Ok, every webserver have logfiles showing access to the server. Every time someone load the page, hotlink a image or even ping the server, the webserver records it and it get stored in the raw access files.

All you need to do to prove your point, is take one of those files from your Cpanel, post the file here. Those that want prove, can then go through the fill and see where whatever traffic to your server came from. If it was from Sordid, a SE or something else.


To me, it seems like you DONT want to prove it

i feel like a little school girl in 10th grade going... ohh mee... ohhh mee...

you want me to post my awstats on the day that traffic was suppose to come from sordid?

Take my word for it... no hits registered...

My problem with stephen is not just that... that is what started our debacle...

after that no traffic was coming and he and I admit that because he said he was working on a script... weeks passed and I still have no traffic... that's the big problem...

I don't know what the fuck you are talking about proving anything... for all I care please believe that you can give money to stephen and you will get awesome traffic...

ok... damn i'm fucking tired

please don't respond in my thread anymore... thanks

listen to that song I posted man... its good

That is the point - NOBODY will EVER "just take your word for it"

But as I said, you seem to NOT want to prove you are right. And you can only expect people to draw one conclution from that - and that is you are full of shit

you are a fucking idiot. I was trying to help you prove you were right.

Sordid should get you banned for posting stuff like this and not wanting to prove it

no you weren't...

Yes I did. Both in this topic and the other. for 2 days now I have been telling you - all you need to do is post the serverlogs to prove you are right. But you dont post them

The second you said "just take your word for it" I changed my mind about you. Because people that say that, 9 times out of 10, they are trying to cover up their lies

Hi KrisH, yes he is a fucking idiot and doesn`t know when to shut-up. I seriously think their is something wrong with him.

I have remained silent for several hours and he has posted comment after comment. Just to demonstrate he tells lies, he has stated time and time again that he has pissed $500 away (when in fact he has confirmed himself that a partial refund had been done).
He also stated no traffic sent yet in the next breath says that some traffic has been sent.

This morning I have requested my server provider to try and extract the raw logs for the past 30 days because I can only pull them from the 14th of this month.

Hopefully I can get them and show people what a prick he really is.

curious why your site doesnt list where thr traffic comes from like every other broker out the4re

ok... what do you need? do you know that we aren't debating traffic on june 17th... the entire debate is about traffic not registering on my cpanel on that date and since has been... working on a new script... traffic will run tomorrow, etc.

Its july 17th now... i pulled the plug last night on the 16th...

so from june 17th to yesterday i was promised that traffic would start and it never did... that is the big problem... the 3k unregistered hits its what started me asking the questions...

bear in mind... i gave $500 on the 17th of june for traffic and have not had it...

can you see where I'm coming from... it's a month later... think about all those emails and icq's promising traffic the next day that never came through...

should i just party with this forever... when do you draw the line... i called it last night...

We happily advise people where traffic is coming from. No secrets. We don`t list anything on the site purely because their is so many different sites/publishers that we work with and this changes on a near daily basis.
Many of the campaigns that we set-up are custom where we include URL`s, placements etc.

We are always setting-up deals with website owners for reselling their ad space.

All this time you spend making those replies, and yet you dont want to show the logs or stats. You have had more than 2 days where people tell you to post the logs.

Sure "we will just take your word for it"......

It's simple:
1 - sordid gives you a list of the domains sending the traffic
2 - you post your stats for that month

if the domains dont show up in "reffering domains" then you are right, and sordid full of shit

But again - you refuse to post the prove

Just because I say he is a idiot, dont mean I automaticly think you are right.

All I am saying is, he cant just come in here claiming you scam him for 500 dollars but not wanting to prove it

go fuck yourself in every way possible...

let me get this straight... I give you $500 for traffic which is completely eraditic...totally untraceable... not registering on my cpanel... talked to your dumb ass for a month straight now on ICQ and emails... and now I am in the wrong...

just explain to me why sordidstats would not register on my Cpanel and I may have some confirmation that I didn't get totally ripped off by you...

You have no fucking idea what you are doing. Traffic did not start on the 17th. It begun on the 23rd.

oh.. i just looked up the email when I sent you $500... my bad... it took you 6 days to register nothing...

hmmm...

so... stephen... on the 23rd then... why didn't my cpanel register your hits?

I wasn`t asking you to say I`m right. I`m saying that the constant shit spewing out from him is incorrect and this will be demonstrated if I can hopefully extract the raw logs from the 23rd.

and then after that... you recognizing no hits were sent to my cpanel... why did I flip my lid yesterday on this agenda?

I guess that makes from june 23 to yesterday the dates that I was promised traffic with url's so I could track it... right?

Please stop me when I outright lie....

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It took 6 days asshole because you sent some emails requesting some changes and also we designed you some banners or are those banners on your affiliate page not what we designed?

ok... so when it was finally sent by your standards...

why did your hits not register in my Cpanel?

you offered to to the banners with the "package" of (let me see... no traffic... alot of bullshit... something else... something that sucks worse.... etc.)

and you know stephen that the hits not registering is not my biggest problem... i mentioned that and you said something about a script... promised me traffic every time I talked to you...

always you came short... but to go back to the root...

