and you take ZERO responsibility for anything that comes out of your fucking mouth.

Your irresponsibility and outright lies cost me a shitload of money.

JFK story sounds quite familiar to me.

Don't get me started on what a total fucking idiot your brother is.

BEN FROM HOLLAND 07-13-2009 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 16056484)
the fine outstanding gentleman I am sure has launched an outstanding program that can deliver everything outstanding. Right Ben?

Lori you know me very well. I will not stop until everything is cleared.

commonsense 07-13-2009 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BEN FROM HOLLAND (Post 16058097)
Very interesting.
I been around for 11 years with a create reputation and never fucked anyone in my life and i have no plans to start doing so. Even JFK could agree on that.
So please don't judge if you don't know me personally.
This is business nothing personnel and everyone is having a hard time.

JFK
I have supported you for so many years and never missed a payment. Your last invoice will be paid as soon as i can.
Funny we only popular when we are dishing out CASH. Business is about supporting each other in good time and hard time but unfortunately sponsors like us we only count as numbers.


No shit. Money makes the world go 'round.


It sounds like your company over-extended in advertising, trying to make a big splash. Then found there wasn't business to support your product.

BEN FROM HOLLAND 07-13-2009 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16057898)
What kind of person cheats JFK?

Its called bad economy.

BEN FROM HOLLAND 07-13-2009 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Due (Post 16051695)
Hope you get it all solved and Ben manages to turn the boat around, good luck!

Working hard as i can to have all the products online and as always i will have the boat turn around.

commonsense 07-13-2009 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16058526)
Years ago, i had agreed to work with Claudia. they were going to send a bunch of computers since they ran linux software on all their chat computers and it was easier for them to just set them up and ship them.

Anyway... long story short, i had built a new studio... putting a couple hundred thousand dollars into it, relocating staff to a new city etc etc etc and had massive overhead... and had a deal with Claudia to dedicate it to her. it was very clear that i had some major expenses and had timed everything to start working with her on a specific date which we all agreed to time and time again.

That day came and went... still waiting on computers. i would call and ask Ben where they were. "oh,, they are going out first thing in the morning". this went on for like a month. literally a month. Me begging them all every couple of days and telling them that it was costing me like $50,000 in that month to pay all over head with no one working.

Still i would call him and he took it a step further to telling me they had been sent for sure, telling me he would icq the tracking numbers etc.... THAT fucking continued for a few weeks or more. I mean literally the guy would say they had ALREADY been sent and then come up with an excuse two days later and then say AGAIN they had ALREADY been sent again... come up with an excuse etc etc ... it went on again for a month like that. So imagine... now, i'm out close to 100k when i could have put the girls live elsewhere.

REMEMBER Ben? Do you remember spamming your ICQ list and you asking me to vote for you on ratethewebmaster.com or whatever the fuck that netpond abortion was and me telling you that you were undoubtedly one of the biggest fucking idiots and unreliable and disingenuous people in this biz? Do you remember your shock and surprise? then i refresh your memory about who i am and suddenly out comes 100 excuses as to why nothing is your fault?

You are full of shit. You're an used car salesman who does little more than just tell people what they want to hear and you take ZERO responsibility for anything that comes out of your fucking mouth.

Your irresponsibility and outright lies cost me a shitload of money.

JFK story sounds quite familiar to me.

Don't get me started on what a total fucking idiot your brother is.

:uhoh

.......

JFK 07-13-2009 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BEN FROM HOLLAND (Post 16058515)
The bank does not charge me to put a logo on my checks. This is NOT empty promises I'm working on it JFK. Keep you updated.

actually, YES, they do, but what does that have to do with anything ?:2 cents:


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