I am not questioning your decision to turn him away, I am however pointing out the idiotic way you are going to humiliate a other person just to entertain yourself, without regards to what it does to him.

If you want to be seen as professional, start acting like it.


I dont shoot content, never have and never will. For the simple fact I cant pretend I find them interesting enough to talk to during the breaks, and I have Zero Patience.

And I am sure models in general feel the same about me, and I accept that.

But I dont try and humiliate them for my own entertainment.

Problem that I see starting to crop up here is simply that the same old guys are just that. the same idiots making the same faces wearing the same shades etc..

Might want to start a PORN Actor camp and let these guys pay you to teach them.. Use a video camera for the whole thing and Viola. you have a gay movie.

The only thing that could make this story better is if he found this thread.

You dont seem to understand what gets accomplished if he can do what i ask. If he can do this, then he can be a male performer.


And as far as questioning me as a professional, you will be very hard pressed to find any girl or guy that has a bad thing to say about me. Other shooters are the 1st to hear bad shit about other shooters because we work with the same people. They too will not have heard nothing about me acting unprofessional or creepy.


Since i see that my actions bother you and i seem like a bad guy in your eyes, i will not post anymore emails i get from this guy. Im sorry and will no longer share my idiocies with you and this board.







Please give me a better way to try out guys without loosing money and i will follow what you say. :2 cents:

That might be best for him. That way he can see what it's really like here

Post the video here.

I belive its called "audition" :1orglaugh

Dont get me wrong, I dont have a problem making fun, pushing people around or being a idiot, I should be the last to speak against that. I just think you are doing things that could have some unwanted consequenses in the wannabe-talents personal life, when you ask him to invite his friends over and jerk it on a CD cover.


Just like I dident think it was funny when people abused Lawrenc Connor, just to entertain themself

Always will be problem with new male actor. I meet lots of male actors who say that thet do incredible things in shooting , but when we shoot they have BIIIIG problem.

But its fine and dandy to humiliate girls on camera for your entertainment if it turns you a profit ?

As producers we are sick of the big ego..

OH I CAN DO THIS NO PROBLEM

IM AN EXIBITIONIST

I DO THIS WITH MY GIRLFRIEND ALL THE THE TIME

and then the classic that never gets old..
DAM THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE !

If you have lost as much money and wasted as much timne as we have, youd be saying the same thing. Problem is, youre on the outside of the issue looking in and have no clue.

Thats the audition.. in sports or any other pressure job, we aint gonna sugar coat it. We are gonna put you to the test. If you dont like it then tough. Dont waste our time. If you do well, you work everyday and fuck hot babes

How do these guys get ahold of you anyway? Is it just your myspace page?

I would of just told him to fuck another guy in the ass for 15 minutes, then in return let the guy fuck him in the ass for another 30 minutes, and then command him to bust a nut while the guy is pounding away at his brown eye in less then 5 minutes after the 30 minute time is up...

Didn't most of the big guys, start out doing gay shoots even though they are straight?

This is 2009. Can I masturbate onto my ipod?

where the fuck did I say anything about it being OK if it were a female?

i bet a gay program would love the video from you lol

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Im not hear to attack you or fight with you, thats not me. But you really need to think things through before you become the morality police. You keep looking at what i am having the guy do versus what it shows me what he can do or not do on camera. You way got me all wrong.


Any shooter will tell you if a guy can do what i need done, he can perform in front of a camera. Its that simple.





You really show me and all of the shooters how much you really dont know. So who pays for the girls time, makeup, location and the crew if this guy, (who says he can do it), cant????


I am being factual not attacking you. Who pays???:2 cents:

So your way of auditioning people, are to have them gather 10 of their friends, and jerk it on videotape, and send you that video?


and you wonder why I call some producers unprofessional?

Dave's male-talent-wannabe-mocking threads crack me up!

I can see what some people are saying with regards it being cruel or whatever, but if you've got the balls to send these kinds of e-mail, and especially if you've got the balls to actually do the shit Dave is asking these guys to do, then being mocked on a forum isn't exactly gonna do you much harm. These wannabes are asking for the opportunity to fuck sluts on camera for a living - do you really think reading this thread or wanking onto a CD case in front of friends is gonna drive them to suicide?! It's up to them if they wanna do dumb shit - Dave isn't forcing anyone to do anything. And I don't think it's particularly unprofessional - he's not publishing anyone's e-mail address or anything. Besides, if professionalism is an issue then these wannabes should be contacting companies direct instead of messaging people through MySpace.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


I'm guessing it's because it's easy to wipe off!

I dont see your replies as if you are trying to attack you or fight with me. To me its a straightforward honest discussion, and that is what we are all here for

But come on man, drop the bullshit, nobody told you that you had to make the first meeting with girls, makeup, location and a crew. When you interview people for a job, you dont take them to the final interview the first day.

Sending the guy this in a email would have made a lot of sense.

You seem very successful to me; but I'm wondering if you actually have a life.

or at least a Blu-Ray disc LOL

hahaha, funny

:1orglaugh

The interview? He isnt applying for an acting gig or an office job and i dont want him pulling his cock out in my office and stroking it. The job plain and simple. Can you get hard and take direction.

