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JohnnyPearl 07-17-2009 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 16078276)
Call 10 friends

I'll bring 20 instead.

MichaelP 07-17-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16078185)
Yo are missing what i am trying to accomplish.

Have you ever seen porn shot??? Really been on set???

First of all every single thing you see is because the director wants you to see that. The positions, the angles, the time in those positions the story line to be followed and the characters that they are sopose to be are all from the directors head.

Keep in mind when im shooting i am right at the side of the male performer and i also got a c light guy right next to me. I am looking in the male performers eye mouthing silently or hand signaling things like, open up, slow down, speed up, grab a particular body part of the girl or change position.

A good performer can keep eye contact with me just about the whole scene and stay rock hard. A beginner or amateur will stress out and loose wood because he thinks im telling him things i need done because im madd. Once a guy stresses out your scene is done no matter how many viagras or cealises he is on. Its all in his head. If he has the i dont give a fuck and im hear to do a job he may be able to do it. Saying you dont give a fuck and you can do this dosnt count for shit! I hear that every 2 days via email. And i have tryed out 70 guys that said they are the shit and could do this easy and only 5 or so did it well. Being a male performer is a very mental and stressful job.


Now what im asking this guy to do is to put himself into a stressful environment by having his friends around while he actually trys and performs for the camera that his friend is holding.


Im friends with Derrick Perice(a good male performer) and when the camera is off he will be butt ass naked stroking his cock to keep it hard and we will be talking about the fight this weekend while the girl runs off to change a bloody ass make up sponge that leaked all over my male.


Derrick needs to keep solid and not let this nasty, bloody incident get into his head and fuck up his wood. Since i do know all of my guys we bullshit in between cuts and they are butt ass naked holding and stroking their cocks.


Now how is my set different than what im asking this guy to do??? And as for the Cd case, it simulates a target the size of a girls face.


How is what im asking this guy to do being unprofessional? If you cant be butt ass naked in front of your friends stroking your cock to stay hard, you wont be able to do it on a porn set full of people. Its that simple!!


Me and a bunch of these shooters must be real good, because we all have you web-masters, designers, and SEO guys fooled that porn is real and what you are seeing is the will of the guys and girls involved.lol:2 cents:


WORDS! :thumbsup


just not ok with the designers part though :winkwink:

Anthony 07-17-2009 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Exotic Gold (Post 16074884)
Best.
Post.
Ever.

I'm glad I was able to spread some joy with that post. Do you know the pain to hear your Girlfriend tell her Aunt, "He's pretty hung for an asian" brings? I wish it on no man.

<sob>

Machete_ 07-18-2009 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PornNewz (Post 16078089)
until you shoot content, you'll never understand. until then, you sound like an ignorant fool. I suggest you just stop while you've only got 1/2 your foot in your mouth.

shut the fuck up and stick to your scraper blog and forum spamming - you have zero clue what I do or what I have done in this business

Machete_ 07-18-2009 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16078185)

Me and a bunch of these shooters must be real good, because we all have you web-masters, designers, and SEO guys fooled that porn is real and what you are seeing is the will of the guys and girls involved.lol:2 cents:

come on man - is this the lvl you want to drag the debate down to?

Yes I have been on shoots, but not because I wanted to. I'm not a social person, and seeing two people I dont have any professional or personal relating to, fucking in front of me, is not what I consider a good time.

If it was for a clients site, I would stay to make sure we got what we wanted.

But its not about that, and that is where you keep misunderstanding me.


I pointed at two things that made me say you were handeling it unprofessionally

1 - that you were asking him to involve his friends outside the business, in his quest for pornstar glory. Most people (not myself) want to hide their involvement in the business, and surdenly dont want to involve their friends in their porn work.

2 - you were making his confidential emails to you public on these boards


You can go on and keep saying "you are not a content producer, so you know nothing", but that is your personal oppinion. You dont know me, and you have no idea what I do for a living.

