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It took 6 days asshole because you sent some emails requesting some changes and also we designed you some banners or are those banners on your affiliate page not what we designed?

ok... so when it was finally sent by your standards...

why did your hits not register in my Cpanel?

you offered to to the banners with the "package" of (let me see... no traffic... alot of bullshit... something else... something that sucks worse.... etc.)

and you know stephen that the hits not registering is not my biggest problem... i mentioned that and you said something about a script... promised me traffic every time I talked to you...

always you came short... but to go back to the root...

WHY WOULDN"T YOUR TRAFFIC REGISTER ON MY CPANEL?

ok stephen... lets talk later then... maybe I will have some mysterious traffic and also be able to track it...

here's my stats from last month...

www.vstrippoker.com/junetraffic.doc

no sordid traffic...

If anyone really gives a fuck...

I just posted my experience...

what did your apache logs say?

www.vstrippoker.com/junetraffic.doc

my Cpanel registered nothing...

amount of "Direct address / Bookmarks" hits?

If Sordidtraffic used js to redirect/send the traffic, it's possible no referrer was sent.....

i thought this was over yesterday?

i have no idea what that means...

it was/is...

i saw KrisH asking again for my stats so I posted them...

now you can see all the hits I received minus sordidtraffic...

you posted 3 screenshots of the referring sites.... there's also a section ""Direct address / Bookmarks""... what does that say?

i'll check that out...

I'm not an expert on Awstats but it appears rather straight forward to me... it's either there or it is not...

btw... I did do a search in awstats for sordidtraffic.com and no hits showed...

meaning anything with www.sorditraffic.com/anythingatall would have come up...

nothing did...

I'll look at direct address/bookmarks though but can guarentee it has nothing to do with not receiving traffic

it says this...

Google 7290 34.9 % 9291 14.6 %
Windows Live 6585 31.5 % 44704 70.5 %
Yahoo! 5876 28.1 % 5917 9.3 %
AltaVista 190 0.9 % 190 0.2 %
Dogpile 147 0.7 % 147 0.2 %
Unknown search engines 132 0.6 % 132 0.2 %
Google (Images) 118 0.5 % 174 0.2 %
o2.pl 77 0.3 % 388 0.6 %
AT&T search (powered by Google) 63 0.3 % 452 0.7 %
Ask 36 0.1 % 36 0 %
Sapo 35 0.1 % 152 0.2 %
Interia.pl 35 0.1 % 494 0.7 %
Yandex 34 0.1 % 167 0.2 %
AllTheWeb 28 0.1 % 28 0 %
AOL 27 0.1 % 27 0 %
Seznam 21 0.1 % 53 0 %
Excite 17 0 % 317 0.5 %
MetaCrawler (Metamoteur) 16 0 % 16 0 %
MyWebSearch 16 0 % 16 0 %
Lycos 14 0 % 39 0 %
Voila 11 0 % 117 0.1 %
NetEase 9 0 % 130 0.2 %
Rambler 9 0 % 9 0 %
Netscape 8 0 % 19 0 %
ix quick 8 0 % 107 0.1 %
Alexa 7 0 % 7 0 %
MSN Search 6 0 % 6 0 %
SoGou 6 0 % 58 0 %
Spray 5 0 % 59 0 %
Fireball 5 0 % 5 0 %
Avantfind 4 0 % 4 0 %
GoodSearch 4 0 % 4 0 %
SOL 4 0 % 33 0 %
Baidu 4 0 % 4 0 %
Kvasir 4 0 % 4 0 %
Toile du Qu�bec 3 0 % 3 0 %
InfoSpace 3 0 % 3 0 %
Stumbleupon (Social Bookmark) 2 0 % 2 0 %
Virgilio 2 0 % 2 0 %
Jubii 2 0 % 22 0 %
Tiscali 1 0 % 1 0 %
Search.com 1 0 % 1 0 %
Jumpy.it 1 0 % 6 0 %
Hotbot 1 0 % 1 0 %
AOL (fr) 1 0 % 1 0 %
Sphere (Blog) 1 0 % 1 0 %
Clusty 1 0 % 1 0 %
Arianna 1 0 % 1 0 %
Zoznam 18 0 %
Centrum.cz

Incorrect, if(*) SordidT is sending (redirecting) traffic using javascript (for example), then most of that traffic would carry no referrer in the header, your script (awstats) would list those hits under "direct address/bookmarks".