My tryout addresses all of those issues and i dont have to be there for it. I dont see a problem with it. If he can do it he gets a real tryout with a real girl and i know he wont waste my time.



I challenge you to come up with a detailed step by step process on trying guys out for a position of male performer. You need to be very detailed and keep in mind if there is a girl involved you will be paying money out of your pocket. You post it in this thread in detail and have everyone vote on who's way is more efficient and less expensive.




Everybody gets to vote. Please state what you do and why you made your particular choice. Obviously shooters will pull more weight due to their experiences. Good luck:thumbsup

haha, nice... anyone got the link to that video where Dave let's 3 guys try out?

Its kinda sad, but my life is all work. I shoot just about everyday, between producing adult content, editing content, editing pics, shooting music videos and shooting pics for DVD companies i get very little personal time for myself. Keep in mind, i can check GFY with my Blackberry. Gfy always puts a smile on my face.lol:2 cents:

LMAO, send him to our latest project and he might learn something!

So you think you can be a pornstar?????
www.stuntcocktryouts.com

haha - no thanks, I would not like to take you up on that challenge, nor do I want to tell you how to run your business. My statement is still the same as the first reply, I think its unprofessional to treat a person that contact you that way.

It's like if I told people, to setup a new Active Directory for me, while having their pants on fire. Because if they did that I would know they really wanted the job.

Oh, let me cry for you. Who the fuck isn't living like that now???!!!! :helpme

The only difference is that some people are actually making decent money.

:2 cents:

I don't think this has anything to do with proving that he wants the job, it's about proving that he is capable of doing the job to begin with. If you are trying to hire a programmer, aren't you going to ask to see his work first?

It's clear Dave is not a talent agent. He isn't going to run a casting couch and watch 30 guys jerking off in a booth every day. If this guy wants to work for Dave's company he will have to do whatever Dave says.

I would like to see the programmers work, but I am not going to ask him to create a random script for me, before i hire him to do the real job.



I agree 100% that If this guy wants to work for Dave's company, he will have to do whatever Dave says. My only point is, that he is fabricating a illusion in that guys head, that will most likely come crashing down if he tries to do what was asked of him here.

Most guys can't perform under pressure and dave is just filtering the weak from the strong in his own unique way. Might not be fair in some eyes but perfectly acceptable in others.

I don't care what anyone does as long as no one is physically being harmed.

You want to work for Dave, cum on a CD! hahaha

P.S. Dave can I audition?

You should just crawl back into that hole you call lala land
and stay out of adult biz. This is no place for the clueless.

Daves not doing anything more than asking some to deliver what he can promise, as I would to. All hes asking him to do is audition in front of 10 people before he knows before he PAYS him to do it infront of 10 people he dont know. If he can not deal with it, then Burger King is hiring.

For alot of us this is our life.

until you shoot content, you'll never understand. until then, you sound like an ignorant fool. I suggest you just stop while you've only got 1/2 your foot in your mouth.

Yo are missing what i am trying to accomplish.


Have you ever seen porn shot??? Really been on set???


First of all every single thing you see is because the director wants you to see that. The positions, the angles, the time in those positions the story line to be followed and the characters that they are sopose to be are all from the directors head.

Keep in mind when im shooting i am right at the side of the male performer and i also got a c light guy right next to me. I am looking in the male performers eye mouthing silently or hand signaling things like, open up, slow down, speed up, grab a particular body part of the girl or change position.

A good performer can keep eye contact with me just about the whole scene and stay rock hard. A beginner or amateur will stress out and loose wood because he thinks im telling him things i need done because im madd. Once a guy stresses out your scene is done no matter how many viagras or cealises he is on. Its all in his head. If he has the i dont give a fuck and im hear to do a job he may be able to do it. Saying you dont give a fuck and you can do this dosnt count for shit! I hear that every 2 days via email. And i have tryed out 70 guys that said they are the shit and could do this easy and only 5 or so did it well. Being a male performer is a very mental and stressful job.


Now what im asking this guy to do is to put himself into a stressful environment by having his friends around while he actually trys and performs for the camera that his friend is holding.


Im friends with Derrick Perice(a good male performer) and when the camera is off he will be butt ass naked stroking his cock to keep it hard and we will be talking about the fight this weekend while the girl runs off to change a bloody ass make up sponge that leaked all over my male.


Derrick needs to keep solid and not let this nasty, bloody incident get into his head and fuck up his wood. Since i do know all of my guys we bullshit in between cuts and they are butt ass naked holding and stroking their cocks.


Now how is my set different than what im asking this guy to do??? And as for the Cd case, it simulates a target the size of a girls face.


How is what im asking this guy to do being unprofessional? If you cant be butt ass naked in front of your friends stroking your cock to stay hard, you wont be able to do it on a porn set full of people. Its that simple!!


Me and a bunch of these shooters must be real good, because we all have you web-masters, designers, and SEO guys fooled that porn is real and what you are seeing is the will of the guys and girls involved.lol:2 cents:

noooooooooooooooooooo

Can I start in your movies? I promise I can keep it hard. :)

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