Again, Im not telling you how to run your business, but I will bloody comment on it when I think you cross the line. Just as i comment on it when other producers fuck their own content as "audition"

Hentaikid 07-18-2009 06:14 AM

If the guy does it and he gets the job then it's fair, it would be cruel if he did that and then just got laughed at, but it seems clear if he comes (no pun intended) through, he'll get to be a performer.

Sounds fair to me?

eroticsexxx 07-18-2009 08:21 AM

Dave's audition and his strategy for weeding out the wannabe's sounds more than fair.

Keeping your dick hard isn't about whatever else is going on around you. I've done a few Caribbean-based shoots and almost failed on one of them when my mind started wandering.

The funny thing is that I knew the woman doing the shoot and THAT is what took my nerve temporarily. I actually thought it would have been easier to fuck her. (Inexperience, I know)

The fear of humiliation is a powerful thing. Once you stop giving a shit, you're golden.

Pulling out your dick, getting hard and stroking it for 15 - 20 minutes in front of your boys (and trading the resulting verbal jabs back and forth) is nothing when you get to that point.

amacontent 07-18-2009 10:02 AM

OK Kris H since you seem to be the master here, I mean with your years of experience here... 2 things

1- Keep in mind one important factor.. HE APPROACHED US!

2- In all your wisdom and glory, how would you assure a newbie, who in most cases just wants to get laid, but how would you assure a successful audition with out cost to yourself upon sure failure 90 % of the time.

And Ill say this again, youre absolutley nuts if you think its crossing the line to ask a guy to prove himself in a situation like this. But i am DYING to hear your brilliant suggestion to this. As is every agent and producer here in LA.

sortie 07-18-2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hentaikid (Post 16080200)
If the guy does it and he gets the job then it's fair, it would be cruel if he did that and then just got laughed at, but it seems clear if he comes (no pun intended) through, he'll get to be a performer.

Sounds fair to me?

But why is he making this thread to tell us about his fantastic technique of finding
new talent? If it works so good shouldn't that be his little secret?

The whole point of the thread is to humiliate people who contact him looking for
a job. Nothing more going on here.

amacontent 07-18-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 16080564)
But why is he making this thread to tell us about his fantastic technique of finding
new talent? If it works so good shouldn't that be his little secret?

The whole point of the thread is to humiliate people who contact him looking for
a job. Nothing more going on here.

This thread isnt about his way of finding new talent. Its about testing guys out who come to him wanting to be new talent.

amacontent 07-18-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 16080564)
But why is he making this thread to tell us about his fantastic technique of finding
new talent? If it works so good shouldn't that be his little secret?

The whole point of the thread is to humiliate people who contact him looking for
a job. Nothing more going on here.

And its not about humiliating people. ITs a waste of our valueable fucking time and money to get some idiot who thinks hes Peter North swearing up and down he can be male talent only to realize HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

He is the one wanting the job
He is the one emailing us
He is the one swearing he can do it.

OK well prove it at no cost to us in a pressure situation

We are not gonna put pretty boy newcomer alone in a room with a hot porn girl (which we have to pay) , and sweet romantic music playing.. so he can take his time and see if his little willy can get erect so this girl can blow him. And then if he does manage to do it, say sure buddy we will put you in movies and make you a star. YOURE SO TALENTED.

WAKE UP PEOPLE TO THE REAL WORLD. PORN thse days is fast, hardcore and no time for limp dicks.

I will even tell you this. When agents try to push new guys i havent used yet on me, its with the understanding I get a $200 kill fee if he cant perform for wasting my time.

JustDaveXxx 07-18-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16079458)
But its not about that, and that is where you keep misunderstanding me.


I pointed at two things that made me say you were handeling it unprofessionally

1 - that you were asking him to involve his friends outside the business, in his quest for pornstar glory. Most people (not myself) want to hide their involvement in the business, and surdenly dont want to involve their friends in their porn work.