(*) I have no idea how they send traffic, but since it's possible to strip the referrer using certain pieces of (js for example) code and some brokers use (have used) javascript in their redirects (to filter out bots for example), this could explain the confusion.

that would be "Links from an Internet Search Engine ".

see a "Direct address / Bookmarks" section?

Yes. Flash & JavaScript would mean no refer.

This was my reply in the other thread...

Sordidstats is a script that simply counts the visitors that travel through the link which then directs immediately to the target URL. This was explained to him.

Click here - http://sordidstats.com/?VFJDS0FEPTQ1 and you will see what I mean.

This is a screenshot of his stats login - http://sordidstats.com/stats.jpg

If the buyers stats are not showing the sordidstats URL, they would have shown the actual referring URL`s in question. The traffic that started to be sent on the 23rd (as per the above screenshot) is the EXACT same traffic that has been sent when it was not being run through the stats script and which the buyer confirmed he was seeing the traffic.

It is ridiculous to think that I would be sending traffic that is any different.

To repeat myself again, the type of traffic being sent when the campaign started (when you complained of not seeing them) is the identical type of traffic that you confirmed you was seeing in the stats (when not being run through the script).

I cannot get the raw logs because to use the server techs terms - "There is no way to pull logs from 30 days ago if it is rotated or deleted."

really...

i don't buy that...

also... you didn't read my thread... the traffic not being sent happened last month which made me question the traffic...

since it has been "tomorrow" ever since... that is my biggest problem... waiting and waiting and nothing...

moral of the story: use a special landing page when buying traffic.

i did... it was...

www.vstrippoker.com/refer.php... the only traffic that would register to that page was his...

i did get 3k hits after I asked... many, many times for my money back because the traffic was not being sent

just to clarify those hits... he told me to check my stats and see if i saw 3 urls... i did...

I posted them prior... that then stopped after I saw the hits and again no traffic...

Also... those sites were infected with trojans and tube sites... if you know what that means...

got stats for that page?

mmcfadden: got stats for that /refer.php page?
got "no referffer"/"Direct address"/"Bookmarks" stats?

I sent that page up to track "free" signups...

Here is a copy of that page... "3, 4, and 5" are the sites of the three urls that he gave me a good amount of time after I paid him and back and forth on emails/icq's. That is page 34 of 35...

Edit Delete 1002 face2122 2 2009-07-06 12:05:45
Edit Delete 1003 yeahbaby 2 2009-07-06 12:39:42
Edit Delete 1004 cumele 2 2009-07-06 13:17:09
Edit Delete 1005 00084 2 2009-07-06 13:20:49
Edit Delete 1006 oke84 2 2009-07-06 13:21:00
Edit Delete 1007 x12345 2 2009-07-06 13:27:20
Edit Delete 1008 tmac88888 2 2009-07-06 15:04:36
Edit Delete 1009 seamud 2 2009-07-06 15:24:17
Edit Delete 1010 mikeox9 2 2009-07-06 16:07:37
Edit Delete 1011 piul 2 2009-07-06 16:26:39
Edit Delete 1012 thanhngan 2 2009-07-06 16:49:52
Edit Delete 1013 shle43 2 2009-07-06 17:05:38
Edit Delete 1014 no one 2 2009-07-06 17:07:48
Edit Delete 1015 rammalik4 2 2009-07-06 17:35:42
Edit Delete 1016 sexy girl 2 2009-07-06 17:49:54
Edit Delete 1017 jorick8 2 2009-07-06 18:10:23
Edit Delete 1018 phuong 2 2009-07-06 18:11:50
Edit Delete 1019 carls 2 2009-07-06 19:00:33
Edit Delete 1020 nguoidoi 2 2009-07-06 19:13:28
Edit Delete 1021 thickxxx 2 2009-07-06 19:47:28
Edit Delete 1022 srey86 2 2009-07-06 19:48:38
Edit Delete 1023 duyduc 2 2009-07-06 19:53:41
Edit Delete 1024 sebas12 2 2009-07-06 20:53:12
Edit Delete 1025 mdadadda 2 2009-07-06 20:58:03
Edit Delete 1026 54666 2 2009-07-06 21:28:44
Edit Delete 1027 gywilkinsos 2 2009-07-06 21:52:28
Edit Delete 1028 sslonewolf 3 2009-07-10 16:26:32
Edit Delete 1029 sammer 4 2009-07-10 23:50:16
Edit Delete 1030 jamitheslut 3 2009-07-11 15:33:57
Edit Delete 1031 jawadmmd 3 2009-07-11 15:43:12