WHY WOULDN"T YOUR TRAFFIC REGISTER ON MY CPANEL?

ok stephen... lets talk later then... maybe I will have some mysterious traffic and also be able to track it...

here's my stats from last month...

www.vstrippoker.com/junetraffic.doc

no sordid traffic...

If anyone really gives a fuck...

I just posted my experience...

what did your apache logs say?

www.vstrippoker.com/junetraffic.doc

my Cpanel registered nothing...

amount of "Direct address / Bookmarks" hits?

If Sordidtraffic used js to redirect/send the traffic, it's possible no referrer was sent.....

i thought this was over yesterday?

i have no idea what that means...

it was/is...

i saw KrisH asking again for my stats so I posted them...

now you can see all the hits I received minus sordidtraffic...

you posted 3 screenshots of the referring sites.... there's also a section ""Direct address / Bookmarks""... what does that say?

i'll check that out...

I'm not an expert on Awstats but it appears rather straight forward to me... it's either there or it is not...

btw... I did do a search in awstats for sordidtraffic.com and no hits showed...

meaning anything with www.sorditraffic.com/anythingatall would have come up...

nothing did...

I'll look at direct address/bookmarks though but can guarentee it has nothing to do with not receiving traffic

it says this...

Google 7290 34.9 % 9291 14.6 %
Windows Live 6585 31.5 % 44704 70.5 %
Yahoo! 5876 28.1 % 5917 9.3 %
AltaVista 190 0.9 % 190 0.2 %
Dogpile 147 0.7 % 147 0.2 %
Unknown search engines 132 0.6 % 132 0.2 %
Google (Images) 118 0.5 % 174 0.2 %
o2.pl 77 0.3 % 388 0.6 %
AT&T search (powered by Google) 63 0.3 % 452 0.7 %
Ask 36 0.1 % 36 0 %
Sapo 35 0.1 % 152 0.2 %
Interia.pl 35 0.1 % 494 0.7 %
Yandex 34 0.1 % 167 0.2 %
AllTheWeb 28 0.1 % 28 0 %
AOL 27 0.1 % 27 0 %
Seznam 21 0.1 % 53 0 %
Excite 17 0 % 317 0.5 %
MetaCrawler (Metamoteur) 16 0 % 16 0 %
MyWebSearch 16 0 % 16 0 %
Lycos 14 0 % 39 0 %
Voila 11 0 % 117 0.1 %
NetEase 9 0 % 130 0.2 %
Rambler 9 0 % 9 0 %
Netscape 8 0 % 19 0 %
ix quick 8 0 % 107 0.1 %
Alexa 7 0 % 7 0 %
MSN Search 6 0 % 6 0 %
SoGou 6 0 % 58 0 %
Spray 5 0 % 59 0 %
Fireball 5 0 % 5 0 %
Avantfind 4 0 % 4 0 %
GoodSearch 4 0 % 4 0 %
SOL 4 0 % 33 0 %
Baidu 4 0 % 4 0 %
Kvasir 4 0 % 4 0 %
Toile du Qu�bec 3 0 % 3 0 %
InfoSpace 3 0 % 3 0 %
Stumbleupon (Social Bookmark) 2 0 % 2 0 %
Virgilio 2 0 % 2 0 %
Jubii 2 0 % 22 0 %
Tiscali 1 0 % 1 0 %
Search.com 1 0 % 1 0 %
Jumpy.it 1 0 % 6 0 %
Hotbot 1 0 % 1 0 %
AOL (fr) 1 0 % 1 0 %
Sphere (Blog) 1 0 % 1 0 %
Clusty 1 0 % 1 0 %
Arianna 1 0 % 1 0 %
Zoznam 18 0 %
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Incorrect, if(*) SordidT is sending (redirecting) traffic using javascript (for example), then most of that traffic would carry no referrer in the header, your script (awstats) would list those hits under "direct address/bookmarks".


(*) I have no idea how they send traffic, but since it's possible to strip the referrer using certain pieces of (js for example) code and some brokers use (have used) javascript in their redirects (to filter out bots for example), this could explain the confusion.

that would be "Links from an Internet Search Engine ".

see a "Direct address / Bookmarks" section?

Yes. Flash & JavaScript would mean no refer.

This was my reply in the other thread...

Sordidstats is a script that simply counts the visitors that travel through the link which then directs immediately to the target URL. This was explained to him.

Click here - http://sordidstats.com/?VFJDS0FEPTQ1 and you will see what I mean.

This is a screenshot of his stats login - http://sordidstats.com/stats.jpg

If the buyers stats are not showing the sordidstats URL, they would have shown the actual referring URL`s in question. The traffic that started to be sent on the 23rd (as per the above screenshot) is the EXACT same traffic that has been sent when it was not being run through the stats script and which the buyer confirmed he was seeing the traffic.

It is ridiculous to think that I would be sending traffic that is any different.

To repeat myself again, the type of traffic being sent when the campaign started (when you complained of not seeing them) is the identical type of traffic that you confirmed you was seeing in the stats (when not being run through the script).

I cannot get the raw logs because to use the server techs terms - "There is no way to pull logs from 30 days ago if it is rotated or deleted."

really...

i don't buy that...

also... you didn't read my thread... the traffic not being sent happened last month which made me question the traffic...

since it has been "tomorrow" ever since... that is my biggest problem... waiting and waiting and nothing...

moral of the story: use a special landing page when buying traffic.