2 - you were making his confidential emails to you public on these boards


You can go on and keep saying "you are not a content producer, so you know nothing", but that is your personal oppinion. You dont know me, and you have no idea what I do for a living.

Again, Im not telling you how to run your business, but I will bloody comment on it when I think you cross the line. Just as i comment on it when other producers fuck their own content as "audition"


So you would have felt better if i recommended he get 12 random guys from Creigs list?


And as far as making his email public, have i disclosed his 1st and last name? Did i post where he lives? Did i post pics?(i could have easily done) Are you able to figure out who he is? If you do not know who it is, it is not personal information.


So you think im a bad guy for those 2 things?? So i discredited Your point (2).



So if i send him and everybody who emails me to Creigs list i will no longer be the unprofessional bad guy in your eyes?? Im trying to be a good guy in your book please guide me. Let me know so i can send this guy the new updated request changes. "must use Creigs list guys instead of friends".:thumbsup





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Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 16080376)
Dave's audition and his strategy for weeding out the wannabe's sounds more than fair.

Keeping your dick hard isn't about whatever else is going on around you. I've done a few Caribbean-based shoots and almost failed on one of them when my mind started wandering.

The funny thing is that I knew the woman doing the shoot and THAT is what took my nerve temporarily. I actually thought it would have been easier to fuck her. (Inexperience, I know)

The fear of humiliation is a powerful thing. Once you stop giving a shit, you're golden.

Pulling out your dick, getting hard and stroking it for 15 - 20 minutes in front of your boys (and trading the resulting verbal jabs back and forth) is nothing when you get to that point.




You nailed it perfectly!!! You way get it. That is a porn set. That is the job. You summed it all up in your post. Thank you you:thumbsup

JustDaveXxx 07-18-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 16080564)
But why is he making this thread to tell us about his fantastic technique of finding
new talent? If it works so good shouldn't that be his little secret?

The whole point of the thread is to humiliate people who contact him looking for
a job. Nothing more going on here.


Really?? if you dont like what i post why read it. Yet you keep coming back to post. I know a lot of people on this board and i share a lot of what i deal with as a producer, photographer and director in the adult business. I post what i think is entertaining and humorous.


I go to shows and have drinks with many of these board members. How many shows do you go to in a year? how many people have you met? Everybody at the shows ask me "how is it on set". So i post here and there emails i get. I also share what i deal with as a porn producer because i know people are interested.

If You dont like it or dont want to read it, just hit the Ignore button and you will never have to read anything i post ever again. its that simple. But i bet you will have something cute and snippy to post as a comment demonstrating you are the sad programer with no life with this and 19 other forums as your only form of human interaction. Im not here to fight with you but i see you love to pic for attention.:2 cents:

Slutboat 07-18-2009 11:50 AM

You mentioned bloody make-up sponges - that can cause fatal toxic shock, tell your models to ALWAYS ONLY use boiled sea sponges.

sortie 07-18-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16080726)
Really?? if you dont like what i post why read it. Yet you keep coming back to post. I know a lot of people on this board and i share a lot of what i deal with as a producer, photographer and director in the adult business. I post what i think is entertaining and humorous.


I go to shows and have drinks with many of these board members. How many shows do you go to in a year? how many people have you met? Everybody at the shows ask me "how is it on set". So i post here and there emails i get. I also share what i deal with as a porn producer because i know people are interested.

If You dont like it or dont want to read it, just hit the Ignore button and you will never have to read anything i post ever again. its that simple. But i bet you will have something cute and snippy to post as a comment demonstrating you are the sad programer with no life with this and 19 other forums as your only form of human interaction. Im not here to fight with you but i see you love to pic for attention.:2 cents:

Well, whatever man.

I just saw you in a better light than this thread is casting.
So excuse me for being disappointed enough to post a reply.

JustDaveXxx 07-18-2009 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 16080788)
Well, whatever man.

I just saw you in a better light than this thread is casting.
So excuse me for being disappointed enough to post a reply.