page 35 of 35

Edit Delete 1032 bigdawg2001 5 2009-07-12 21:35:24
Edit Delete 1033 gladbach 4 2009-07-13 05:30:55

Read these emails... icqs if you want...

www.vstrippoker.com/sordidheadache.doc
www.vstrippoker.com/sordidproposal.doc

I don't have exact results for those pages except the php file confirming the free signups. Maybe he knows how to track it... i'll ask him... but also the dates are kinda important here.

And if stephen sent traffic it would have been already after I told him enough is enough and for likely the 3rd or 4th time that I wanted my money back.

But even so... I need the url's to track the results... not just some clicks from who knows where..

I am reporting my experience.

I'm reading the emails right now, but the question i've got for you is "How many no-referrer hits did you get?"

I can't find where in awstats it lists that... maybe you take a screenshot of your Cpanel and show me?

in the left panel (in awstats):

Referrers:
Origin
... Referring search engines
... Referring sites
Search
... Search Keyphrases
... Search Keywords

click on Origin.

Direct address / Bookmark / Link in email... 346756 69.1 % 1729369 66.7 %
Links from an Internet Search Engine - Full list
- Google 21636 21672
- Yahoo! 8595 8654
- Windows Live 1142 1142
- Unknown search engines 379 380
- AltaVista 267 267
- Dogpile 215 215
- Google (Images) 215 362
- AOL 111 111
- AT&T search (powered by Google) 63 63
- AllTheWeb 63 65
- Ask 53 53
- MyWebSearch 37 43
- MetaCrawler (Metamoteur) 21 21
- Virgilio 17 17
- Netscape 17 17
- WebCrawler 15 15
- Kvasir 15 15
- SoGou 10 116
- Avantfind 9 9
- AOL (fr) 9 9
- Excite 9 9
- Toile du Qu�bec 8 8
- Sapo 7 7
- InfoSpace 7 7
- Lycos 6 6
- Others 55 60

That's what is says...

There is no additional link to the "non-referring" sites.

"Direct address / Bookmark / Link in email... 346756 69.1 % 1729369 66.7 %"

Those are your no-referrer hits:
bookmarkers
direct type-ins
...
and possibly traffic that was redirected to your site using certain javascripts (or flash...)

so might want to compare that amount/percentage of traffic with the amount of no-referrer traffic you got in previous months...

</ my 2 cents>

Last month I started an email campaign so my stat percentages would be different...

I posted all my correspondence...

I had enough after weeks of bullshit...

Looking at your alexa for vstrippoker.com it does seem like since the start of june you bounce rate is 2.5 times higher than normal which means that you are receiving larger quantities of low quality traffic than usual.
Especially at the start of July you had a small spike in your reach rank as well.
It appears like something was delivered.

Here is my advice for anyone buying traffic.
Setup a script that will track the following:
-Referring URL (or lack of that)
-Country
-Proxies
-Daily stats
-Option to track "sales"

Buying traffic based on referring domain is asking for problems.

P.S. neither of you will post facts so you are both wrong and the refund should be sent to me :pimp

should have set up
a /fromsordidtraffic.php page
a /fromemailcampaign.php page
a /fromtrafficbrokerx.php page
a /fromtrafficbrokery.php page
imho

edit... that bounce rate wasn't from him...

He didn't start to send traffic till june 23

i tried to edit that again... that 23d is when he said he was sending traffic that did not register