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F-U-Jimmy 07-10-2009 02:33 PM
Its that time again :winkwink:

jmcb420 07-10-2009 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 16050199)
Thanks for keeping this at the top :thumbsup
Huh?



ok......:winkwink:

MsCheyenne 07-10-2009 05:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16045388)
Make that $33,000,550

They owe me 20k. Does anyone have copies of their sincerely worded emails about catching up payments? They came across like boyscouts. A lot of webmasters had been with them for so long that we bought it, hook - line and sinker.

Cheyenne

roxyxxx 07-10-2009 05:15 PM
Don't use ibill!

F-U-Jimmy 07-10-2009 10:02 PM
Bump time again

STAROTICA 07-10-2009 10:09 PM
I was looking for the cliff notes...but this will do! :thumbsup

F-U-Jimmy 07-11-2009 02:42 AM
Late night drunken bump

sexdatesj 07-11-2009 08:35 AM
iBill was my first billing company, I dumped them and moved to Epoch 2+ years before they fucked us all over!.. THANK GOD.. I SAW THE LIGHT!

I lost 10k in rebills. I WILL NEVER USE ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM!

cherrylula 07-11-2009 01:14 PM
hey look an ibill thread

F-U-Jimmy 07-11-2009 01:27 PM
Bumpy :thumbsup

PPjohn 07-11-2009 02:04 PM
bump thx for the post

F-U-Jimmy 07-11-2009 03:48 PM
Bump for the money :Oh crap

F-U-Jimmy 07-11-2009 11:32 PM
Midnight bump

RyuLion 07-12-2009 12:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 16054816)
Midnight bump
- Back to the Future -

F-U-Jimmy 07-12-2009 10:25 AM
Sunday bump :upsidedow

MsCheyenne 07-12-2009 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 16047580)
A comparatively small amount, $80,000 plus who knows how much in recurring.

About 12 months before the shit hit the fan I started warning people about IBILL and switching as many members as I could to CCBILL and Epoch. Sadly I had some affiliates that where not convinced of Ibills demise and insisted on keeping with them, hence the $80,000 loss. But this is a drop in the ocean compared to the millions lost by others, it seems IBILL persuaded them to stay by offering shares in the company promissory notes and reduced billing fees only to shit on them as well. :mad:
NewYork Daily Times published an article comparing Ibill to Enron when this was going on. It was a good read.

Cheyenne

fatfoo 07-12-2009 07:01 PM
That sucks.

F-U-Jimmy 07-12-2009 11:28 PM
Its bump time again

Paul Markham 07-13-2009 01:35 AM
I hear all the hate and bile here and fully understand it. But the question is can Ibill survive long term.

I seriously doubt if Ibill will be around for long as they will sink because of costs, whether this time they are legit or not.

They have costs to cover day after day, whether they take $10 or $10,000,000. These costs are fixed, the more they grow the more these costs grow. Though not in proportion to their revenue. However to cover those basic costs they need XXX amount of business. With their 5% charges they will need a lot more than normal.

The days of new inexperienced people running big web companies profitably are very much over. So where will the business Ibill need to cover their costs come from? Not from those who know their history I wager.

Anyone processing with them runs the risk that the incoming revenue to Ibill will not cover the outgoing costs which leads to closure and loss of the business.

F-U-Jimmy 07-13-2009 10:07 AM
Monday Bump :thumbsup

F-U-Jimmy 07-13-2009 04:20 PM
Monday PM bump

F-U-Jimmy 07-14-2009 09:17 AM
Tuesdays bump :(

F-U-Jimmy 07-14-2009 03:05 PM
Bump :helpme

F-U-Jimmy 07-14-2009 05:31 PM
Bump3 :)

Brad Mitchell 07-14-2009 09:45 PM
Hey when if/when the current owners give up... sell me the domain name. Sure, Ibill fucked me, you, my friends, my clients. Right now all that is ancient, painful history. Lets get this 4 letter domain into some hands that can do something innovative and good in our marketplace without any association to the original debacle.

It still amazes me nobody is in prison and that the domain didn't end up in the hands of a court appointed receiver.

Brad

F-U-Jimmy 07-15-2009 09:32 AM
Wednesday Bump

F-U-Jimmy 07-15-2009 04:25 PM
pm bump :thumbsup

naughtywitch 07-15-2009 04:46 PM
How does something like this happen? For the ones that got out early, were there any warning signs at all?

F-U-Jimmy 07-15-2009 07:24 PM
If i remember the rot started with the web 900 fiasco then the sale of IBILL to Penthouse. Im sure others can remember more than this. :Oh crap

STAROTICA 07-16-2009 01:43 AM
bump! :helpme

F-U-Jimmy 07-16-2009 09:07 AM
Turdsday bump

F-U-Jimmy 07-16-2009 05:11 PM
bumpy2:upsidedow

Matyko 07-16-2009 10:53 PM
---> permanent sticky !

F-U-Jimmy 07-16-2009 11:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 16074757)
---> permanent sticky !

It would save me time bumping :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

RichCashOmar 07-17-2009 05:18 AM
good history

F-U-Jimmy 07-17-2009 07:22 AM
Back to the top :thumbsup

naughtywitch 07-17-2009 02:27 PM
I'll bump for ya...

F-U-Jimmy 07-17-2009 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by naughtywitch (Post 16077295)
I'll bump for ya...
Thank you :thumbsup

Matyko 07-18-2009 02:26 AM
Back to the top - Permanent Manual Sticky ;)

NKYKev 07-18-2009 04:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 16057511)
I hear all the hate and bile here and fully understand it. But the question is can Ibill survive long term.

I seriously doubt if Ibill will be around for long as they will sink because of costs, whether this time they are legit or not.

They have costs to cover day after day, whether they take $10 or $10,000,000. These costs are fixed, the more they grow the more these costs grow. Though not in proportion to their revenue. However to cover those basic costs they need XXX amount of business. With their 5% charges they will need a lot more than normal.

The days of new inexperienced people running big web companies profitably are very much over. So where will the business Ibill need to cover their costs come from? Not from those who know their history I wager.

Anyone processing with them runs the risk that the incoming revenue to Ibill will not cover the outgoing costs which leads to closure and loss of the business.
Based on the fees posted on their web site as of now, the fee for a high risk site with sales less than 10 grand is 7.5% plus .50 a transaction.

Nikki_Licks 07-18-2009 06:49 AM
Back to the top

And :321GFY iBill

CYF 07-18-2009 04:16 PM
Back to the top

SilentKnight 07-18-2009 06:02 PM
Deserves top spot...

F-U-Jimmy 07-19-2009 11:15 AM
Sunday Bump

MsCheyenne 07-19-2009 06:19 PM
Did anyone save copies of their promises to pay? The were written with the sincerity of a boy scout.

Cheyenne

CYF 07-20-2009 12:08 AM
almost off the first page, back to the top

F-U-Jimmy 07-20-2009 08:57 AM
Mondays kick in the crutch for iBALLS

F-U-Jimmy 07-20-2009 03:07 PM
More iball crushing :1orglaugh

F-U-Jimmy 07-20-2009 07:31 PM
BUMMMMMMMMMPY :thumbsup

F-U-Jimmy 07-21-2009 08:36 AM
Its that time again


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