Im not here to fight with you or anybody else for that matter. I actually do enjoy when people disagree with me. It promotes free thought and discussion. But at the end of the day, do you know who this guy is? Did i put up his video up? Nope. No harm no foul.


I got quit a few videos and have never put them up. So where is the harm? I just share my day and experiences with the boards.

WiredGuy 07-18-2009 12:16 PM

Did the guy ever reply with the video?
WG

Drake 07-18-2009 12:21 PM

How many guys do you typically have to go thru to find new male talent that can actually perform (and meets the other criteria of size)?

amacontent 07-18-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 16080788)
Well, whatever man.

I just saw you in a better light than this thread is casting.
So excuse me for being disappointed enough to post a reply.

What better light, WTF, WTF , WTF are you talking about. This is about seeing if a guy can deliver under a little pressure. Not hurting or humiliating anyone. A simple test to see if he can perform. All the cruel shit being done to girls on video these and you complain about this vanilla shit.

amacontent 07-18-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33 (Post 16080862)
How many guys do you typically have to go thru to find new male talent that can actually perform (and meets the other criteria of size)?

Typically we dont go thru guys and waste our time. We let the agents do that and then also word of mouth about a good new guy in the industry also.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 07-18-2009 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16076565)
I am? not questioning your decision to turn him away, I am however pointing out the idiotic way you are going to humiliate a other person just to entertain yourself, without regards to what it does to him.

If you want to be seen as professional, start acting like it.


I dont shoot content, never have and never will. For the simple fact I cant pretend I find them interesting enough to talk to during the breaks, and I have Zero Patience.

And I am sure models in general feel the same about me, and I accept that.

But I dont try and humiliate them for my own entertainment.

Are you always such a faggot?

amacontent 07-18-2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16080942)
Are you always such a faggot?

Give this man a cigar !

fatfoo 07-18-2009 01:03 PM

Why does it have to be a CD case on a coffee table, lol

Porno Dan 07-18-2009 01:20 PM

Dude send all the guys guys my way


I will let them be on Fuck A Fan


If they do a good job for me I will be happy to recommend them to other producers; in fact, I recently had two guys who both did a great job that I recommended to another producer.

SleazyDream 07-18-2009 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16076675)
So your way of auditioning people, are to have them gather 10 of their friends, and jerk it on videotape, and send you that video?


and you wonder why I call some producers unprofessional?

actually- for unproven male talent I honestly think that is a decent respectable professional test.

think about it like this. Male talent gets to fuck what most guys think is the hottest girls around - BAREBACK. and daily.

if you paid a hooker for that, assuming you could GET bareback - those girls on the CHEAP would be $300-$500 each.

SleazyDream 07-18-2009 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 16081026)
Dude send all the guys guys my way


I will let them be on Fuck A Fan


If they do a good job for me I will be happy to recommend them to other producers; in fact, I recently had two guys who both did a great job that I recommended to another producer.

what do you do with the flops?

JustDaveXxx 07-18-2009 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 16081026)
Dude send all the guys guys my way


I will let them be on Fuck A Fan


If they do a good job for me I will be happy to recommend them to other producers; in fact, I recently had two guys who both did a great job that I recommended to another producer.



If they can do it, i would definitely send them to you.:thumbsup

Porno Dan 07-18-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16081032)
what do you do with the flops?


We put them up on the site then stamp fail over them at the end of the scene instead of the pop shot

Porno Dan 07-18-2009 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16081145)
If they can do it, i would definitely send them to you.:thumbsup


I don't care if they can do it, it's the entertainment value that matters.

Wolfy 07-20-2009 06:02 AM

Waiting for the win...

dav3 07-20-2009 06:07 AM

yes, keep us updated plz

Wolfy 07-20-2009 09:58 PM

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, this is BULLSHIT! I'd blame it all on the pussyface clowns like KrisH...

But the reality is things like this are a million to one of ever coming through, just like Dave's "New hot performer" was a million to one odds of not wasting his money.

DAVE! Post that shit if it ever continues, REAL MEN AND WOMEN WANT TO BE ENTERTAINED!!!!!!!!

Wolfy 07-20-2009 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16074671)
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Chivas Boy
To: Just Dave
Date: Jul 8, 2009 11:58 PM
Subject: Hey


I see you also are not down with the bullshit.
Tell me how I can get into bangbros.
I want to be in a movie!

Nick----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Just Dave
To: Chivas Boy
Date: Jul 14, 2009 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: Hey



doesnt work like that. If you cant perform then you cant be in a movie.

Dave
Dave----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Chivas Boy
To: Just Dave
Date: Jul 14, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: Hey


Thats the thing Dave I can perform!!
I have on myspace talk to D Sanchez and he said I would need a agent
Why dont you be my agent??
I have been laid off from my job and have no where else to go.



From: Just Dave,

So you really want to do this right? and you want me to be your agent? And your no gonna waste my time? How do i not know that you are like every other clown that contacts me on myspace? You think you have what it takes to do this? Its way tougher than you think.

If you get 10 of your boys in a well lit up room. Give the 11th a camera. Get but ass naked and start jerking off. You need to stay rock hard hard for 15 minute strait, then on the 16th minute you got 2 minutes to bust your nut onto a CD case on a coffee table.


If you can really do that, you might be able to do this business. Sound strange? keep in mind that porn sets are loaded with crew and they are all watching. Its not the girls job to get you hard, its your job.


Then i need you to send me the tape to prove you can or cant do this or not.

am i gay?? No way, but you are asking me to risk $700 in kill fees for the girl, the crew, the location and the make up artist and i dont get paid for my shoot, because i will have nothing to turn in.

Who do you think pays out the $700 in kills??? The companies i shoot for?? You?? Fuck no!! It comes out of my pocket!


I loose my rate plus $700 because some guy on myspace says he can do it? If you show me, then i will risk the money to try you.


If you can do this or you cant! This will show me which one you are. keep in mind all the viagra and lavitra wont help you. Its all in your head.



Good luck,

Just Dave

Quoted for Classic. :thumbsup

JustDaveXxx 07-20-2009 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfy (Post 16088178)
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, this is BULLSHIT! I'd blame it all on the pussyface clowns like KrisH...

But the reality is things like this are a million to one of ever coming through, just like Dave's "New hot performer" was a million to one odds of not wasting his money.

DAVE! Post that shit if it ever continues, REAL MEN AND WOMEN WANT TO BE ENTERTAINED!!!!!!!!

I got the return emails from this guy and from 3 other guys that contacted me this week.




But Sortie and KrisH think that it is wrong of me to exploit people on this board. I thought it would be fun to share what i deal with on set, but some people on this board think im a bad guy for doing it. If i get enough people that want me to post it, i may. but if its gonna piss people off, i wont.:2 cents:

pentae 07-20-2009 10:46 PM

this would make a brilliant reality tv show

CYF 07-20-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pentae (Post 16088276)
this would make a brilliant reality tv show

hell yeah it would :2 cents:

Ava Knight 07-20-2009 11:01 PM

I want to see the email pleeeease :) Dave, did you know I remember who you are because you had a sweet business card at Phoenix 08? 100% truth.

JustDaveXxx 07-20-2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pentae (Post 16088276)
this would make a brilliant reality tv show

hahahahaha!!! Already getting a reality show treatment and an episode cut as we speak. Got people shopping it next week. Porno Dan is doing Porno Dan stuff in the pilot episode. The Entourage guys are interested in it. :thumbsup

JustDaveXxx 07-20-2009 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pentae (Post 16088276)
this would make a brilliant reality tv show

hahahahaha!!! Already getting a reality show treatment and an episode cut as we speak. Got people shopping it next week. Porno Dan is doing Porno Dan stuff in the pilot episode. The Entourage guys are interested in it. :thumbsup

Iron Fist 07-20-2009 11:22 PM

Waiting for the video :) This will be epic!


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